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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:36:17 -0600 (MDT)
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fordtrucks-digest Wednesday, September 17 1997 Volume 01 : Number 223



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In this issue:

Put the truck thru a test! ["deconblu" ]
Re: Question For Group ["George Shepherd" ]
Compression Ratios [Tom Hogan ]
Pre-oiler [Tom Hogan ]
Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage? [reedg ns2.cetlink.]
56 ford f100 - need opinions [Sleddog ]
RE: Pre-oiler [Sleddog ]
52 F-1 and a Chrysler Torsion Bar Front Suspension ["Scott Pilkinton"
Re: PVS Switch, 351M ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: F350 Booster Use???Brakes?? [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Compression Ratios [Daver ]
Re: ex manifold/header for 352/390 [Daver ]
Re: Riddle me this!!!! [Daver ]
Re: Dual Exhaust for my 74 ["Brett McCoy" ]
RE: 460. ["....." ]
Re: Riddle me this!!!! (Spare tire carrier) ["MICHAEL FRISCH"

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:10:06 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Put the truck thru a test!

Got this sweet delivery deal going. Take a pallet of plastic bags out to El
Somethingo less than 60 miles round trip using my truck '73 F100 302 2bbl
Shorty headers duel exhaust. It ran flawlessly! The electric fan kept the
temp right at the first normal line only going up to the "E" in temp in some
bumper to bumper. The ride was so nice in fact I missed El Whatevero and
ended up in Santa Monica (Venice Beach)!
Got back to El Taco nothing said! Life's just to Sweeeeet!
OK! It was El Monte. A little over shot coming from Ontario, but it could
have happened to anyone. Damn it I didn't take a camera and I've been
wanting to get a picture of my truck with a good background. Oh well, next
delivery I'll drop off the pallet, then head to the beach! Oh, and take a
camera. But if I forget, the next...



Deacon Blues
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or send me a fan or flame at deconblu gte.net not both. Never fan a flame!

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:43:41 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: Question For Group

Joe,

Replies to you get kicked back, no wonder you aren't getting replies. Check
your mail server.
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> From: George Shepherd
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Cc: shoman p3.net
> Subject: Re: Question For Group
> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 9:29 PM
>
> Joe,
>
> Don't remember questions from you, maybe they aren't getting through. Ask
> again, I got lots of books and lots of answers-some good-some not so
good.
>
> ----------
> > From: Joe D
> > To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> > Subject: Question For Group
> > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 6:16 AM
> >
> > I have a question....Am I doing something wrong? I post messages and
> > never seem to get any answers. Am I not receiving them or do I ask
> > to hard of a question or WHAT????Just venting I guess...I thought
> > there would be alot of help from the group but it seems like no one
> > really cares about the 67-72's......
> > Thanks for listening
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 14:55:00 -0700
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: Compression Ratios

How would increasing conpression ratio affect exhaust emissions? I know
if the engine doesn't ping that you can get more power out of it but
will fuel efficiency go up too?
Does anyone besides Sleddog have experience running higher compression
ratios? I'm wondering if the 460 has a more efficient design that can
live with the higher ratio. I saw a buildup in "Hot Rod" where they
built a long rod 350 C***y motor with 11:1 compression that ran well
with cat piss gass (85 octane) so I think it can be done. Also, what is
a good compression ratio limit for a 390 FE?

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:20:55 -0700
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: Pre-oiler

Has anyone heard about or had experience with an electric pre-oiler that
would pressurize the oil system in the motor before starting it?
I remember seeing one in a Truckin' magazine a long time ago. It
consisted of an electric pump that connected to the drain plug on the
oil pan. It drew the oil in from the sump and pumped it into the engine
> at the oil pressure sender or the filter (I can't remember).
The idea was to turn the pump on before starting the engine. The oil
would be circulating and protecting the main and cam bearings when the
starter was engaged. After the motor was running the pre-oiler was shut
off.
It also had some neat features. You could use it to empy the sump at
oil change time (imagine not having to let the oil run over the cross
member and muck it all up!!!!). It could also be programmed to come on
at shut down and run for a set time. Mainly to protect turbcharger
bearings.
I was wondering if anyone had seen one or if you knew if the company was
still in business.
Any ideas on fabricating one from scratch using an electic pump and a
remote oil filter adapter to route the oil back into the motor?
Or is it like my dad used to tell me..."It's a good idea son. There's
just one problem, it ain't worth a !+ !!" ?

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 19:57:38 +0000
From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
Subject: Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage?

I talked to a transmission technician yesterday, ( I have my own
trans problems) He said it could be your reverse-high clutch or your
direct clutch seals or plates. Whatever the heck that means.

> Group:
>
> Quick update on this silly C6 that can't get it up ... into third.
>
> I checked the fluid again, and then again. Got the transmission as level as
> I could (engine, trans, transfer case all mounted to angle down towards the
> rear diff. to reduce UV joint angularity) and the fluid level seemed a bit
> high (1/4" - 1/2" over full mark.) So, after pooling over all the great
> advice I have gotten (thanks much folks), I picked up a 76 Ford service
> manual from the library and a Fram filter/seal kit from the parts store and
> get ready to get dirty ...
>
> Don't have a vacuum gauge, but after removing the flexible hose to the
> vacuum diaphragm, with the engine running, I noticed a suction, but also
> noticed that the rubber hose had become very flexible and appears to maybe
> caving in on itself under the suction. So, with high hopes, replace hose
> with newer hose that doesn't noticeably crush under the suction and drove
> around town. Still no third.
>
> With advice to inspect filter and then move to modulator, I removed the
> trans. oil pan last night. Holy Cow! Must have dumped about 6+ quarts of
> fluid (including what was in the pan when I could finally get it off.)
> Filled one Peak antifreeze container to the top plus three 1 quart oil
> containers with all the fluid. The Ford service manual says the whole trans
> and t.converter hold 6.something quarts. (BTW, didn't touch the torque
> converter, assuming it has ever more fluid in it.)
>
> Now the big question, the service manual refers to too much fluid as causing
> fluid aeration that will reduce the oil pressure (I assume this will in turn
> cause the trans to not function correctly, but the text does draw any
> conclusions from the low oil pressure) and cause fluid to spill out the
> overflow vent. I have noticed no fluid coming out the overflow vent. Does
> this mean I might have some minimal to serious internal trans. problems due
> to the "way extra" fluid? What makes me believe I might be in trouble is
> that the Ford service manual says I should replace the filter, replace the
> gasket, put the pan back on and fill it with 3 quarters of fluid and then
> just check level in case a little topping off is required. Dumped like 6+
> quarts, replace with 3 quarts, what the heck was the other 3+ quarts doing
> in there? Too late to strangle the guy I bought the van from ...
>
> If anyone has any cool tips to help me out, I would greatly appreciate it!
>
> John

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:48:57 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: 56 ford f100 - need opinions

hello all,

i just came across a 56 ford truck for sale. he is asking $2500 and i was
wondering if i give you some info if you can give me an opinion. i havn't
seen it yet - may check it out on sunday.

it has fiberglass fenders, no bed, cab is (in his words) a-1 shape. the
front suspension is stock ford (no mustang or nova stuff here) and it has a
72 351C and 5-speed manual. he said when he cut out the rocker panels, the
cab must have shifted and the doors don't meet properly now. the grill and
other parts need to be cleaned-chromed. it has been sitting for 5 years or
so now in garage. interior is also said to be stock and in good shape.

it is a small window 56 (i really have been looking for a big window - are
there any left for sale at a decent price?).

any comments or suggestions of what to look for in these trucks would be
appreciated as i am not real familiar with these years.

i hope to get a closer look at it on sunday. i have to now rebuild my 9"
(can you say "totally disintegrated differential"?) and the last truck pull
for this year is on saturday so this has to wait for sunday.

thank you in advance for any help!

sleddog

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:59:50 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: Pre-oiler

i belsive they are in business - saw one of them there things in summit
catalog a while ago i think.
you could make one from scratch - pull out the grainger catalog and go to
work . . . i think they are only 500 dollars new . . . maybe i'll just
wait awhile . .

that's what i was thinking when i wanted one for my slightly warmed over
turbo dodge shadow several years ago.

sleddog

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From: Tom Hogan[SMTP:tom.hogan kla-tencor.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 7:20 PM
To: 'Ford Trucks'
Subject: Pre-oiler

Has anyone heard about or had experience with an electric pre-oiler that
would pressurize the oil system in the motor before starting it?
I remember seeing one in a Truckin' magazine a long time ago. It
consisted of an electric pump that connected to the drain plug on the
oil pan. It drew the oil in from the sump and pumped it into the engine
> at the oil pressure sender or the filter (I can't remember).
The idea was to turn the pump on before starting the engine. The oil
would be circulating and protecting the main and cam bearings when the
starter was engaged. After the motor was running the pre-oiler was shut
off.
It also had some neat features. You could use it to empy the sump at
oil change time (imagine not having to let the oil run over the cross
member and muck it all up!!!!). It could also be programmed to come on
at shut down and run for a set time. Mainly to protect turbcharger
bearings.
I was wondering if anyone had seen one or if you knew if the company was
still in business.
Any ideas on fabricating one from scratch using an electic pump and a
remote oil filter adapter to route the oil back into the motor?
Or is it like my dad used to tell me..."It's a good idea son. There's
just one problem, it ain't worth a !+ !!" ?






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