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fordtrucks-digest Monday, September 15 1997 Volume 01 : Number 217



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In this issue:

Re: Seat Cover sources ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: King Pins ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage? ["John F. Bauer III"
RE: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage? [Sleddog
Engine /trans swap in 68 [shoman p3.net]
Need help finding dual master cylinder [Bruce Dunne ]
ex. manifold/header for 352/390 [Antonio Gonella ]
Re: ex. manifold/header for 352/390 [John MacNamara ]
Re: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage? ["Gary, 78 BBB"
Re: Welding and fabrications ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Harmonic Balancer, Pulleyss [Keith Srb ]
Re: Harmonic Balancer, Pulleyss [John MacNamara ]
Re: Harmonic Balancer, Pulleyss [Mike Schwall ]
Re: clutch bolt torque ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Harmonic Balancer, Pulleyss ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Riddle me this!!!! [Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)]
RE: Harmonic Balancer, Pulleyss [DC Beatty ]

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:37:50 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Seat Cover sources
>
> From: jack fleming
> Subject: Seat Cover sources
> > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:11:43 -0400

> sitting on 2x4s atop a welded base) and have purchased an original
> bench seat - however it is in desperate need of new covering, spring
> reconditioning, etc. I've only found one source so far; CI in
> Mass.....I called them 3 weeks ago, they promised a catalogue, but
> no word yet......

Have you contacted any reupolstery places yet? I wanted my 78 redone
and asked for quotes. The bottom was around $200 as I recall and the
back was a little cheaper with repairs and new foam etc.. I'm a
little rusty on the price right now and I think it was actually less
but I'm sure it was not more than that. I've never cared for seat
covers because they won't stay put and never seem to fit right. They
never give you enough extra material to actually wrap under the
edges. If I could find a GOOD seat cover I might be interested
myself but a GOOD one will probably cost almost as much as a
restoration?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:13:19 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: King Pins

> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:59:52 -0400
> From: DC Beatty
> Subject: RE: King Pins

> How much play is considered acceptable in king pins? I imagine that
> there needs to be some space in there for the grease to fill up.
>
> I ask because my truck seems to be wandering a bit. The truck sat

I've mentioned this before but don't mind blabbing so here we are
again :-) Wander is usually caused by binding, not looseness
although if certain parts are loose enough that will cause wandering
as well since it will also undo the alignment. If the alignment is
good but, say, the king pins are a bit loose and everything else is
fairly tight it shouldn't wander unless the king pins are bound up
with dried grease. If it's been sitting you should use some heat to
soften the grease (just enough to soften it, not make it run) and
pump some fresh grease in til it runs out clean. BTW, the pin is
held in the "I" beam and the bushings are in the spindle yoke so heat
the top and bottom of the yoke, again being carefull not to over do
it. Clean up the mess and try it out. Give it a day or two to work
all the tight spots out. If that doesn't free it up so the steering
geometry can self center then maybe the pins need more attention.

The steering box CAN cause wander if it's loose enough but with old
style drag link steering a small amount of play actually helps
prevent wander since it keeps you from influencing the line with
small movements or when hitting bumps etc.. The steering is designed
to center itself so if properly aligned should automatically go in a
straight line with no steering input. If it doesn't then it's not
properly aligned or something is preventing it from finding center
which usually means binding, not looseness (but not always as I
said).

Many people don't realize how much wide tires on crowned roads can
influence the handling and cause wander even when everything
mechanical is perfect. This is where having a good alignment
mechanic comes in handy. Explain what kind of roads you drive on
most of the time and which way it wants to pull and he can "adjust"
the spec to suit your driving patterns. Keep in mind that when you
get on to different surfaces it will have different handling
characteristics with wide tires especially. I had an XR7 Cougar once
that was checked out and found to be right on but it pulled badly on
crowned secondary roads with wide gator backs on it. The Goodrich
> replacement tires were not nearly so bad.

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:26:48 -0400
From: "John F. Bauer III"
Subject: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage?

Group:

Doing a little road testing on my van over the weekend and after getting the
right axles, gears and tires all installed, I believe it never makes it to
third gear. Here is what I know: 77 C6 with transfer case in 2WD high, 30"
tires, 3.54 ratio, 460 engine. With the pedal depressed as if my
grandmother was in the passenger seat (taking it really easy on the
acceleration), I noticed the first to second gear shift occurring about
15mph (sorry, no tach yet), assume I should make it into third about
30-35mph??? but it never happens. Made it to about 45-50mph which major
engine whine and no shift into third. Placed the transmission shift lever
from drive into 2 and noticed the same lack-o-shift into third. Tried
moving between D and 2 at various speeds and noticed no change in shift of
any kind. After driving a few miles and with the engine at good normal
operating temperature, smelled the trans. fluid on the dip stick and it
looked reddish (not black or brown) and smelled the fluid (no burned smell
noticed). Fluid level appeared to be in the normal fill range with the
engine running, trans in park and pretty much level ground.

This is my first serious experience with diagnosing auto trans problems,
always been a manual guy.

I have noticed that where the shift linkage comes from the column to the
trans, there appears to be another level on the C6 about 1.5" above the
before mentioned shift linkage that has a C shaped lever arm with a small
circular knob at the end of the C that seems to move freely between two
positions, always returning to the forward position if left untouched.
There seems to be nothing connected to this C shaped lever. Has some spring
or linkage fallen off this lever that just might be part of my lack-o-third
gear problem? Is it something between the column linkage and this C shaped
lever or is it between the gas pedal and the C lever (as my dad described
used to be a way to kick an old auto into the next gear based on gas pedal
depression)?

If this C shaped level is just for looks, then is there something else I
should be checking? I am scrounging around for books/repair manuals that
can help, but so far no luck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
John
bauerjf ix.netcom.com

96 F150, 302, daily driver
77 E250 4WD, 460, C6, custom van!

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:54:08 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage?

the c shaped lever may be kickdown, i am not sure as i don't use one. but,
all 3 gears are changed through the same shaft on the tranny. check the
linkage - does it move through all positions by hand ? (p-n-r-d-2-1)
then check to see if it moves thru using the shifter. if it is not a
linkage problem then it is possible that it is as minor as a loose bolt
inside, or maybe something worse, but hopefully it is linkage adjustment.

sleddog

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From: John F. Bauer III[SMTP:bauerjf ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 1997 10:26 AM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject: C6 never making it to 3rd, missing shift linkage?

Group:

Doing a little road testing on my van over the weekend and after getting
the
right axles, gears and tires all installed, I believe it never makes it to
third gear. Here is what I know: 77 C6 with transfer case in 2WD high, 30"
tires, 3.54 ratio, 460 engine. With the pedal depressed as if my
grandmother was in the passenger seat (taking it really easy on the
acceleration), I noticed the first to second gear shift occurring about
15mph (sorry, no tach yet), assume I should make it into third about
30-35mph??? but it never happens. Made it to about 45-50mph which major
engine whine and no shift into third. Placed the transmission shift lever
from drive into 2 and noticed the same lack-o-shift into third. Tried
moving between D and 2 at various speeds and noticed no change in shift of
any kind. After driving a few miles and with the engine at good normal
operating temperature, smelled the trans. fluid on the dip stick and it
looked reddish (not black or brown) and smelled the fluid (no burned smell
noticed). Fluid level appeared to be in the normal fill range with the
engine running, trans in park and pretty much level ground.

This is my first serious experience with diagnosing auto trans problems,
always been a manual guy.

I have noticed that where the shift linkage comes from the column to the
trans, there appears to be another level on the C6 about 1.5" above the
before mentioned shift linkage that has a C shaped lever arm with a small
circular knob at the end of the C that seems to move freely between two
positions, always returning to the forward position if left untouched.
There seems to be nothing connected to this C shaped lever. Has some
spring
or linkage fallen off this lever that just might be part of my lack-o-third
gear problem? Is it something between the column linkage and this C shaped
lever or is it between the gas pedal and the C lever (as my dad described
used to be a way to kick an old auto into the next gear based on gas pedal
depression)?

If this C shaped level is just for looks, then is there something else I
should be checking? I am scrounging around for books/repair manuals that
can help, but so far no luck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
John
bauerjf ix.netcom.com

96 F150, 302, daily driver
77 E250 4WD, 460, C6, custom van!









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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:53:09 -0400
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Engine /trans swap in 68

Group,
Havingthis 302 in my f-100 I was wondering what all is needed in
swapping in a 390 in place of the 302...I have a 4 speed(granny 1st)....

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