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fordtrucks-digest Sunday, September 21 1997 Volume 01 : Number 231



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In this issue:

RE: semi-metallic shoes ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Acronym ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Draining Yer 9"... ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Assorted questions ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: ADMIN: List split information ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Synthetic Oil ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Drain plug info... [FORDTRKNUT aol.com]
RE: Seat Cover sources ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
BTUs 'R' Us..! [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
heater controls??? [Joe D ]
Flathead Help [Flathead52 aol.com]
Re: BTUs 'R' Us..! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: heater controls??? [DC Beatty ]
RE: semi-metallic shoes [DC Beatty ]
Re: ADMIN: New list [Mustang262 aol.com]
Re: heater controls??? [Mustang262 aol.com]
1952 F1 HELP [joebob lobo.net (Joseph B. Michels, Phd)]
Re: 1952 F1 HELP [Mustang262 aol.com]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential [Sleddog ]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential [Sleddog ]
RE: Draining Yer 9"... [Sleddog ]
RE: Draining Yer 9"... [Sleddog ]

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 07:41:58 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: semi-metallic shoes

> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 22:35:47 -0400
> From: DC Beatty
> Subject: RE: semi-metallic shoes

> in the wallet. I paid $55 for one set!!! And now they squeal!!!
> Arrrggghhh!!!

Just occured to me that if squeal is primarily caused by loose pads
on disc brakes maybe there is something not quite seated in the drum?
Maybe the shoes aren't being pulled all the way into the lugs by the
springs so there is a little chatter on application? Just a thought
:-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 07:45:53 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Acronym

> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 23:22:04 -0500
> From: Daver
> Subject: Re: Acronym

> > Chevy Chevy there the Best drive a mile and walk the Rest...Ford
> > The BEST never Rest..........
> >
> > JOe
>
> I'd rather push a ford than drive a chevy.

Carry some tools and a few parts and you won't even have to do that
:-) My coil came off after passing every one on the road and coming
to a 4 way stop I could't keep the dang thing running long enough to
get through the intersection. Had my trusty 9/16 box end handy and
tightened the bolt back down (while hundreds of cars streamed past
my open door) and off we went :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 07:51:34 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Draining Yer 9"...

> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 21:11:40 -0700
> Subject: Draining Yer 9"...

> I'm thinking of drilling a hole in mine at the back of the housing
> near the bottom, and welding in a 1/4" pipe fitting so I can have a
> drain plug.

Never done it because I leave mine it till it dies and then change it
when I rebuild about every 200k miles or so :-) Course I don't race
or pull so if you feel it's necessary then why not drill a hole
directly into the housing and tap it with a pipe tap? Maybe the
bottom isn't a good place since it might weaken the "truss" effect of
the casting, don't know?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 07:59:47 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Assorted questions

> From: danadeb pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 23:18:21 -0700
> Subject: Re: Assorted questions

> If my memory serves me correctly a 1957 to 1959 ford 9" rear end out
> of a pick-up is a direct bolt, in size wise. ( "U" joints may be an
> issue but I am pretty sure you can find a set that will work or you
> have to change the input yoke on the rear end, something like that.
> ) Also be sure to get the "U" bolts and plate that mount the axial
> to the spring. I did the same swap about 15 years ago on a 56 and I
> think it will work on a 54.

Truck frames have been 34" wide for a long time. I put a 48 GMC bus
axle with dual 20" tires on the back of a 68 F-100 and made up a
drive shaft from the bus and the front spline slipped right into the
Ford midship bearing spline. I couldn't believe it! I just
unrivited the shackle brackets from the frame and welded the whole
thing from the bus on to the Ford. Worked like a charm :-) Got to
pay close attention to set back when putting them on this way though.

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:11:49 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: ADMIN: List split information

> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:49:48 -0400
> From: Ken Payne
> Subject: ADMIN: List split information

> If you want to be on the 1960 and older list in addition to or
> instead of the 1961-1979/1980+ lists, I need the following
> information:

I don't have problem with the address since Pegasus automatically
puts in the address from which it came and saves all unique addresses
for me when I reply so I can always dig it back up. We should all be
using Pegasus, it sure works well for me and it's prettier than
Microsoft stuff :-) I guess some folks are stuck with some network
thing their systems gave them :-(

I would like to stay on both older lists in live mode, thanks :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:57:37 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Synthetic Oil

> From: "deconblu"
> Subject: Re: Synthetic Oil
> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:32:04 -0700

> So what was the lie that you seen at the links that were on my
> post? Or
> was this just off the cuff!

Just a general observation, didn' t mean to imply that was a bad
thing to do, just that if you read Split fire adds and Borla adds and
if you've ever tried some of these (I haven't but certainly have read
a lot of personal reports on them) products you will see what I mean.
Mobil has some good general information but you can't believe all
their claims or comparisons any more than splt fire's. My comment
was just a reminder that we have to sift through the stuff to get to
the meat no matter what product we're looking at. I wasn't implying
that you were wrong or the information wasn't appreciated, sorry :-(

The FAQ I was refering to had generic information on the additives,
interactions of additives, environmental impacts and other properties
and then rated the various oils based on these properties. I didn't
find this kind of information on the Mobil site but I didn't look at
every link so maybe I missed it. The tractor FAQ also had some test
comparisons but I can't remember all the stuff except that the
components of Mobil and Penzoil were similar and both were distinct
from the others in these properties. Can't remember if Red Line was
in there or not, sorry I was just comparing Mobil with Penzoil at the
time :-(

As I said, these are good sources of good info, just be from Missouri
when you go there :-) I've gotten over 100k out of all my vehicles
for many years no matter what oil I've used but I like the synthetics
the best due to longer oil change frequencies. I still change every
3k or so but the added insurance of the longer life sure doesn't hurt
when you don't get around to it right away :-)

BTW, Mobil1 is probably the best you can buy but Red Line could be
just as good and Penzoil is so close that I couldn't see switching
for an additional $3/qt. so I stayed with Penzoil. I wish I hadn't
lost that URL, you'd love to see that one I'm sure since it gives you
all the additives by chemical name and trade name, what they do etc.
and who has how much of each so you can compare for yourself. I
don't like them to tell me it's rated for this or that and will do
this or that, I like to see a description of the additives, their
interactions etc. and make up my own mind who's doing it right but
that's just my personal view :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:05:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: Re: Drain plug info...

The drain plug was removed by FORD in the early 60's I think. The cost to
manufacture, punch the hole in the housing, & weld it in was small per
rear...but it added up to big bucks. An engineer that worked at my company
told me about it. He worked at FORD for many years until he came to our
company....he drives a 1968 or 1969 429SCJ Torino to work every day!!!! Well
gotta go and organize the garage....AGAIN!!! Wayne Grabley

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:15:29 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Seat Cover sources
>
> From: jack fleming
> Subject: RE: Seat Cover sources
> > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 19:18:57 -0400

> Sorry for the delay, I've been traveling on business. I haven't
> found anything yet to use for my truck's seat covers. When I said
> covers, what I meant was some type of "kit" that would enable me to
> rehab the seat with "like new" materials. Custom Interiors claims
> to have a line of these things available, but I still haven't gotten
> anything from them (after calling them twice)...I'll keep you posted
> on what I find. Jack

I was going to do that too but decided that by the time I buy the
covers and hope they are large enough to fit properly and replace the
foam and fix the springs I could have it done by a competent
reupolstery shop. I even had the "S" clips to do it myself but gave
up after pricing the covers :-(

BTW, your notes are coming in as binarys of unknown format which
Pegasus can read but requires several extra steps to see the text.

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 05:29:00 -0500
From: dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Subject: BTUs 'R' Us..!

- -> It's funny, from the people I've talked with, the 302 guys seem to
- -> think the early
- -> truck heaters work good, while many FE truck owners think the heater
- -> is marginal..

My '68 was originally a 240 six. As far as I know all the heaters were
the same. It now has a '65 330 Olds engine and the heater works just
fine, even though the water temp won't go over 150-160F (with a 180
thermostat) on a 25-30F day. No engine fan, 16" Derale electric mounted
ahead of the radiator. Radiator is from for a 427 FE dump truck, four....

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