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fordtrucks-digest Tuesday, September 16 1997 Volume 01 : Number 220



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In this issue:

RE: ex. manifold/header for 352/390 [mcat epix.net]
port matching heads - intake [Sleddog ]
RE: 428CJ manifold?? Or? [Sleddog ]
Re: 428CJ manifold?? Or? [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
RE: Dual Exhaust for my 74 [Tom Hogan ]
Re: 460 intake suggestions [Tom Hogan ]
Re: Riddle me this!!!! ["deconblu" ]
Intake manifolds [Tom Hogan ]
Re: Dual Exhaust for my 74 [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: Bedliners [GMPACHECO aol.com]
460 intake suggestions ["Mike & Evan" ]
460 performance info [danadeb pacbell.net]
Re: 460 intake suggestions [HYDROSMITH aol.com]
Re: Question For Group ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: '89 f-250 gastank ["George Shepherd" ]
PVS Switch, 351M ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: Riddle me this!!!! [dave.williams chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)]
Re: Riddle me this!!!! ["deconblu" ]

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 97 17:59:15 PDT
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: ex. manifold/header for 352/390

The 406 or the 427 factory headers are a bolt in a 59 chassis, give
Perogi`s a call for price and avaiably. Don`s coustom exhaust in ohio can
fab oem style pipes to fit the headers. This is a better fit than 390gt
headers and no hassle with the bolt flange pattern found on the gt heads.
Garry
- --- On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:58:52 -0800 Antonio Gonella
wrote:

>Hello All,
>I have a 59 Ranchero with a 352. Eventually a 390 will replace it, and I
was
>wondering if there is/was a performance exhaust manifold available (from
>factory, maybe orig. fitted to Hi-Po 390's) that will fit both motors (I
>think they are the same besides displacement). A header would be fine but
I
>cant find one. Does
>anyone make a "block hugger" for FE's?.
>Thanks, Antonio.
>
>
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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 9/16/97 Time: 5:59:15 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:21:33 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: port matching heads - intake

ok, first you must undersdtand that a crossection that goes from small to
large to small is MUCH worse than one that goes from large to small to
large (venturi).
if you gasket match both items to the gasket, this is what most often
happens, and the ports still won't line up properly.

so here goes in abridged format - any questions don't be afraid to ask!

1-trace outline of gasket on heavy paper or thin cardboard (as close to
gasket compressed thickness as you can get)

2-tape "paper gasket" to head and put some rubber cement or rtv or such on
the manifold side of the "gasket".

3-bolt on intake and allow to dry.

4-remove and voila! there is a perfect template of the heads ports on the
manifold. be sure that the tape comes off, not the cement/rtv bond.

5-grind out to fit template and no more!

6-now, reverse the method to place a template of the manifold onto the
heads.

do this after all other machining of parts.
the better the match the better flow - the small gap that exists with the
actual gasket does not matter too much. it should always have a slightly
bigger hole than the ports.

class dismissed ;-)

sleddog

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From: Woody[SMTP:wfriesen worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 1997 4:16 AM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject: Re: 460 intake suggestions

> intakes) you should port match the heads. match the heads to the intake,
> not both parts to the gasket.

Sounds good in theory but how do you know how they match when bolted
together--in other words if you don't use a gasket as the intermediary
reference, how do you match intake port to head runner?

Woody






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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:29:23 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: 428CJ manifold?? Or?

i don't know the worth, but if it is a four hole dual plane it may be a high riser.
if 2 slot dual plane then it may be the sidewinder for the 427 medium riser engines.
the sidewinder may be the more valuable one since it was a 427 part.
any help?

sleddog

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From: sdelanty sonic.net[SMTP:sdelanty sonic.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 5:57 PM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject: 428CJ manifold?? Or?


Sigh. I hate when You do work for people and then they become unable
to pay....

As a consolation prize, the guy let me dig thru his shed full of auto
parts (mostly Ford) and take anything I wanted.

Managed to find a couple useful things for my truck, and also an odd
looking FE intake manifold.

The manifold is cast iron and has larger ports than the 4-bbl FE manifolds
I'm used to. The carb flange sits quite a bit higher than normal.

The casting number is C8OE-9425-C

Is this a CJ428 manifold? If so, what might it be worth?

Thanks,


Steve Delanty







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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:33:38 -0700
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: 428CJ manifold?? Or?

>
> Sigh. I hate when You do work for people and then they become unable
> to pay....
>
> As a consolation prize, the guy let me dig thru his shed full of auto
> parts (mostly Ford) and take anything I wanted.
>
> Managed to find a couple useful things for my truck, and also an odd
> looking FE intake manifold.
>
> The manifold is cast iron and has larger ports than the 4-bbl FE manifolds
> I'm used to. The carb flange sits quite a bit higher than normal.
>
> The casting number is C8OE-9425-C
>
> Is this a CJ428 manifold? If so, what might it be worth?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Steve Delanty
>
Steve: It could be a medium-riser manifold, maybe a High-riser. I will
look in my book this evening and get back to you tomorrow.

One question: It isn't a tunnel-port manifold is it? (oval ports)

marko in vancouver

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:35:43 -0700
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: RE: Dual Exhaust for my 74

On my Dad's 76 crew cab we had dual exhausts installed and they ran on
the passenger side. Crossed over near the bell housing. Exit was
infront of the rear tire. Made the hub cap on that side look really
crappy; after a while the exhaust gases dulled the chrome. It seemed
that the pipes were constantly rusting through. I don't think the pipes
had enough support and resonated while driving causing stress fractures
in the exhaust pipes under the front door. Sounded real good going
through the rich end of town with open pipes late at night though ;o).
I have seen two trucks that had the drivers side pipe on the outside of
the frame rail. Looked like a homespun setup and I don't think it would
be safe because I think that the fuel line runs up to the engine in that
location.
One question about matching the two sides in a dual setup. Would you
want the side servicing the driver's side of the engine to have the
muffler further forward than the passenger side so that both mufflers
are equal distance from the engine?
Just some ideas.

Tom H
76 F-150 Super Cab

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:58:20 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Dual Exhaust for my 74

My 74 F250 has an Auxiliary Gas Tank mounted inside the Frame Rail on
the
drivers side of the truck. There isn't enough room between the Gas Tank
> and
the Drive Shaft to run an exhaust pipe for the drivers side. Anybody
have any
suggestions??

Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:56:19 -0700
From: Tom Hogan
Subject: Re: 460 intake suggestions

Just an idea on port matching. Use thin cardboard (poster board) cut it
slightly larger than the intake manifold surface that mates to the head.
Then ink the mating surface and press the cardboard onto the ink to
transfer an image of the intake ports to the cardboard. Cut out the
intake ports with an exacto knife and then you have a template that
matches the port size of the manifold.


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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:04:04 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: 460 intake suggestions

> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 02:16:22 -0600
> From: Woody
> Subject: Re: 460 intake suggestions

> > intakes) you should port match the heads. match the heads to the
> > intake, not both parts to the gasket.
>
> Sounds good in theory but how do you know how they match when bolted
> together--in other words if you don't use a gasket as the
> intermediary reference, how do you match intake port to head runner?

I was a little curious about that myself?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- - -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:09:33 -0700
From: "deconblu"
Subject: Re: Riddle me this!!!!

Can it be? The one the only Dave Williams! The man who changed me from
plain Jim Strigas to Deacon Blues. Allow me to introduce to the list. The
DoD, Master of Knowledge, Master Engine Builder, Master Jokester, Leader of
the Blind Followers (of which I am one), Are you Rrrrready to Rrrrrrumble
seat. Introducing Dave (The King of Fangle) Williams!
Now for my $.02. The car oil pan is deep in the front and the truck is
deep in the back do to engine placement. I'm not sure on Ford because I've
personally never owned a Ford car with anything bigger than a 4 banger.

May I say your weenie engine comeback was the funniest thing I ever seen! I
would have nominated it for an award but was afraid it would also turn ugly!

Deacon Blues
Visit my Homepage at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/
and http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/
or send me a fan or flame at deconblu....

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