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small-list Digest Tue, 07 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 025

In This Issue:
Re: Plugs and wires
Re: Plugs and wires
Re: Plugs and wires
Re: Plugs and wires
Re: Plugs and wires
Re: Plugs and wires
Bed liner question
Re: Bed liner question
Re: Bed liner question
Re: Bed liner question
Update.. Re: My turn.. 88 B II with intermittent injectio
Re: Update.. Re: My turn.. 88 B II with
Re: Plugs and wires
Re: Bed liner question
Re: Plugs and wires
Re: Bed liner question
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From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs and wires
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:59:57 -0500

I don't run the SplitFires in any of my vehicles now but in an old
car, 91 Geo Metro LSI, 1.0L/3cyl, manual tranny. I used it for a
comuter car and it was great for that but lacked any power once on the
highway and in high gears. I put the SplitFires in it and it gave me
a boost in HP and a few extra miles per gallon (although gas milage
was not my concern as that car got 50mpg anyway). I ran that car with
those SplitFires for about 30Kmiles before I got rid of it and handed
it to my son who ran it for another 25Kmiles before he got into an
accident and totalled the car. I learned from that accident that
those small cars, while great commuter cars, are not car for me or
mine. My son was mangled in it and has a metal rod in his leg to this
day (that was five years ago). Anyway, At one time the SplitFires did
do something for me.


Take Care and Have a Good Day.
CUL8R, Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam McLaughlin" jps.net>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 12:43 AM
Subject: [small-list] Re: Plugs and wires


> Splitfires are EXPENSIVE junk, to boot. Remember how they dropped
their
> prices last summer? I guess at nearly $10 a plug, no one was buying
into
> them.
>
> Junk, junk, junk. I still stick by Champion Truck plugs.
>
> Adam
>
> David Cooley wrote:
>
> > At 03:14 PM 3/6/2000, you wrote:
> > >I want to change out the plug and wires on my '95 Ranger 4.0.
> > >I am thinking about using the following:
> > >
> > >Magnecor KV85 Competition 8.5mm wires.
> > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/index.htm
> > >
> > >Torque Master plugs.
> > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.torquemaster.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >The truck is stock. Looking for reliability and longevity.
> >
> > Stay away from the torquemasters.
> > Maury, the owner, is a friend of my fathers. He gave me several
sets for
> > different vehicles over the years. Even at no cost, they sucked
and were
> > pulled out within several hundred miles.. They are a scam just
like the
> > Splitfires.
> >
> > ===========================================================
> > David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
> > Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
> > We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
> >


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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:11:31 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Plugs and wires

At 05:59 PM 3/7/00, you wrote:
>I don't run the SplitFires in any of my vehicles now but in an old
>car, 91 Geo Metro LSI, 1.0L/3cyl, manual tranny. I used it for a
>comuter car and it was great for that but lacked any power once on the
>highway and in high gears. I put the SplitFires in it and it gave me
>a boost in HP and a few extra miles per gallon (although gas milage
>was not my concern as that car got 50mpg anyway). I ran that car with
>those SplitFires for about 30Kmiles before I got rid of it and handed
>it to my son who ran it for another 25Kmiles before he got into an
>accident and totalled the car. I learned from that accident that
>those small cars, while great commuter cars, are not car for me or
>mine. My son was mangled in it and has a metal rod in his leg to this
>day (that was five years ago). Anyway, At one time the SplitFires did
>do something for me.

You do realize that the gains you saw would have been seen with a new set
of stock plugs as well.

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David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
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From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs and wires
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:25:12 -0500

Actually, no--not in this case. I took the stock plugs out at
10Kmiles, when the car was still new and put in the SplitFires.

Thank You.
Take Care and Have a Good Day.
CUL8R, Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Cooley" bellsouth.net>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 6:11 PM
Subject: [small-list] Re: Plugs and wires


> At 05:59 PM 3/7/00, you wrote:
> >I don't run the SplitFires in any of my vehicles now but in an old
> >car, 91 Geo Metro LSI, 1.0L/3cyl, manual tranny. I used it for a
> >comuter car and it was great for that but lacked any power once on

the
> >highway and in high gears. I put the SplitFires in it and it gave
me
> >a boost in HP and a few extra miles per gallon (although gas milage
> >was not my concern as that car got 50mpg anyway). I ran that car
with
> >those SplitFires for about 30Kmiles before I got rid of it and
handed
> >it to my son who ran it for another 25Kmiles before he got into an
> >accident and totalled the car. I learned from that accident that
> >those small cars, while great commuter cars, are not car for me or
> >mine. My son was mangled in it and has a metal rod in his leg to
this
> >day (that was five years ago). Anyway, At one time the SplitFires
did
> >do something for me.
>
> You do realize that the gains you saw would have been seen with a
new set
> of stock plugs as well.
>
> ===========================================================
> David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
> Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
> We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
> ===========================================================
>
> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe small-list" in the subject of the
> message.
>
>


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From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs and wires
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:35:58 CST

David,

Sounds as if you've had bad experiences with Splitfires. Care to elaborate?

>You do realize that the gains you saw would have been seen with a new set
>of stock plugs as well.

______________________________________________________


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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:03:40 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Plugs and wires

At 06:25 PM 3/7/00, you wrote:
>Actually, no--not in this case. I took the stock plugs out at
>10Kmiles, when the car was still new and put in the SplitFires.

Dyno tests have shown they have absolutely no gains over new stock plugs.
I guess after spending 30.00 for 3 plugs, I'd see a performance improvement
as well to make myself feel better.

===========================================================
David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
===========================================================


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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:05:25 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Plugs and wires

At 06:35 PM 3/7/00, you wrote:
>David,
>
>Sounds as if you've had bad experiences with Splitfires. Care to elaborate?


Tried them in 4 different vehicles (I'm slow to learn!) only lasted 100
miles before they started to miss and break up in 1 of the vehicles, the
other 3 lasted much longer, but putting in stock plugs when the sh%t fires
went brought me back to the same power levels the sh%t fires did when they
were new.


===========================================================
David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
===========================================================


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From: "Erik Veit" home.com>
Subject: Bed liner question
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:12:58 -0800

Hello,

This is my first post here on the small-list. I have been lurking over on
the 97 and newer list for my '00 Navigator for some time now.

Anyway, I just bought a '00 Ranger (stripped short-bed). I was going to buy
a drop-in liner from my local ford dealer for about $200. I asked for the
over-the-lip kind, but the guy told me that they don't like to sell that
kind because it rubs the paint off the rails of the bed. Also he did not
have that kind in stock. Is he blowing smoke up my skirt, trying to get me
to buy one of his in-stock under-the-lip kind? Or is he telling me the
truth? Is there another brand, perhaps, that does not cause this problem?

Thanks,
Erik

Erik Veit ------- Milpitas, CA ------- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.best.com/~zombie


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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:22:08 -0500
From: Mason Phillips <63nova psouth.net>
Subject: Re: Bed liner question

Get a sray on bedliner or a do it yourself roll on bed liner which is just as
good as spray.

Mason Phillips
84 Ranger 4X4(The Beast)

Erik Veit wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is my first post here on the small-list. I have been lurking over on
> the 97 and newer list for my '00 Navigator for some time now.
>
> Anyway, I just bought a '00 Ranger (stripped short-bed). I was going to buy
> a drop-in liner from my local ford dealer for about $200. I asked for the
> over-the-lip kind, but the guy told me that they don't like to sell that
> kind because it rubs the paint off the rails of the bed. Also he did not
> have that kind in stock. Is he blowing smoke up my skirt, trying to get me
> to buy one of his in-stock under-the-lip kind? Or is he telling me the
> truth? Is there another brand, perhaps, that does not cause this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Erik
>
> Erik Veit ------- Milpitas, CA ------- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.best.com/~zombie
>
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From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:28:55 EST
Subject: Re: Bed liner question

i have my 1999 Ranger for just over six months and i prefer the under the
rail bedliner. I like the slight custom look of the ....

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