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fordtrucks-digest Thursday, September 18 1997 Volume 01 : Number 226



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In this issue:

Re: Compression Ratios ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: Pre-oiler ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Dim instrument lights...Help!!! [John Strauss ]
Re: Voting results ["Lee Hardy" ]
Re: Compression Ratios and a C6 ["John F. Bauer III"
Exhaust/Intake manifolds [AM14 chrysler.com]
Re: Exhaust/Intake manifolds [John MacNamara ]
Acronym [Tom Hogan ]
Re: Acronym [Ken Payne ]
RE: Compression Ratios [Sleddog ]
Compression Ratios [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
Pre-oiler [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
Model year cut off dates... [Ken Payne ]
Re: Question For Group [Claypaul aol.com]
Re: 56 ford f100 - need opinions [DAVID NEUMAYER ]
Re: Compression Ratios [SuperMagot aol.com]
Hello !! [Brian & Jacque Milbrandt ]
Web site [Tom Hogan ]
the brady bunch 9" differential [Sleddog ]
56 ford opinions. [Sleddog ]
428 CJ manifold on a 390? [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: PVS Switch, 351M ["Dave Resch"]

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:01:37 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Compression Ratios

> From: SuperMagot aol.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:56:21 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Compression Ratios

> I have worked with a few computer programs that can calculate
> cylinder pressure based upon such things as compression ratios,
> camshaft info, etc.

Does anyone know if Desk Top Dyno or Engine Analyzer will do this
efficiently? Accurately?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:11:22 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Pre-oiler

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: Pre-oiler
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:27:07 -0400

> the pump fails it keeps oil there untill you can safely pull over
> and stop the engine thereby reducing the overall engine damage
> during such a tragic moment.

I vote for the 9 gal diesel pan myself :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:13:57 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: Dim instrument lights...Help!!!

>
>I have a 68 F100 and the instrument lights are very dim. Is there something
>I can do to get them brighter? Also, the plastic over the speedometer is
>real "foggy" looking, is there something I can do to get it to look clear
>again? It seams to be on the interior of the the plastic.
>
You can pull out your headlight switch and bypass the rheostat with a jumper.

If you will use a very mild polishing compound (such as Meguire's Body
Scrub) intended for clear coat paints it will likely clear it up. Worked
on mine.


_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, _} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:35:03 -0400
From: "Lee Hardy"
Subject: Re: Voting results

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> From: Ken Payne
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net; fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Voting results
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 1997 9:04 AM
>
> Just counted the voting results for the split: 34 in favor,
> 11 against. As I said earlier, not many votes. Does anyone
> care to see the comments made or is it a moot point?
>
> -Ken
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:38:25 -0400
From: "John F. Bauer III"
Subject: Re: Compression Ratios and a C6

Ahhhh, I did notice a bit of oil on the end of the vacuum line going away
from the trans and the inside of the rubber hose looked pretty slick with
oil. No drips, nothing gushing, but a bit of oil. Well, will give this my
next try and report back my results.

ATF didn't smell burnt or look black at all when I dumped it all over my
driveway, hands, knees, wife's flowers ... still taking abuse on that one!

Again, much thanks for folks keeping my perplexities on their minds and
offering helpful tips!

John
At 06:59 AM 9/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>A reply to a couple of issues:
> To Tom Hogan on Compression: Compression ratio directly affects the
>engine's out put of hydrocarbon and NOx emissions. The higher the CR, the
>lower HC emissions, but your NOx emissions go up. The reverse is true as
>compression goes lower. Pinging becomes a problem if compression is too
>high. (well, you probably already know that.) With today's gas the
>practical limit is usually between 8 or 9 to 1 compression, depending on
>head design, etc, etc.
> To John on that C6: Did you say the vacuum modulator hose was soft from
>oil? Did a little transmission fluid leak out when you removed that vacuum
>hose? If so, your vacuum modulator is history. I have very little hands-on
>experience with a C6, but I can tell you from personal experience that a C4
>won't go into 3rd if the modulator is dead or disconnected. (I discovered
>this when I forgot to attach the vacuum hose to the very first C4 I ever
>rebuilt!)
> As was suggested by another member of this discussion group, if the direct
>(High) clutch pack isn't engaging, then you will have no 3rd gear. This
>could be a problem like the one I just described, or the clutch piston is
>stuck. If the clutches themselves had failed, that ungodly amount of fluid
>you dumped out would have dark or even black, and would smell burned. If
>the clutch piston quit engaging, then there is a (slim) possibility there's
>a problem in the valve body, or the seals are bad on the clutch servo. The
>fluid level at the dipstick you describes suggests 1/2 to 1 quart
>over-full, which SHOULD only make shifting a little wierd, but should't be
>enough to prevent the 2-3 shift.
> By the way, while I'm only working from memory here, 6 quarts drained out
>sounds about right for a C6, with more, like 2 or 3 quarts in the torque
>convertor.
> Hope this helps. if it doesn't, you'll feel much better after thrashing
>the guy that sold you the van!
>
> Don Neighbors
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 97 12:31:09 EDT
From: AM14 chrysler.com
Subject: Exhaust/Intake manifolds

I think the best factory exhaust manifolds are the '60 thru '67 Hi Perf
352/390/427, which were very short headers. Next are the '68 thru '70 428.
then the 390GT type from (?) '65 thru '67 (I think). I had a '61 Starliner
with Hi Perf 390 and these were very good. I also had a '69 Mustang with 428
Super CJ. and these were also very good. I put both in trucks later on. The
'61's were used on a '74 4X4 I had with a 428 CJ in it. The '69's were used on
a '76 4X4 again with a 428 CJ in it.

I think the best 4bbl intake I ever had was an aluminum 428 that looked much
like the standard 428 CJ of '69 vintage except the carb location was slightly
offset to one side (half inch maybe) and approx 2 inches forward of the stock
location. The P/N was something like C80E-9425-XXX. (Experimental maybe) I ran
across it at Holman-Moodys place in NC and talked them out of it as I was
purchasing several $'s worth of performance parts from them at the time. The
428 intake is a much better choice than the normal 352/390 non-performance
types.

I didn't think the 428 was offered in the '67 Mustangs. I was under the
impression that the 428 was not offered until mid-year '68. The 427 was
however offered in very limited qtys. in '67. Am I not right FOMOCO fans??

WORKING TO BE THE BEST
Azie Magnusson_07910 Huntsville, Al.
PROFS ID (AM14):E-Mail AM14 Chrysler.com
Tie Line (835-2578):Outside (205)464-2578

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:52:43 -0700
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Exhaust/Intake manifolds

AM14 chrysler.com wrote:
>
> I think the best factory exhaust manifolds are the '60 thru '67 Hi Perf
> 352/390/427, which were very short headers. Next are the '68 thru '70 428.
> then the 390GT type from (?) '65 thru '67 (I think). I had a '61 Starliner
> with Hi Perf 390 and these were very good. I also had a '69 Mustang with 428
> Super CJ. and these were also very good. I put both in trucks later on. The
> '61's were used on a '74 4X4 I had with a 428 CJ in it. The '69's were used on
> a '76 4X4 again with a 428 CJ in it.
>
> I think the best 4bbl intake I ever had was an aluminum 428 that looked much
> like the standard 428 CJ of '69 vintage except the carb location was slightly
> offset to one side (half inch maybe) and approx 2 inches forward of the stock
> location. The P/N was something like C80E-9425-XXX. (Experimental maybe) I ran
> across it at Holman-Moodys place in NC and talked them out of it as I was
> purchasing several $'s worth of performance parts from them at the time. The
> 428 intake is a much better choice than the normal 352/390 non-performance
> types.
>
> I didn't think the 428 was offered in the '67 Mustangs. I was under the
> impression that the 428 was not offered until mid-year '68. The 427 was
> however offered in very limited qtys. in '67. Am I not right FOMOCO fans??

Don't forget that Shelby put a 428 in the 67 GT500, which I happened to
have one of. When I pulled the engine I discovered a crack in the
number two cylinder on the driver side. I located a set of 66 390GT
manifolds and discovered that the #4 cylinder on the driver side has the
vertical bolt pattern whereas the original manifolds on the 428 have the
horizontal pattern on all cylinders.

Thanks
John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 Corvette
>
> WORKING TO BE THE BEST
> Azie Magnusson_07910 Huntsville, Al.
> PROFS ID (AM14):E-Mail AM14 Chrysler.com
> Tie Line (835-2578):Outside (205)464-2578
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:51:51 -0700
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: Acronym

Heard this one last night

Car
Heaves
Every
Valve
Rattles
Oil
Leaks
Every
Time

;o)
Any others out there?

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:15:00 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Acronym

At 09:51 AM 9/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Heard this one last night
>
>Car
>Heaves
>Every
>Valve
>Rattles
>Oil
>Leaks
>Every
>Time
>
>;o)
>Any others out there?

C ar
H as
E xtreme
V alve
R attle
O n
L ong
E xtended
T rips

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:11:33 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Compression Ratios

i have desktop dyno and it does not compute cyl. presure.

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 1997 7:01 AM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Cc: bigbroncos off -road. com
Subject: Re: Compression Ratios

> From: SuperMagot aol.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:56:21 -0400 (EDT)....

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