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In This Issue:
Re: ethnic slurs
Re: Disaster!
Re: ethnic slurs
Re: The litigousness of the american
Re: ethnic slurs
Re: Disaster!
Re: slurs
Re: slurs
ADMIN: ONE MORE TIME.... Please trim the footers
Re: Disaster!
Re: [Disaster!]
1974 V6 Ford engine 2.8L
Re: 1974 V6 Ford engine 2.8L
Re: ethnic slurs
Blivet vs. Ginch
Re: [1974 V6 Ford engine 2.8L]
Re: ethnic slurs
Re: Starter motor
Re: The litigousness of the american
Re: Please trim the footers
Re: starter motor
Re: ethnic slurs
Re: ethnic slurs
Re: ethnic slurs
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From: "Mike Fisher" gte.net>
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:00:30 -0600

Personally, I don't normally use the term Jap either. I do, however believe
that there is just as much racial prejudice on the Japanese side as there is
on ours. I have plenty of friends (not all of whom are white) who have
worked for numerous Japanese electronics manufacturers here in Dallas who
say that the only people who get promoted are the Japanese.

The Japanese tried to screw us during WWII, and they're still doing it to
this day, but Americans are stupid to realize it. When we run $4-$5 billion
deficits with Japan EVERY month, that should tell us something. Our country
is as competitive in manufacturing as any other country in the world, but
some of them (Japan being a perfect example) won't open their markets to
American products. Of course, even if they did, the people in some of those
countries realize the value of purchasing domestic goods, and would continue
to do so anyway. We, on the other hand, believe in buying whatever suits our
needs. Did anyone on this list know that nine of the ten largest banks in
the world are in Japan? They didn't get that way by using fair trade
practices.

Had our country been like any other on the planet (especially Japan), after
WWII we would have made Japa the 49th state, and Germany the 50th. But NO,
we're nice guys and let both of them crap on us ever since.

Now you guys that insist on buying Japanese products go right ahead and buy
them. You can use the excuse that they are ASSEMBLED in the US, but they
have MUCH larger foreign content than do American branded vehicles.

BTW, using the term Asian is just as demeaning as anything else, because
this is like saying that Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Malaysian, Indonesian,
Vietnamese, Laotian, Singaporean, etc. are all the same anyway, so let's not
make the distinction.

Mike Fisher
'97 AWD Mountaineer
K&N/Borla/31x10.5 BFG ATs/PIAA/Edelbrock IAS

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 5:59 AM
Subject: [small-list] Re: ethnic slurs


> Regarding the term "Jap"...
>
> I got caught on this one also. As a very post-WW II child, I grew up
> honestly thinking Jap was simply short for Japanese...maybe not the
> nicest way to say it, but didn't really connect it to being a slur.
>
> Well, I got blasted by a guy who is married to a Japanese woman who told
> me in no uncertain terms this was NOT the case.
>
> I think a lot of us yung-uns simply don't know any better, and don't
> really mean anything by using the term, but I have since removed it from
> my vocabulary. I just call them Asian cars now.
>
> Dwight Varnes
> 90 4x2 2.3 'S'
> Bunch of other cars, most run
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:03:49 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Disaster!

At 04:53 PM 2/18/00 -0800, you wrote:

>How come someone who doesn't have insurance can rear end me, and drive
>home? I think the policeman should take her car away. I thought that
>driving without insurance was against the law, but I guess not.


Well,
I used to Live in California. It is definitely a misdemeanor offense to
drive without insurance, but the most an officer can do is issue a citation
and let the court and DMV take further action against the offender. Your
first line of defense should be getting 2 copies of the police report and
keep one for yourself, and give the 2nd one to your insurance agent. MAKE
SURE they issued her a citation. If they didn't, follow up with the
officers superiors and the traffic investigative division of the department
that was involved. Stay calm and don't make any rash statements to them,
stick with the facts. In California, she has 2 strikes against her...
first, she rear-ended you, 2 she had no insurance.
Good luck.


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Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:06:30 -0500
From: Mason Phillips <63nova psouth.net>
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

Is this thread ever going to die??

Mason Phillips
87 Ranger(built with Mazda parts but its still my beast)




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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:18:47 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: The litigousness of the american

Adam,
Don't feel bad for calling the cops.
I was in my 1985 Buick Grand National and was minding my own business at
45MPH. Suddenly, there is a huge "CRUNCH" and I'm thrown to the right,
then another crunch followed by a third.
Some 14 year old JERK with his girlfriend's face in his lap (you get the
picture) driving his Mothers F350 pickup with Limo tinted front side
windows, tried to make a right turn from the left lane THRU ME 3 times
before he realized there was a problem. We finally stopped, he get's out
still pulling up his zipper, beggs me not to call the cops. I agreed IF
his mother paid for the damage to my freshly painted black GN. His mom
shows up and is very thankful I didn't call the cops, a few tears stream
down her cheeks and she hugs me in thanks. She sent the brat for a gallon
of milk 2 hours before and he hadn't returned yet, nor was his girlfriend
with him when he left the house. She tells me to get some estimates and
come by her office the next day to talk. I get 5 estimates from a
dealership to a little tiny hole in the wall shop to show the range of
prices. She looks them all over and starts yelling at me that they are
outrageous and that she will not pay me a dime. I pay a visit to the
Police department, they laugh at me... Since the vehicles were moved, they
cannot do anything. I call every insurance agent in town, they all know
her by name, but have cancelled her due to excessive accidents (seems she
lets her underaged, unlicensed kids drive all the time). Finally tuck my
tail between my legs and head to my insurance agents office. I give him
all the info and he recognizes her name... He currently holds a policy on
the vehicle involved. He cuts me a check for the repairs, and calls her to
inform her that she is cancelled at the end of 30 days.
I got lucky but could have been royally screwed by trying to be nice and
feel sorry for someone.
Highest estimate was 9000, lowest was 3000 Took it to a middle of the road
shop with my check for 5500 and had them replace the Drivers front fender,
grille, hood, drivers door, and cut and replace the rear quarter panel on
the drivers side and the trunk lid. Also fresh paint all around because
you can't really match black.



At 10:16 PM 2/18/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Tony,
>
>What a story. I would be extremely agravated that he sued you, and your
>company
>decided to settle. That would... words escape me. Consider changing insurance
>companies?
>
>I am with USAA insurance under mom and dad's insurance plan.
>
>The girl who hit me did sound familiar. I looked her up in an old high school
>year book, and we went to school together back in high school. Oh great.
>
>The thing that really troubled me, was that she was pregnant. I felt, and feel
>guilty for calling the police on her. Her crying didn't exactly make me
>feel any
>better. That and I knew her from way back when, her friends are the people
>whom
>I bank with, etc. However,
>
>I do think that if I didn't, then I would be up the creek for a lawsuit
>regarding her baby or her personal injuries. Somehow, my been stopped at a red
>light and her driving into the rear bumper of my car WHILE I WAS PERFECTLY
>STILL
>would be seen as me somehow hurting her or her child. As you well know,
>and as I
>may know pretty soon that the litigousness of Americans is astounding.

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Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:29:26 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

At 11:06 AM 2/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Is this thread ever going to die??

Yes, it will. Its off-topic.


>Mason Phillips
>87 Ranger(built with Mazda parts but its still my beast)

Errr.... Mazda is owned by Ford. Last time I was at
Ford's World Headquarters, they had Mazda emblems on
the wall and Mazda sports cars on show in the halls.

Ken Payne




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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:29:02 -0700
From: Bill Funk uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Disaster!

Sorry to hear about your experience, and I'm glad the damage was minimal.
As for why the young lady was allowed to drive home, here's an explanation...
Not everyone who does somethiong wrong is put in jail. Nor, as in this case, is the vehicle always impounded (here in AZ, impoundment for driving uninsured is an option, but rarely done).
Also, in this cae, the officer was probably loathe to actually treat a 19-year-old pregnant girl with the harshness you wanted to apply. She may not even have to go to court (in AZ, if you immediately get insurance, that charge is usually dropped). You suffered no actual damage, and she will need to fix her own car. She will be (or was) issued a citation for vehicle not under control, which won't be dropped; the points will be with her for several years.
With more years under your belt, you will see that you suffered no actual damage (the outrage, though, will affect you for a while), and she will indeed have to pay for her deed.
Lightening up a little won't hurt. Be thankful no one was injured. Everything else can be taken care of with money. That's why God invented it! :-)
Bill

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

>
> From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
> Subject: Disaster!
>
> I just put on a new electric flex a lite fan on my 1988 Bronco II this
> afternoon. I am removing the mechanical fan clutch and installing an
> electric fan because the body lift moves the stock fan out of alignment
> of the radiator. Thus making it work hotter than I would like.
>
> As soon as I had done this, I drove down to the car wash to see how
> water resistant the new fan's electronics would be. On my way down
> there, disaster struck!
>
> I was at a red light. There was one car ahead of me, and no one behind
> me. As the light turned green, the car ahead of me hesitated, so I sat
> there patiently waiting for them to go. As I did, I felt a sharp whap! I
> initially thought that I had popped the clutch, until I realized that I
> was slowly rolling forward. I stopped, and looked around.
>
> >From out of no-where, there was a green 1999 Honda Civic right behind
> me, almost underneath me. There was plastic everywhere, green antifreeze
> on the ground, light bulb shards, and a hood bent up almost in half. At
> the wheel was a crying, pregnant nineteen year old girl.
>
> We pulled into the gas station next to the intersection where we
> surveyed the damage. Her Radiator was broken, lights shattered, hood
> bent up in half and her bumper was back in the street. That's when she
> told me that she had no insurance.
>
> Nineteen years old, pregnant, 1999 Honda Civic, and no insurance.
>
> So, I call the police, he comes and we file a report. While I was
> waiting for him, I called my insurance company, and begin to file a
> report there. Since I was waiting for a hit and run, I got her license,
> make, model and the VIn number of her car.
>
> I inspect the bronco. Her rear double bar bumper is fine, except for
> some green paint. The black paint isn't even scratched off! There is a
> line through my JBA Racing sticker and also through my MSD Ignition
> sticker, but other than that she's alright. (Or so far as I can say)
>
> I wonder how that would have been different had my car not been lifted.
> I am using a james duff 3" suspension lift on top of 31" BFG 31x10.50 x
> 5 tires and a 2" body lift.
>
> After teh accident, the policeman gave me my information and told me to
> take off. I went down to the car wash and washed down teh radiator in my
> car. On teh way back, I see her driving down the same road as I am, hood
> steaming and sputtering.
>
> How come someone can hit me, without insurance and drive home from it?
>
> I am a 20 year old driver with three years experience, a flawless
> record, good student discount, multiple car discount, professional
> driving discount and california good driver discount. I pay $200 a month
> for full coverage, less $500 deductable on my 1988 bronco. This is a
> heck of a lot of money for someone like me who is so young. What exactly
> am I paying for?
>
> How come someone who doesn't have insurance can rear end me, and drive
> home? I think the policeman should take her car away. I thought that
> driving without insurance was against the law, but I guess not.
>
> Why does this happen?
>
> I was pleased that the bronco *appears* undamaged, apart from my stiff
> neck. Her Jap car is truly messed up right now. Long live the ford
> bronco! Her grill is gone, her radiator shot, no headlights and no
> bumper.
>
> This is more fuel to the fire of "jap crap".. Maybe I'm just really mad
> and I have a headache and neckache.
>
> What's wrong with the state of california that allows uninsured
> motorists to wreck into INSURED motorists, and then drive home?
>
> Is anyone else screaming "What's going on here?"
>
> Adam

=================================================



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From: Ledski aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:36:25 EST
Subject: Re: slurs

Bravo Tim,
Something people should have learned in kindergarten comes to mind "Sticks
and stones can break my bones but words cannot harm me"
People should be tolerant of others (they don't have to agree). After all, I
don't smack people down for saying anything bad about my Ford. That would be
the greatest sin would it not?

another Tim (ohio)
94 Ford Explorer (eddie)
wishing for a F350 extended cab dually 4x4 Powerstroke diesel (ar ar ar) to
camp and tow my boat with (FourWinns w/ Ford(?) 5.0 efi)

In a message dated 2/19/2000 10:19:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
listar ford-trucks.com writes:

<< I've owned vehicles in most of these catagories and have enjoyed then all;
let's not let a nick-name become *too* much of a racial thing


Tim >>

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From: "Joe Merchak" eclipse.net>
Subject: Re: slurs
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:41:58 -0500

Tim

I agree, the problem with people today is that they are too sensitive and
everything has to be politically correct. People have to learn that you not
going to agree what everyone has to say. Last time I looked, this was still
a free country.

-----Original Message-----
From: small-list-bounceford-trucks.com
[mailto:small-list-bounceford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Ledskiaol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 11:36 AM
To: small-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [small-list] Re: slurs


Bravo Tim,
Something people should have learned in kindergarten comes to mind "Sticks
and stones can break my bones but words cannot harm me"
People should be tolerant of others (they don't have to agree). After all, I
don't smack people down for saying anything bad about my Ford. That would be
the greatest sin would it not?

another Tim (ohio)
94 Ford Explorer (eddie)
wishing for a F350 extended cab dually 4x4 Powerstroke diesel (ar ar ar) to
camp and tow my boat with (FourWinns w/ Ford(?) 5.0 efi)

In a message dated 2/19/2000 10:19:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
listarford-trucks.com writes:

<< I've owned vehicles in most of these catagories and have enjoyed then
all;
let's not let a nick-name become *too* much of a racial thing


Tim >>
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:58:31 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: ONE MORE TIME.... Please trim the footers

I asked everyone last week to trim the unsubscribe footer
from posts when replying. The bottom of the last email
illustrates exactly why. Please trim the footers (hint:
there is a "no-post" subscribe setting!).

Also, lets get back on topic. No more getting the last
word in on the ethic thread.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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From: "Joe Merchak" eclipse.net>
Subject: Re: Disaster!
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:57:44 -0500

I live in NJ and this is why we pay the highest insurance in the country
because of people like that girl. Adam, I am with you, she should of at
least had her car towed and should of lost her license right on the spot.
What Bill does not point out is she did not only endangered you or herself
but her unborn child.

I was rear end by the same type of person. My 93 Ranger was hit by this
lady with her kids in the car while I sat at a light. I called the cops
(she did not want me too) and they asked me why I did since my bumper was
only scratched (here cars front end was wiped out), well after calling her
insurance company because I wanted my bumper replaced, I found out she gave
false records because the insurance company had dropped her. I had to go
through a big deal to get my truck fixed, but in the end she went to jail
for false documents and lack of insurance and the cop was suspended 2 days
for not following up and the truck got fixed.

So if you are still mad or you want to see something done about her, there
is stuff you can do.

Good luck and sorry to hear about your truck.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: small-list-bounceford-trucks.com
[mailto:small-list-bounceford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Bill Funk
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 11:29 AM
To: small-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [small-list] Re: Disaster!


Sorry to hear about your experience, and I'm glad the damage was minimal.
As for why the young lady was allowed to drive home, here's an
explanation...
Not everyone who does somethiong wrong is put in jail. Nor, as in this case,
is the vehicle always impounded (here in AZ, impoundment for driving
uninsured is an option, but rarely done).
Also, in this cae, the officer was probably loathe to actually treat a
19-year-old pregnant girl with the harshness you wanted to apply. She may
not even have to go to court (in AZ, if you immediately get insurance, that
charge is usually dropped). You suffered no actual damage, and she will need
to fix her own car. She will be (or was) issued a citation for vehicle not
under control, which won't be dropped; the points will be with her for
several years.
With more years under your belt, you will see that you suffered no actual
damage (the outrage, though, will affect you for a while), and she will
indeed have to pay for her deed.
Lightening up a little won't hurt. Be thankful no one was injured.
Everything else can be taken care of with money. That's why God invented it!
:-)
Bill

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

>
> From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
> Subject: Disaster!
>
> I just put on a new electric flex a lite fan on my 1988 Bronco II this
> afternoon. I am removing the mechanical fan clutch and installing an
> electric fan because the body lift moves the stock fan out of alignment
> of the radiator. Thus making it work hotter than I would like.
>
> As soon as I had done this, I drove down to the car wash to see how
> water resistant the new fan's electronics would be. On my way down
> there, disaster struck!
>
> I was at a red light. There was one car ahead of me, and no one behind
> me. As the light turned green, the car ahead of me hesitated, so I sat
> there patiently waiting for them to go. As I did, I felt a sharp whap! I
> initially thought that I had popped the clutch, until I realized that I
> was slowly rolling forward. I stopped, and looked around.
>
> >From out of no-where, there was a green 1999 Honda Civic right behind
> me, almost underneath me. There was plastic everywhere, green antifreeze
> on the ground, light bulb shards, and a hood bent up almost in half. At
> the wheel was a crying, pregnant nineteen year old girl.
>
> We pulled into the gas station next to the intersection where we
> surveyed the damage. Her Radiator was broken, lights shattered, hood
> bent up in half and her bumper was back in the street. That's when she
> told me that she had no insurance.
>
> Nineteen years old, pregnant, 1999 Honda Civic, and no insurance.
>
> So, I call the police, he comes and we file a report. While I was
> waiting for him, I called my insurance company, and begin to file a
> report there. Since I was waiting for a hit and run, I got her license,
> make, model and the VIn number of her car.
>
> I inspect the bronco. Her rear double bar bumper is fine, except for
> some green paint. The black paint isn't even scratched off! There is a
> line through my JBA Racing sticker and also through my MSD Ignition
> sticker, but other than that she's alright. (Or so far as I can say)
>
> I wonder how that would have been different had my car not been lifted.
> I am using a james duff 3" suspension lift on top of 31" BFG 31x10.50 x
> 5 tires and a 2" body lift.
>
> After teh accident, the policeman gave me my information and told me to
> take off. I went down to the car wash and washed down teh radiator in my
> car. On teh way back, I see her driving down the same road as I am, hood
> steaming and sputtering.
>
> How come someone can hit me, without insurance and drive home from it?
>
> I am a 20 year old driver with three years experience, a flawless
> record, good student discount, multiple car discount, professional
> driving discount and california good driver discount. I pay $200 a month
> for full coverage, less $500 deductable on my 1988 bronco. This is a
> heck of a lot of money for someone like me who is so young. What exactly
> am I paying for?
>
> How come someone who doesn't have insurance can rear end me, and drive
> home? I think the policeman should take her car away. I thought that
> driving without insurance was against the law, but I guess not.
>
> Why does this happen?
>
> I was pleased that the bronco *appears* undamaged, apart from my stiff
> neck. Her Jap car is truly messed up right now. Long live the ford
> bronco! Her grill is gone, her radiator shot, no headlights and no
> bumper.
>
> This is more fuel to the fire of "jap crap".. Maybe I'm just really mad
> and I have a headache and neckache.
>
> What's wrong with the state of california that allows uninsured
> motorists to wreck into INSURED motorists, and then drive home?
>
> Is anyone else screaming "What's going on here?"
>
> Adam

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From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: [Disaster!]
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:03:34 -0500

In Virginia you either have to have insurance or you pay the state
$400 each year and you can drive without insurance. That is why the
state requires insurance companies to give us Uninsured Motorists
coverage. My son was hit a few years back and still has a metal rod
in his leg from the accident. The guy that hit him had no insurance,
driving on a suspended license, was speeding (doing 55 in 45 zone) and
ran a red light to boot (hence my son getting hit in the intersection
when the guy ran the red light). The cop said that guy would be
locked up and the key thrown away! Yea, the day in court and this guy
has a lawyer that gets him off with a $300 fine and--get this--the
judge even give him a temp license to drive home the vehicle he drove
to court (still on a suspended license). Go figure!
Thank You.
Take Care and Have a Good Day.
CUL8R, Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Turner" netscape.net>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 12:48 AM
Subject: [small-list] Re: [Disaster!]


> Adam McLaughlin jps.net> wrote:
>
> > As soon as I had done this, I drove down to the car wash to see
how
> > water resistant the new fan's electronics would be. On my way down
> > there, disaster struck!
> >
> > I was at a red light. There was one car ahead of me, and no one
behind
> > me. As the light turned green, the car ahead of me hesitated, so I
sat
> > there patiently waiting for them to go. As I did, I felt a sharp
whap! I
> > initially thought that I had popped the clutch, until I realized
that I
> > was slowly rolling forward. I stopped, and looked around.
>
> Stupid, stupid driver.. had somebody punt my '57 Ch*&^% truck into
an
> intersection that way.
>
> >
> > From out of no-where, there was a green 1999 Honda Civic right
behind
> > me, almost underneath me. There was plastic everywhere, green
antifreeze
> > on the ground, light bulb shards, and a hood bent up almost in
half. At
> > the wheel was a crying, pregnant nineteen year old girl.
>
> Hate it for her.. seems she's made a few bad decisions in her
short life.
>
> >
> > We pulled into the gas station next to the intersection where we
> > surveyed the damage. Her Radiator was broken, lights shattered,
hood
> > bent up in half and her bumper was back in the street. That's when
she
> > told me that she had no insurance.
>
> Was it registered in NC? If not the laws could be funky
>
> >
> > Nineteen years old, pregnant, 1999 Honda Civic, and no insurance.
>
> Hmm.. one would think if you could afford a '99 insurance would be
OK also.
>
> >
> > So, I call the police, he comes and we file a report. While I was
> > waiting for him, I called my insurance company, and begin to file
a
> > report there. Since I was waiting for a hit and run, I got her
license,
> > make, model and the VIn number of her car.
>
> Good for you! Amazing how many people dont get that information and
are
> stuck. :-(
>
> > After teh accident, the policeman gave me my information and told
me to
> > take off. I went down to the car wash and washed down teh radiator
in my
> > car. On teh way back, I see her driving down the same road as I
am, hood
> > steaming and sputtering.
>
> And ruining her engine..
>
> >
> > How come someone can hit me, without insurance and drive home from
it?
>
> Possibly from a state that doesn't reqire insurance?
>
> >
> > I am a 20 year old driver with three years experience, a flawless
> > record, good student discount, multiple car discount, professional
> > driving discount and california good driver discount. I pay $200 a
month
> > for full coverage, less $500 deductable on my 1988 bronco. This is
a
> > heck of a lot of money for someone like me who is so young. What
exactly
> > am I paying for?
>
> Everyone else.. Good drivers subsidize the crappy ones and
vice-versa.
>
> >
> > How come someone who doesn't have insurance can rear end me, and
drive
> > home? I think the policeman should take her car away. I thought
that
> > driving without insurance was against the law, but I guess not.
>
> It depends upon the state; some require insurance and some don't.
Regardless
> it's not the policeman's responsibility to 'take' the vehicle; at
most tell
> her to not drive the vehicle and if she does it's her problem.. If
insurance
> isn't required there then there's nothing he could do.
>
> > Why does this happen?
>
> Karma?
>
> > This is more fuel to the fire of "jap crap".. Maybe I'm just
really mad
> > and I have a headache and neckache.
>
> Hope all becomes well there!
>
> >
> > What's wrong with the state of california that allows uninsured
> > motorists to wreck into INSURED motorists, and then drive home?
>
> Sadly many states dont actually require insurance.
>
> >
> > Is anyone else screaming "What's going on here?"
>
> Yep.. Also why do I pay astronomical amounts for liability only
with no
> claims against me in 22 years because of some tickets/revocations?
It's a
> scam based on 'averages'. I need to explain more about it, but got
to go so
> I'll leave it to other learned people on the list to expound on
actuarial
> tables..
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:17:32 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan" psnw.com>
Subject: 1974 V6 Ford engine 2.8L

Folks:

Can anyone give an opinion of the 1974
Ford V6 2.8L as I have been told this
is not much of an engine but it's in
a small truck I want to buy.

Sincerely,

Michael

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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:22:44 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: 1974 V6 Ford engine 2.8L

At 10:17 AM 2/19/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Folks:
>
>Can anyone give an opinion of the 1974
>Ford V6 2.8L as I have been told this
>is not much of an engine but it's in
>a small truck I want to buy.


My Brother had a 74 Mustang II with the 2.8.
He put in an Isky torquer cam, Doug thorley headers, Aftermarket intake
(forget which) with a 390CFM holley 4bbl carb, and had the heads
ported/polished and bigger valves put in, and it was a screamer!
Beat my 69 Mustang with a built 302v8 with no problems!
Had he not totalled the car, it would have lasted as well!
Tough motor!


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From: Bakendaol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:48:36 EST
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

In a message dated 2/19/00 9:01:31 AM Mountain Standard Time,
mdfishergte.net writes:

> Now you guys that insist on buying Japanese products go right ahead and buy
> them. You can use the excuse that they are ASSEMBLED in the US, but they
> have MUCH larger foreign content than do American branded vehicles.
>
It is quite heartening to see so many pro American replies on the list!!!!
Dennis

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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:29:48 -0500
From: Paul cfw.com>
Subject: Blivet vs. Ginch

That is cool. We call that a "ginch".

(10 lbs of Clinton in a 5 lb bag)

Paul G.

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Date: 19 Feb 00 18:52:16 EST
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [1974 V6 Ford engine 2.8L]

"Michael D. Sheridan" psnw.com> wrote:

> Can anyone give an opinion of the 1974
> Ford V6 2.8L as I have been told this
> is not much of an engine but it's in
> a small truck I want to buy.
>

Well the 2.8 gave good service in the Capri's of that era. I haven't seen 'em
denounced much on the Capri mail-list either... Ford decided they were tough
enough to use in the Ranger & B-IIs where they still live on despite being 15+
years old. The 2.9 is essentially the same engine, and the 4.0 is of a
similar design as well.

As David said, many high performance parts are available for the 2.8s as well.
They're not listed on the web site but Racer Walsh has 4 Bbl intakes, 390 CFM
4 Bbl carbs and cams in his catalog. I'm still undecided exactly what I'll
do to my 2.8 when I get around to overhauling it but I'm pretty sure it wont
be 100% stock. :-)

Tim

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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:49:20 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

I aree completely.

Mike Fisher wrote:

> Personally, I don't normally use the term Jap either. I do, however believe
> that there is just as much racial prejudice on the Japanese side as there is
> on ours. I have plenty of friends (not all of whom are white) who have
> worked for numerous Japanese electronics manufacturers here in Dallas who
> say that the only people who get promoted are the Japanese.
>
> The Japanese tried to screw us during WWII, and they're still doing it to
> this day, but Americans are stupid to realize it. When we run $4-$5 billion
> deficits with Japan EVERY month, that should tell us something. Our country
> is as competitive in manufacturing as any other country in the world, but
> some of them (Japan being a perfect example) won't open their markets to
> American products. Of course, even if they did, the people in some of those
> countries realize the value of purchasing domestic goods, and would continue
> to do so anyway. We, on the other hand, believe in buying whatever suits our
> needs. Did anyone on this list know that nine of the ten largest banks in
> the world are in Japan? They didn't get that way by using fair trade
> practices.
>
> Had our country been like any other on the planet (especially Japan), after
> WWII we would have made Japa the 49th state, and Germany the 50th. But NO,
> we're nice guys and let both of them crap on us ever since.
>
> Now you guys that insist on buying Japanese products go right ahead and buy
> them. You can use the excuse that they are ASSEMBLED in the US, but they
> have MUCH larger foreign content than do American branded vehicles.
>
> BTW, using the term Asian is just as demeaning as anything else, because
> this is like saying that Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Malaysian, Indonesian,
> Vietnamese, Laotian, Singaporean, etc. are all the same anyway, so let's not
> make the distinction.
>
> Mike Fisher
> '97 AWD Mountaineer
> K&N/Borla/31x10.5 BFG ATs/PIAA/Edelbrock IAS
>


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From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Starter motor
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:03:40 CST

Travis,

If your truck came from Texas, there's a good chance it was exposed to
the salt atmosphere. When I went to the auto electric shop which made up my
new cables for me, (they do a lot of this for big rigs) they told me that
this is a common problem in this area. They also said that once the
corrosion gets inside the insulation, there is no way to get it all out. I
guess we should just treat the cables like other "consumables" like spark
plugs and wires, tires, batteries, etc.

On a happier note, I tried a battery terminal cleaner made by NOCO, which
seems to do a good job of dissolving the visible corrosion. The same
company (NOCO)makes a product called NCP-2, which comes in a very small
spray can and has, so far, eliminated additional corrosion on my battery
terminal. I put this on over a year ago, and as of this week, I could not
find ANY sign of corrosion. I found both products at Wal-Mart.


>
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From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: The litigousness of the american
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:11:16 CST

Adam,

I hope you got yourself checked out by your doctor. That kind of injury
can give you trouble for the rest of your life. I'm not kidding. Even if
the doctor can't find anything on X-rays, that does not mean that you don't
have an injury. I know, some will say that this is just the kind of "soft
tissue injury" that has led to so much litigation. My response is, so what?
If you are in pain, something is wrong!! Don't think your doctor is
brushing you off if he prescribes physical therapy, either. My wife had a
similar type injury, (she was pregnant at the time of the accident and had
to tough it out without painkillers) and after the baby was born she finally
tried physical therapy, which actually did wonders for her. It didn't
completely "cure" the problem, but it made life much easier.


>
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:50:33 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Please trim the footers

Forwarded for:
Tim Turner netscape.net>

Ken Payne ford-trucks.com> wrote:

> I asked everyone last week to trim the unsubscribe footer
> from posts when replying. The bottom of the last email
> illustrates exactly why.

If anyone's wondering he means the one(s) that have this..

> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
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2 or more times at the bottom. It's really not hard to delete it in your
replies. (Along with all the quoted matter you're not addressing too
preferably.)


> Please trim the footers (hint:
> there is a "no-post" subscribe setting!).

That would, ummm.. suck! Better than expulsion though since if you had a real
thought on a question you could still e-mail the original mailer directly.


Tim
85 B-II
Any replies please delete from below this line. ;-)




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From: Mark Biederbeck email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: starter motor
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:51:13 -0800

This week I wrote:

>My starter in my 91 Ranger 4.0/auto quit today. The relay was "clicking",
>the lights looked bright and I had a troubleshooting light to confirm
juice
>was getting to the other side of the relay. After an expensive tow home,
>thank God for towing insurance, I decided to try my charger. After 15

It ended up being the starter motor...thanks to all those who wrote. The
solenoid was engaging but the motor wasn't turning. It sounds like the
brushes were getting bad. If I "whacked" the starter it would occasionally
turn a rev or two but that was it.

Mark Biederbeck


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From: DJ250raol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:24:05 EST
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

i like the WORD jap u guys need to get over your sensitive problems with
words

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From: Usrockaol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:40:46 EST
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

why dont you all get off this ethnic slur thing. I think enough has been said
about it.

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From: "Bad Brian" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:18:17 PST


>why dont you all get off this ethnic slur thing. I think enough has been
>said
>about it.




I agree. Some like Japs some don't. Each one of us has an opinion and both
sides have been voiced. Next subject please


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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:19:15 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes cybertrails.com>
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

Enough is enough on this topic!!!!! Lets get back to Ford trucks and SUV's.


> i like the WORD jap u guys need to get over your sensitive problems with
> words


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From: DJ250raol.com
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:15:31 EST
Subject: Re: ethnic slurs

lol

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