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small-list Digest Mon, 21 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 013

In This Issue:
Stuck again...
Undercarriage Guards
Re: v6 vs V4
Re: matching paint
Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)
Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)
Re: Stuck again...
97 Explorer Alignment
Re: 97 Explorer Alignment
Matching Paint
Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)
Re: v6 vs V4
Re: 2.8 V-6
Re: Marble Sounds ion 4.0
Rear End Swap
Windshield crack...

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:51:07 -0500
From: J Cope <88biixlt fncool.com>
Subject: Stuck again...

I gone done it again.
My truck is once again spending the night stuck. This seems to be an
annual, albeit unintentional, event. The problem this time is that I'm
basically highsided on a pillar of ice. This wouldn't be a problem if I had
lockers...
So my next major auto investment is going to be differential related. I'd
love to hear any suggestions for what I should look for, differences in
brands and types, and any experiences anyone has had intalling and using
them.
I'm diggin' her out tommorow, and you can bet the pictures will be on my
website.
I'll keep you all posted, and thanks in advance for help with the
differential.

JC
'88 BII XLT
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
K&N
Light bar
Headlight Stone Guards
30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://88biixlt.web.com/
"Bigger tires dig bigger holes"


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:59:04 -0500
From: J Cope <88biixlt fncool.com>
Subject: Undercarriage Guards

Something I noticed while I was jabbing at ice under my truck with a shovel
this evening was that the tie rods and other relatively small pieces of
important parts are in a perfect position to take a heck of a beating on my
88 BII. I was wondering if anyone knew of any companies that make
undercarriage guards, particularly for the front of my truck.
Thanks for any help!

JC
'88 BII XLT
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
K&N
Light bar
Headlight Stone Guards
30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://88biixlt.web.com/


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:30:35 -0500
From: Dwight & Tina Varnes lancnews.infi.net>
Subject: Re: v6 vs V4

The Saab V4 is a shorter version of the German V6, you are correct. It
was used in early Saabs and also was popular as an industrial motor for
forklifts, towmotors, etc. and as a stationary powerplant.

Dwight Varnes

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:48:31 -0500
From: Dwight & Tina Varnes lancnews.infi.net>
Subject: Re: matching paint

There are a lot of factors in dealing with paint, and it gets more
difficult all the time. As mfgrs continue to come out with irridescent,
tri-stage colors that the consumer barely notices but shops need hours
of time to get right it becomes less easy.
Black is normally pretty simple. However, there ARE several blacks out
there that have a tint of color in them, or some metallic. That throws
the 'black is black' theory out the window, I agree.
The person who posted about having a 'blue tint' to one part of their
black car was probably dealing with a tinted black color. Or, there was
a problem with the clearcoat which would have nothing to do with the
color itself. I would have thought the black on a GN was simply black,
but since I don't spend time working on GM cars I don't pretend to be an
expert on memorizing their paint codes.

Also, I don't appreciate smart-aleck listers telling me how I do my job
as regards to 'my only criteria is to save the insurance company money'.
Any time you'd like to try my job for a day my camera and laptop are
ready for you. There are a lot of stupid, untrained, uncaring appraisers
out there (most work for Progressive) but I am not one of them. I take
pride in working with shops to put the car 'right'. Matching the paint
is not really my problem, it is the shop's. I need to pay them only for
reasonable time to perform the paintwork and tinting to match. Some are
really good at it, others are not. Sometimes there is trouble with the
paint. Sometimes our wonderful mfgrs make colors in 6 different shades
and leave it to the shop to figure out which one it is (dealing with
this right now on a Jeep). There is a lot more to this than just pouring
paint out of a can into a gun.

As regards the unibody comment, the structure can take a fair amount of
pulling back and still be sturdy. However, the Mustang is one of the
biggest pieces of crap ever built as a unibody car (and I LIKE Mustangs,
so this isn't personal). More often than not, a Fox chassis Mustang if
hit in the front becomes junk; it simple has no strength in front of the
firewall, particularly in any kind of side hit. The floorpans also like
to tear at the seat mounts, which is why they all have lopsided seats.
When the car came out in 1979 Ford USA didn't exactly have a lot of
years in building unibody cars, so this is what you got. Luckily they've
learned a lot since then.

Rant over, return to playing with trucks.

Dwight Varnes
90 2.3 5 speed 4x2
auto damage appraiser

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From: Bakend aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:08:39 EST
Subject: Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)

In a message dated 2/20/00 6:20:36 PM Mountain Standard Time,
n5xmt bellsouth.net writes:

> Depends on what you look at... If it is light, white is the combination of
> all colors. darkness (Black) is the absence of any color. On an object,
> the color we see is what is not absorbed by the object. therefore a black
> object absorbs all colors and reflects none.
>
Ok now! What colors do you mix together to make white paint? And what colors
to make black?
D Baken

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:22:56 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)

At 10:08 AM 2/21/2000 , you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/20/00 6:20:36 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>n5xmt bellsouth.net writes:
>
> > Depends on what you look at... If it is light, white is the combination of
> > all colors. darkness (Black) is the absence of any color. On an object,
> > the color we see is what is not absorbed by the object. therefore a
> black
> > object absorbs all colors and reflects none.
> >
>Ok now! What colors do you mix together to make white paint? And what colors
>to make black?


Depends on the shade of white. Mostly white pigment (which reflects all
colors and absorbs none) but some have a bit of yellow, blue or red in them
to offset the tone.

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From: "mikah vosekuil" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stuck again...
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:42:59 PST

if your looking for a locker and can afford one i'd say go with an ARB
Airlocker. it's like having two rearends under your truck. with it
disengaged it operates like an open differential, but when it is engaged it
locks the rear end. it locks it, it's not a limmited-slip. it really save
on tires and other components when your driving down the road. you use it
only when you need it so you don't hear the snapping and popping all the
time that automatic lockers do. on ice it works great. i suggest you use
it on ice ONLY when you get stuck. haveing the rearend locked on ice is
harder to control than and open or limmitedslip rearend. the only major
draw abck fir this is the cost. plan on spending over $1200. detroit
lockers are very reliable too.


>From: J Cope <88biixlt fncool.com>
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: Small Trucks Mailing List ford-trucks.com>, Off Road
>Mailing List ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: [small-list] Stuck again...
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:51:07 -0500
>
>I gone done it again.
>My truck is once again spending the night stuck. This seems to be an
>annual, albeit unintentional, event. The problem this time is that I'm
>basically highsided on a pillar of ice. This wouldn't be a problem if I
>had
>lockers...
>So my next major auto investment is going to be differential related. I'd
>love to hear any suggestions for what I should look for, differences in
>brands and types, and any experiences anyone has had intalling and using
>them.
>I'm diggin' her out tommorow, and you can bet the pictures will be on my
>website.
>I'll keep you all posted, and thanks in advance for help with the
>differential.
>
>JC
>'88 BII XLT
>10k tow hooks
>40ch CB
>K&N
>Light bar
>Headlight Stone Guards
>30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://88biixlt.web.com/
>"Bigger tires dig bigger holes"
>
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From: "Bobby Herring" earthlink.net>
Subject: 97 Explorer Alignment
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:18:07 -0600

I have a 97 Explorer. It has never been aligned. When I took it in, the
mechanic said I needed to buy a "Camber adjustment kit" before he could
adjust the camber. I called Autozone and some others and they have never
heard of it. It only consists of 4 washers with round corners instead of
square corners.
Is this a dealer only part?
Thanks, Bob Herring


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:30:31 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: 97 Explorer Alignment

At 12:18 PM 2/21/2000 , you wrote:
>I have a 97 Explorer. It has never been aligned. When I took it in, the
>mechanic said I needed to buy a "Camber adjustment kit" before he could
>adjust the camber. I called Autozone and some others and they have never
>heard of it. It only consists of 4 washers with round corners instead of
>square corners.
>Is this a dealer only part?


That is definitely a dealer only item... A little over $100 for the
kit. installing it with an alignment (If the front end shop buys the kit)
will run near $250.00
Had to have one on my 97.
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From: JaWise aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:19:09 EST
Subject: Matching Paint

In a message dated 2/21/2000 01:07:12 Central Standard Time,
listar ford-trucks.com writes:

<< Black is black. Unless it has metallic in it there is no 'matching'
required, since it is the abscence of any color. >>

That absence of any color is caused by what colors the paint absorbs.
Different mixes of paint are going to absorb different colors. If the paint
was perfectly black it would reflect ABSOLUTELY no light.

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:18:04 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)

At 10:08 AM 2/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/20/00 6:20:36 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>n5xmtbellsouth.net writes:
>
> > Depends on what you look at... If it is light, white is the combination of
> > all colors. darkness (Black) is the absence of any color. On an object,
> > the color we see is what is not absorbed by the object. therefore a black
> > object absorbs all colors and reflects none.
> >
>Ok now! What colors do you mix together to make white paint? And what colors
>to make black?
>D Baken

I've never heard of a prism breaking up black into the
primary colors, but it will break up white light into
the primaries. Take a look at your monitor, when a pixel
is black, what colors are on? None of them! When a
pixel is white.... ALL OF THEM.

When you turn off the light switch, are you saying that
the room is suddenly flooded with all colors? Or is
there an absence of all colors?

Don't let pigmentation of reflected light hide the
physics. :-)

Ken




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From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: v6 vs V4
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:23:08 CST

Dwight,
That's why I asked. My dad has been having a heck of a time trying to
find parts to re-build his Ford skid steer loader, which used the V-4 in the
late 1970's. I have done a bit of web surfing, and some sites seem to
indicate that the 2-liter in-line four cylinder uses the same pistons, etc.
Do you happen to know where I could find specifications for interior engine
parts to determine which parts may interchange?


>
>The Saab V4 is a shorter version of the German V6, you are correct. It
>was used in early Saabs and also was popular as an industrial motor for
>forklifts, towmotors, etc. and as a stationary powerplant.
>
>
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From: "Jim Bielecki" freeway.net>
Subject: Re: 2.8 V-6
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:30:13 -0500


> Do you know whether this 2.8 V-6 is related Dimensionally (bore, stroke,
> etc.) to the V-4 which was formerly used in the Taunus and the Saab?
>
>
> >The 2.8 was the next generation of the German Ford V-6 which started
> >life as a 2.6 in the Capri (and for those who know their obscure Fords
> >the German Taunus).

This was discussed a few years back on this list. The "Cologne" V-6
actually started life as a 2.3 and was the parent platform for the V-4 model
that was available in the Taunus. I'm not sure if it was available in a
Saab, but I do know that this V-4 was available in certain ski groomers that
were sold in Canada and the U.S. back in the 1970's. It soldiers on today
as the 4.0 V-6 that's standard in the Explorer.

Jim Bielecki




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From: "William Hickey" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Marble Sounds ion 4.0
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:27:54 PST

Hi,
I have been searching for info that was originaly posted on this board many
months ago.. It had to do with marble type sounds coming from 99 Ranger 4.0
engines. I have a 99 ranger SC 4x4 with the 4.0 engine in it. At the time
this info was posted, I did and still have a intermitent light knocking
sound but I originaly attributed it to the small catalitic converter on the
drivers side. The truck has 27K on it now and the sound has not gotten
worse but I am starting to think that perhaps I should take it to the dealer
before the warrenty runs out. I did find TB SB608880 but would like more
info on it. Can someone who has experienced the problem please explain it
further for me. From what I remember, I thought it had to do with the pins
in the pistons (???).
TIA
Bill



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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:57:00 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: Rear End Swap

I know that someone, somewhere and now on either of these lists knows
what I am talking about.

I would like to swap in a 4.10 gear ratio 8.8" rear end from a Ranger to
my 1988 bronco II. Which year rear end works best?

And, what will I have to change to make this work? Can I carry over my
brake components, lines, pads, etc?

I have never tried this before and I would like all of the information
that I can get.

Adam


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:43:27 -0800
From: "Tom Watson" johana.com>
Subject: Windshield crack...

Oh, well...
It happened. I got a crack in my windshield. It started at the top of
the windshield, and has made a dogleg to the right. I will get it
replaced, but a question is who pays for this??

Is it a defect in the windshield (it doesn't appear to be from a rock, as
it started at the edge)?? Or is it something else??

If it IS a defect in the windshield then (hopefully) it is covered by
warrenty (I don't have 36k miles yet!!).

If not, I call the insurance company and write a check for my deductable
on the comprehensive coverage. Thankfully there is no accident involved.

My questions to the list are what makes windshields crack??

p.s. The rate of the cracks progress across the windshield is very
interesting. Slow at times, and faster at others.
--
Tom Watson Generic short signature
tswjohana.com (I'm at home now)

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