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fordtrucks-digest Saturday, September 20 1997 Volume 01 : Number 228



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In this issue:

Re: spare tire carrier [tfam swbell.net]
Another Acronym ["Don & Teresa Neighbors" ]
Re: Acronym [Joe D ]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential [Sleddog ]
Re: Acronym [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential [Sleddog ]
Place to look at Swampers in Norfolk Va [james oxley ]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential [DC Beatty ]
Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage? [Claypaul aol.com]
Re: Dim instrument lights...Help!!! [Claypaul aol.com]
Re: Pre-oiler [Claypaul aol.com]
Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage? ["Gary, 78 BBB"
Re: the brady bunch 9" differential [Claypaul aol.com]
Synthetic Oil ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Fw: Please support Craig Breedlove! ["deconblu" ]
RE: the brady bunch 9" differential ["Brett McCoy"

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:22:06 -0700
From: tfam swbell.net
Subject: Re: spare tire carrier

tfam swbell.net wrote:
>
> The company that I work for gave me a 95 E-250, it has a spare tire
> winch that is cranked up and down using the lug wrench inserted through
> a hole under one of the rear door sills. It works great.
>L. D. in K.C. 97 F-250 HD 52 F-1 50 F-1 panel
> 95 e-250 (company)

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 06:53:02 -0400
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: Another Acronym

Okay, let's pick on a foreign car:
Fix
It
Again
Tony

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 07:13:25 -0400
From: Joe D
Subject: Re: Acronym

Theres also the little jingle:

Chevy Chevy there the Best drive a mile and walk the Rest...Ford
The BEST never Rest..........

JOe
68 f100

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:15:26 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:07:12 -0400

> point. i keep finding another weak link each time i fix one. and
> next year i am sure will be worse as i plan on having at least
> 100-150 more HP on tap and improved traction.

You're running a 460 right? What tranny and what size tires and
gearing? Just curious :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:41:03 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

i am running a c6 with low gear set (11 percent lower first) with 3.50 rear
gears.i use 33" BFG muds for street, off roading, or whatever (don't drive
it much lately) and on the pull track i use either the 33" bfg's, or most
often a set of 27.5" tall retreads. the retreads have a tread patterned
after the wooly bogger tire. it has chevrons on the sides with a zig zag
up the center. the transfer case is the 205 (is that the right # for the
cast iron gear gase?) the low gear set on the c6 is like running 3.73
gears and stock c-6 instead of 3.50 gears.

i have had problems with universals, but found that as long as they are all
new and well taken care of i can get by with the ones from parts america -
they have a lifetime warrrenty on them for my truck. this year my yokes
bit the dust several times and all this breakage goin' on has scarred my
driveshaft. so possibly it will be the next weak link.

most breaks i have replaced with same parts. right now all parts are oem
or oem replacement, i have no exotic stuff in the axles, etc. my tranny is
the most exotic using roller bearings thru out and competition kevlar
clutch packs. of course, the second gear band is totally worn out now so
that i can't hit second gear if i am on the throttle much. i need to fix
that before i take the truck to the dirt drags.

i can talk about my pull truck all day - anything else? :)

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 1997 4:15 AM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:07:12 -0400

> point. i keep finding another weak link each time i fix one. and
> next year i am sure will be worse as i plan on having at least
> 100-150 more HP on tap and improved traction.

You're running a 460 right? What tranny and what size tires and
gearing? Just curious :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --






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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:47:50 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Acronym

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:15:00 -0400 Ken Payne
writes:
>At 09:51 AM 9/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>Heard this one last night
>>
>>Car
>>Heaves
>>Every
>>Valve
>>Rattles
>>Oil
>>Leaks
>>Every
>>Time
>>
>>;o)
>>Any others out there?
>
>C ar
>H as
>E xtreme
>V alve
>R attle
>O n
>L ong
>E xtended
>T rips

C an
H ear
E very
V alve
R attle
O r
L ifter
E very
T ime

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:29:19 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:41:03 -0400

> i am running a c6 with low gear set (11 percent lower first) with
> 3.50 rear gears.i use 33" BFG muds for street, off roading, or
> whatever (don't drive it much lately) and on the pull track i use
> either the 33" bfg's, or most often a set of 27.5" tall retreads.
> the retreads have a tread patterned after the wooly bogger tire. it
> has chevrons on the sides with a zig zag up the center. the
> transfer case is the 205 (is that the right # for the cast iron gear
> gase?) the low gear set on the c6 is like running 3.73 gears and
> stock c-6 instead of 3.50 gears.

I think the 203 is cast iron too but it's full time so your's is
probably the 205. It's marked right on the case in big numbers.

Where did you find 27.5" agressive tires like that? Are the special
for pulling?

Sounds like the late 70's vintage wide ratio gear set. I have this
in my 78 Pu and it's like running low rear gears as you say but still
get the good top end with the 2.75's. Do you have the 5 plate low
gear clutch pak?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:45:14 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

the tires are retreads that i got from a guy who used them for dirt drags
and the 7 miler races on a cj jeep. he told me the guy who did them won't
do them anymore and i have yet to find ANYONE who will retread tires with a
special kind of tread like this.
as for the trans, GER built it so i am not sure of the exact number of
plates but on the phone i think he said it does have the 5 plate clutch
pak. i would actually like a lower ratio trans gear but none are available
unless i drive a chevy.
it is a 205 t-case.
for the street, the regular tranny gears work fine as the 460 unless built
seriously wrong, has more than enough torque to pull a forest full of
stumps at one time. i only got the low gear set for the pulling track.

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 1997 6:29 AM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

I think the 203 is cast iron too but it's full time so your's is
probably the 205. It's marked right on the case in big numbers.

Where did you find 27.5" agressive tires like that? Are the special
for pulling?

Sounds like the late 70's vintage wide ratio gear set. I have this
in my 78 Pu and it's like running low rear gears as you say but still
get the good top end with the 2.75's. Do you have the 5 plate low
gear clutch pak?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --






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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 15:27:28 -0700
From: james oxley
Subject: Place to look at Swampers in Norfolk Va

Howdy

I'm going to be in Norfolk Va next week and was wondering if anyone new
of a good truck tire store that would let me check out the 38 Super
Swampers I want to get. I ordered 6" front coils and 2" rear blocks to up
my 4" lift to 6". The 38 X 12.5 boggers are 37.8 inch dia and my 35's fit
fine now. I have a 78 Bronco.

OX

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:55:38 -0400
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

The poor man. He's been snapping diffs and now *he* has snapped. =

I usually hear the "I Dream of Jeannie" theme. :-)

DC Beatty

the brady bunch theme popped into my head today while i was trying to mak=
e =

one working 9" from a couple of seriously ill rears. it took 2 hours jus=
t =

to free the left side brake drum from the junk yard rear. and the gears =

inside were so rusted on one spot that the ring gear wouldn't turn a full=
=

circle. but the mesh pattern is now looking good enough to get me by =

awhile and i got axles with enough spline left to engage the differential=
=2E =

as i keep braking these 9"ers, that dana 70 under my other truck keeps =

looking better!
_________________________
here's a story
of a man named sleddog
who had a 9" with a story all its own
all of its parts were very broken
the smallest gear was gone
and then one day when this rear end met another
and together they had more parts than one
even with the rusted gears and bearings
they somehow formed a working rear
a working rear
a working rear
that's how they both become a working rear
_______________________________

the brady bunch song never sounded so good!

i couldn't resist ;)

sleddog

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claypaul aol.com
Subject: Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage?

Couple of thoughts... do you have any problems with reverse? If not, then it
is probably either the vacuum modulator out of adjustment or defective (they
do go bad) or a problem with the valve body. Had same problem with 73
Ranchero 428SCJ with C6 and there was a piece of grit in the valve body in
one of the fluid valves. Reccommend extreme caution if you haven't
disassembled valve bodies before. There are spring loaded check-balls inside
that sometimes head for the North Forty when you take the cover off. Had to
go to Ford dealer after the first one I did to see a blowup of the valve body
to see where everything went back together. Anyway good luck. Hope this
helps.

Paul

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:33:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claypaul aol.com
Subject: Re: Dim instrument lights...Help!!!

Sounds like the instrument light rheostat on your light switch is bad-
replace it or you may have a resistive ground on your instrument panel light
circuit . As for the dash plasic, take it out and clean it. If what's fogging
it up doesn't come off, it's probably sun damage and will have to be
replaced.

Regards, Paul

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:42:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claypaul aol.com
Subject: Re: Pre-oiler

I don't know if any of you have seen the promo, but Prolong oil additive
claims to do exactly the same thing. Trying it now in my T-bird and ski boat
(351C)......

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:43:58 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage?

> From: Claypaul aol.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage?

> extreme caution if you haven't disassembled valve bodies before.
> There are spring loaded check-balls inside that sometimes head for
> the North Forty when you take the cover off. Had to go to Ford

There are 4 as I recall and every dang hole and slot looks like where
they go. Trouble is there's a lot more slots and holes than check
balls :-( I have a 79 Petersons with a beautiful pictorial, step by
step rebuild section on the C-6. The rebuild seal kit comes with a
schematic showing where they go too as I recall but don't take it
apart without a schematic or you are a cooked goose! I remember
them as just lying in there with no springs involved but they are
plastic and just fall right out on the floor (at least if you don't
know they're in there like me) :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:03:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claypaul aol.com
Subject: Re: the brady bunch 9" differential

my god, man! get a life.....:-)

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:46:32 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Synthetic Oil

List Guys & Gals,

Just got back from Wal-Mart. While there I was looking at the synthetic
motor oils, I have never used them but I am considering it now.
My question is; Why the difference in price? Mobil 1, Quaker State, and
Castrol are all $4/qt., Pennzoil Performax is $3/qt. . These are all 100%
synthetic oils, not blends. Is the Pennzoil product the equivalent of the
others? Are synthetics worth the cost? I'm getting good engine life with
good old petro based oil but hope to improve fuel economy and stretch the
time between oil changes. Are these realistic goals?

Thanks in advance for your opinions and experience.

dale c

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:01:43 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Fw: Please support Craig Breedlove!

I have received permission to forward this from Chuck Fry. If you are a
member of other lists I have received permission to say, forward this to
those lists too! Please keep the original message complete, including
Chuck's name!


Deacon Blues
Visit my Homepage at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
and http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/
or send me a fan or flame at deconblu gte.net not both. Never fan a flame!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Fry
To: fordnatics lists.best.com
Date: Friday, September 19, 1997 4:55 PM
Subject: Please support Craig Breedlove!



>[Whoops, typo'd out the last one before I was done!]
>
>OK, I admit it. There's little Ford content in this item, and a bit of
>nationalistic blather.
>
>But I think this is important stuff, and you US-based gearheads and
>speed freaks are the right ones to hear this message.
>
>Some of you may know that Craig Breedlove is currently preparing an
>assault on the world Land Speed Record currently held by Britisher Sir
>Richard Noble at some 633 MPH. Both Breedlove and Noble currently have
>teams and cars on Nevada's Black Rock Desert, the only site in the
>Northern Hemisphere large enough and flat enough for safe runs at the
>speed of sound.
>
>And the speed of sound is the goal of both teams! Noble's Thrust SSC
>and Breedlove's Spirit of America are ready to go head-to-head, raising
>the record by increments until one or the other exceeds the speed of
>sound -- about 750 MPH at Black Rock's altitude. I expect both teams to
>make a record attempt before the month is out.
>
>This is real live dancing-on-the-edge-of-disaster drama here, make no
>mistake. No one knows what will happen when the cars break through the
>sound barrier. The drivers are literally putting their lives on the
>line for the record. Racing doesn't get any more elemental than this,
>nor do the stakes get any higher.
>
>In a test run last fall, Breedlove punched the Spirit of America up to
>an estimated 675 MPH (!!), when something went wrong and the car wound
>up on its side, making a giant U-turn across the desert. Fortunately
>Craig was OK but the car was severely damaged, and it's taken them until
>this month to get it ready for duty again.
>
>Early last week, on another test run, their jet engine swallowed some
>foreign debris, and had to be replaced. The team quickly installed a
>spare, but with their reserves depleted, they've had to go back to their
>sponsors (one of whom is Ford Motor Company -- see, Ford content!!) for
>more money. While the car is again ready to run and has cranked off an
>estimated 380 MPH in testing today, the team is appealing to the public
>for financial support.
>
>That's where you come in. If you have some spare cash lying around, and
>you think the world Land Speed Record should belong to a US driver, send
>that cash to the Spirit of America team at:
>
> Spirit of America
> "Drive for the Record"
> P.O. Box 146
> Gerlach, NV 89412
>
>For more information, see the following web sites:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.spiritofamerica.com/
> The official Spirit of America web site. (Check out the QuickTime
>video of last year's mishap!)
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.speedvision.com/
> The Speedvision cable network, one of the sponsors of the Spirit of
>America.
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://thrustms.digital.co.uk/
> The official Thrust SSC web site, with daily updates from Black Rock.
>
>Disclaimer: I am not in any way connected with the Spirit of America or
>Thrust SSC, though I'll probably send Breedlove a check tonight.
>
> -- Chuck, proud to be an American
>
>| Another Fordnatics post -- Author retains copyright -- ask before
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>
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 22:22:27 -0500
From: "Brett McCoy"
Subject: RE: the brady bunch 9" differential

Sleddog, you said,

> I am not saying the 9" is a bad axle -
>
>so far I have broke every possible piece of the drivetrain except front
>axle shafts, transfer case, drive shaft. every yoke, universal, or other
>part including the tranny has given way at some point. i keep finding
>another weak link each time i fix one. and next year i am sure will be
>worse as i plan on having at least 100-150 more HP on tap and improved
>traction.

A pal of mine as an early '70's F-350 crew cab. He just rebuilt his rear
end because he wanted to get to a better gear ratio. When I was looking at....


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