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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list small-list); Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:26:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: small-list digest users Reply-to: small-list Subject: small-list Digest V2000 #19 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts Small Chassis Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe small-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ small-list Digest Mon, 28 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 019 In This Issue: Upgrade question Re: More On the Leaky Intake Manifolds TURBO 2.3 Re: Upgrade question Re: TURBO 2.3 Re: Upgrade question Re: TURBO 2.3 Re: Upgrade question Re: Upgrade question Re: TURBO 2.3 Small Alignments Re: [Upgrade question] How to fix dull plastic lenses? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joey Ramsey" Subject: Upgrade question Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:32:47 PST Which would I be better off upgrading to(power wise), a 4b carb and intake, or headers? -Joe ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "mikah vosekuil" Subject: Re: More On the Leaky Intake Manifolds Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:38:00 PST IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FUEL RAIL SCHRADER VALVE. YOU HOOK UP A FUEL PRESSURE GAUGE TO IT TO TEST FOR PROPER FUEL PRESSURE AND FUEL VOLUME. 3M ALSO HAS A FUEL SYSTEM CLEANING KIT THAT HOOKS IN TO THE VALVE. YOU CONNECT A HOSE TO THE VALVE AND TO A PRESSURE REGULATOR THEN TO THE CAN OF CLEANER. THEN YOU DISABLE THE FUEL PUMP AND ATART THE ENGINE. IT RUNS OFF THE CLEANING SOLUTION. ITS A REAL HELPFUL THING TO HAVE, THATS WHY ALMOST ALL VEHICLES HAVE ONE BUILT IN SOMEWHERE. >From: Wesley Murphy >Reply-To: small-list >To: small-list >Subject: [small-list] More On the Leaky Intake Manifolds >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:40:44 -0500 > >I was tightening what I believe to be the intake manifolds today on my 91 >EB >Explorer and noticed something strange. Where the manifold bolts to the >intake, there is a small recess that is not covered on the left side of the >2 inside intakes. One of the small recesses is right beside the fuel rail >cleanout valve (if that's what the little tire valve-looking thing is used >for). Can anyone tell me if this is normal? > >Thanks, >Wesley Murphy > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe small-list" in the body of the >message. > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "mikah vosekuil" Subject: TURBO 2.3 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:42:09 PST i recently bought another 87 ranger with a blown engine. i plan to make this a project vehicle. i have another ranger that is in the process of installing a HO 302. i don't want to do the same with this one though. i was wondering if any one has ever put a turbocharged 2.3 in a ranger, if so how complicated was it? i will have to find a processor from a thunderbird turbo coupe or an early 80's svo mustang. any help or other ideas would be appreciated. ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:13:23 -0800 From: "Jon,Jody" Subject: Re: Upgrade question Joey Ramsey wrote: > Which would I be better off upgrading to(power wise), a 4b carb and intake, > or headers? That's not much to go on, but in most cases, I'd say that headers are a better bet for the money. You may not get quite as much HP, but it will be a LOT cheaper, and probably less hassle to install. Just my .02 Blue coyote ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:18:55 -0800 From: "Jon,Jody" Subject: Re: TURBO 2.3 mikah vosekuil wrote: > i recently bought another 87 ranger with a blown engine. i plan to make > this a project vehicle. i have another ranger that is in the process of > installing a HO 302. i don't want to do the same with this one though. i > was wondering if any one has ever put a turbocharged 2.3 in a ranger, if so > how complicated was it? > i will have to find a processor from a thunderbird turbo coupe or an early > 80's svo mustang. any help or other ideas would be appreciated. > Personally, I dislike the 2.3 (turbo or not). Not trying to start a love/hate thread, just my feeling. Why not go for a 3.8 turbo? Just ramblin' Blue coyote ------------------------------ From: JIMBO01947 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:44:31 EST Subject: Re: Upgrade question In a message dated 02/28/2000 11:35:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, joepr << Which would I be better off upgrading to(power wise), a 4b carb and intake, or headers? -Joe >> Exactly what engine are you talking about? What type of induction system does it have now? What year? etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:47:50 -0500 From: David Cooley Subject: Re: TURBO 2.3 At 01:18 AM 2/29/2000, you wrote: >mikah vosekuil wrote: > > > i recently bought another 87 ranger with a blown engine. i plan to make > > this a project vehicle. i have another ranger that is in the process of > > installing a HO 302. i don't want to do the same with this one though. i > > was wondering if any one has ever put a turbocharged 2.3 in a ranger, if so > > how complicated was it? > > i will have to find a processor from a thunderbird turbo coupe or an early > > 80's svo mustang. any help or other ideas would be appreciated. > > > >Personally, I dislike the 2.3 (turbo or not). Not trying to start a love/hate >thread, just my feeling. Why not go for a 3.8 turbo? Actually, the turbocharged 2.3 is a pretty bullet proof engine. I had a 1985 Buick Grand National, 3.8L Turbo. Bone stock, I got blown away by a slightly massaged 2.3L turbo Tbird. There is one guy running a turbo'd 2.3 in a pinto that is pumping over 400HP into a toploader 4 speed. He's running over 25PSI boost, but has the little pinto deep into the 10 second 1/4 mile bracket. =========================================================== David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT Packet: N5XMT We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated! =========================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:50:26 -0500 From: David Cooley Subject: Re: Upgrade question At 01:13 AM 2/29/2000, you wrote: >Joey Ramsey wrote: > > > Which would I be better off upgrading to(power wise), a 4b carb and intake, > > or headers? > >That's not much to go on, but in most cases, I'd say that headers are a better >bet for the money. You may not get quite as much HP, but it will be a LOT >cheaper, and probably less hassle to install. I agree... Plus, you can't start to improve the intake flow until you improve the exhaust. You can't get more air in if you aren't getting more air out! I just put a set of Motorsports headers on my 5.0L Explorer. BIG difference. Cat back system was already in place. Stock manifolds are junk. Tubular header design, but the tubes are flattened and crimped to make them fit. Motorsports headers are nice smooth, fully round tubes all the way out. =========================================================== David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT Packet: N5XMT We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated! =========================================================== ------------------------------ From: "Joey Ramsey" Subject: Re: Upgrade question Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:15:02 PST Well, its not a Ford thats why I didnt give to much info to start off with. Its my project truck, a 1977 IHC Scout II its a 345 on a t409(727a with IHC's bolt patter). The header's would have to be block hugger's because there isnt much room around the frame, and the starter would be in the way. The 4b I could take straight across on a stock swap. -Joe >From: JIMBO01947 >Reply-To: small-list >To: small-list >Subject: [small-list] Re: Upgrade question >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:44:31 EST > >In a message dated 02/28/2000 11:35:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, >joepr > ><< Which would I be better off upgrading to(power wise), a 4b carb and >intake, > or headers? > -Joe >> >Exactly what engine are you talking about? What type of induction system >does it have now? What year? etc. >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe small-list" in the body of the >message. > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: FordRangerguy Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:04:56 EST Subject: Re: TURBO 2.3 The same guy that has the pinto also has a turbo 2.3 ranger and supposedly it gets 23 mpg in the city and 30 mpg on the highway. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Feb 00 20:46:18 EST From: Tim Turner Subject: Small Alignments Okay; on the subject of alignments for small Fords I leafed through one of our catalogs at work from Specialty Products Company. 91-94 Explorers use the ball joint bushings I was describing, but in '95 the Explorer went to a torsion bar suspension and uses eccentrics to move the A-frame to the desired angle(s). I don't have a price handy for the kit, but the suggested labor was .5 Hr. for the passenger side and .7 for the drivers side. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.specprod.com is the URL for the company; unfortunately the entire product line isn't available yet from the web site, but going to the 'new products' page and looking at the extended range Ford bushings will give a good idea for how the bushing type achieves the desired angle change. The part # for the '95-up Explorer is 87500 FWIW... Sorry for any confusion I may have caused! Tim ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Feb 00 21:04:36 EST From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: [Upgrade question] "Joey Ramsey" > Which would I be better off upgrading to(power wise), a 4b carb and intake, > or headers? What engine, truck and fuel system? If it's a carbureted engine I'd say the intake and 4Bbl assuming your local emission laws permit it. Of course I'd suggest changing the cam and adding the headers at a later date for even more power... The cam (if chosen properly) would probably reap the largest gain IMHO. Tim ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:27:39 -0500 From: Harry Trafford Subject: How to fix dull plastic lenses? The plastic headlight lenses on my '90 B-II are dull and semi-transparent, as if they had been sand blasted. This condition must severely cut down on the brightness of the headlights. The taillight lenses suffer the same affliction. Has anyone actually used a special technique or product to restore the lenses back to their once clear and transparent condition? TIA, Harry S. 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