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small-list Digest Mon, 21 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 013

In This Issue:
Stuck again...
Undercarriage Guards
Re: v6 vs V4
Re: matching paint
Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)
Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)
Re: Stuck again...
97 Explorer Alignment
Re: 97 Explorer Alignment
Matching Paint
Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)
Re: v6 vs V4
Re: 2.8 V-6
Re: Marble Sounds ion 4.0
Rear End Swap
Windshield crack...

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:51:07 -0500
From: J Cope <88biixlt fncool.com>
Subject: Stuck again...

I gone done it again.
My truck is once again spending the night stuck. This seems to be an
annual, albeit unintentional, event. The problem this time is that I'm
basically highsided on a pillar of ice. This wouldn't be a problem if I had
lockers...
So my next major auto investment is going to be differential related. I'd
love to hear any suggestions for what I should look for, differences in
brands and types, and any experiences anyone has had intalling and using
them.
I'm diggin' her out tommorow, and you can bet the pictures will be on my
website.
I'll keep you all posted, and thanks in advance for help with the
differential.

JC
'88 BII XLT
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
K&N
> Light bar
Headlight Stone Guards
30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://88biixlt.web.com/
"Bigger
tires dig bigger holes"


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:59:04 -0500
From: J Cope <88biixlt fncool.com>
Subject: Undercarriage Guards

Something I noticed while I was jabbing at ice under my truck with a shovel
this evening was that the tie rods and other relatively small pieces of
important parts are in a perfect position to take a heck of a beating on my
88 BII. I was wondering if anyone knew of any companies that make
undercarriage guards, particularly for the front of my truck.
Thanks for any help!

JC
'88 BII XLT
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
K&N
> Light bar
Headlight Stone Guards
30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://88biixlt.web.com/


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:30:35 -0500
From: Dwight & Tina Varnes lancnews.infi.net>
Subject: Re: v6 vs V4

The Saab V4 is a shorter version of the German V6, you are correct. It
was used in early Saabs and also was popular as an industrial motor for
forklifts, towmotors, etc. and as a stationary powerplant.

Dwight Varnes

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:48:31 -0500
From: Dwight & Tina Varnes lancnews.infi.net>
Subject: Re: matching paint

There are a lot of factors in dealing with paint, and it gets more
difficult all the time. As mfgrs continue to come out with irridescent,
tri-stage colors that the consumer barely notices but shops need hours
of time to get right it becomes less easy.
Black is normally pretty simple. However, there ARE several blacks out
there that have a tint of color in them, or some metallic. That throws
the 'black is black' theory out the window, I agree.
The person who posted about having a 'blue tint' to one
part of their
black car was probably dealing with a tinted black color. Or, there was
a problem with the clearcoat which would have nothing to do with the
color itself. I would have thought the black on a GN was simply black,

but since I don't spend time working on GM cars I don't pretend to be an
expert on memorizing their paint codes.

Also, I don't appreciate smart-aleck listers telling me how I do my job
as regards to 'my only criteria is to save the insurance company money'.
Any time you'd like to try my job for a day my camera and laptop are
ready for you. There are a lot of stupid, untrained, uncaring appraisers
out there (most work for Progressive) but I am not one of them. I take
pride in working with shops to put the car 'right'. Matching the paint
is not really my problem, it is the shop's. I need to pay them only for
reasonable time to perform the paintwork and tinting to match. Some are
really good at it, others are not. Sometimes there is trouble with the
paint. Sometimes our wonderful mfgrs make colors in 6 different shades
and leave it to the shop to figure out which one it is (dealing with
this right now on a Jeep). There is a lot more to this than just pouring
paint out of a can into a gun.

As regards the unibody comment, the structure can take a fair amount of
pulling back and still be sturdy. However, the Mustang is one of the
biggest pieces of crap ever built as a unibody car (and I LIKE Mustangs,
so this isn't personal). More often than not, a Fox chassis Mustang if
hit in the front becomes junk; it simple has no strength in front of the
firewall, particularly in any kind of side hit. The floorpans also like
to tear at the seat mounts, which is why they all have lopsided seats.
When the car came out in 1979 Ford USA didn't exactly have a lot of
years in building unibody cars, so this is what you got. Luckily they've
learned a lot since then.

Rant over, return to playing with trucks.

Dwight Varnes
90 2.3 5 speed 4x2
auto damage appraiser

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From: Bakend aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:08:39 EST
Subject: Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)

In a message dated 2/20/00 6:20:36 PM Mountain Standard Time,
n5xmt bellsouth.net writes:

> Depends on what you look at... If it is light, white is the combination of
> all colors. darkness (Black) is the absence of any color. On an object,
> the color we see is what is not absorbed by the object. therefore a black
> object absorbs all colors and reflects none.
>
Ok now! What colors do you mix together to make white paint? And what colors
to make black?
D Baken

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:22:56 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Matching paint (was litigious society)

At 10:08 AM 2/21/2000 , you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/20/00 6:20:36 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>n5xmt bellsouth.net writes:
>
> > Depends on what you look at... If it is light, white is the combination of
> > all colors. darkness (Black) is the absence of any color. On an object,
> > the color we see is what is not absorbed by the object. therefore a
> black
> > object absorbs all colors and reflects none.
> >
>Ok now! What colors do you mix together to make white paint? And what colors
>to make black?


Depends on the shade of white. Mostly white pigment (which reflects all
colors and absorbs none) but some have a bit of yellow, blue or red in them
to offset the tone.

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From: "mikah vosekuil" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stuck again...
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:42:59 PST

if your looking for a locker and can afford one i'd say go with an ARB
Airlocker. it's like having two rearends under your truck. with it
disengaged it operates like an open differential, but when it is engaged it
locks the rear end. it locks it, it's not a limmited-slip. it really save
on tires and other components when your driving down the road. you use it
only when you need it so you don't hear the snapping and popping all the
time that automatic lockers do. on ice it works great. i suggest you use
it on ice ONLY when you get stuck. haveing the rearend locked on ice is
harder to control than and open or limmitedslip rearend. the only major
draw abck fir this is the cost. plan on spending over $1200. detroit
lockers are very reliable too.


>From: J Cope <88biixlt ....


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