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Return-Path: Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:44:56 -0600 (MDT) From: owner-fordtrucks-digest To: fordtrucks-digest Subject: fordtrucks-digest V1 #208 Reply-To: fordtrucks Sender: owner-fordtrucks-digest fordtrucks-digest Wednesday, September 10 1997 Volume 01 : Number 208 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 And Older Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Morons at Parts Counters ["Don & Teresa Neighbors" ] re: Attachments ["Payne, Kenneth" ] Re: Morons at Parts Counters ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Re: tranny..... ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] RE: Timing light [Sleddog ] RE: Cleaning fluid soaked brake shoes? [Sleddog ] Re: Screwed My axle HELP!! More info ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Another try on the attachments thing [Randy Collins ] Mail? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Gauge needles [Tom Hogan ] tranny again... [SLaG ] Re: Mail? [BigDogF250 Truck for sale in SC Area [TIDANGO Re: tranny..... ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Re: Attachment test [SARHOG 2WD to 4WD Conversion [Keith Srb ] Converting my 66 and my 74 to Halogen Headlights [Keith Srb Re: Attachment test [marko Re: 2WD to 4WD Conversion ["Gary, 78 BBB" ] Re: Converting my 66 and my 74 to Halogen Headlights [marko Re: Converting my 66 and my 74 to Halogen Headlights ["Gary, 78 BBB" Truck Clubs/Magazines [schrozak RE: 2WD to 4WD Conversion [Keith Srb ] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 06:42:43 -0400 From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors" Subject: Morons at Parts Counters Boy, do I sympathize with anybody that has to endure the boneheads that sometimes are our only hope of finding the right part. I once argued long and strenuously with a parts man at a (Not Ford) dealership about the proper identity of the turn signal switch I had just removed in their parking lot. The lout behind the counter contended it was a park-neutral switch and it would take ten days to get it in. At the end of those ten days I returned to the dealership and found that I'd waited that time for a - you guessed it! - park-neutral switch. Another, much more intelligent actual human being was behind the counter, and he immediately found they had the proper part in stock. AAARRGGHH!! I notice I'm not getting any feedback on a 12 volt conversion on my '54 F-250. Surely somebody has done this? I still would rather use all Ford parts. The idea of using the GM type one-wire alternator just doesn't set right, somehow. Don Neighbors ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:58:09 -0400 From: "Payne, Kenneth" Subject: re: Attachments Randy, It looks like (at least from here) that the attachment problem is solved. What email software are you using and what did you do to solve it? Your hard work may help save others time in the future. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:16:53 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: Morons at Parts Counters > From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors" > Subject: Morons at Parts Counters > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 06:42:43 -0400 > I notice I'm not getting any feedback on a 12 volt conversion on my > '54 > F-250. Surely somebody has done this? I still would rather use all > Ford parts. The idea of using the GM type one-wire alternator just > doesn't set right, somehow. I believe Ford has some one wire designs as well but they are made by Mitsubishi IINM. Take a look in some newer haynes manuals at your local parts house and see what the schematics look like. Seems to me you just bolt in the alternator, hook up the regulator, add a 12 v battery and cross your fingers? (just kidding :-)) The alternator, regulator and battery on older 12v systems are independent from the rest of the system. (new cars have all kinds of stuff hooked into the alternator that have nothing to do with charging) In a 54 the only things likely to complain are the dash gauges and lights, radio, head lights etc.. and maybe the heater fan motor. The starter will handle the 12 v as long as you don't crank too long on it but it's still a good idea to change that out too I guess. Seems to me you could run a few ballast resistors in parallel (to handle the amperage) from the battery to the cab electrical and ignition systems (not the starter!) without changing anything but maybe the starter. All you need to do is get roughly 6 volts to the components that need it, right? Don't have a 54, just throwing out some ideas :-) The swift of foot and slow of wit have more off road experiences - -- Gary -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:19:54 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: tranny..... > Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 19:15:18 -0500 > From: SLaG > Subject: tranny..... > It's about time for a new tranny ...and i have a few questions such > as.... What kind? Do you have to take the engine out ....or can you > get the tranny out from the bottom? You guys with the trannys, give us some details, type and model, engine, vehicle etc. so we can help :-) What do you want it to do for you? What kind of driving are you planning? The swift of foot and slow of wit have more off road experiences - -- Gary -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:10:24 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: Timing light i don't think i will get sunpro stuff anymore. not that the timing light doesn't work well, it does, but it just seema like a cheaply made tool. wish i knew how accurate it is! sleddog - ---------- From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 9:48 AM To: fordtrucks Subject: RE: Timing light > From: Kevin Kemmerer > Subject: RE: Timing light > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:17:49 -0400 > i have a sunpro adjustable timing light. it just has a dial on the I got a sunpro vac gauge and the needle wobbles about 4 lbs if you shake it even gently so I just use it as a "sort of" reference. I don't think I will be buying any more sunpro stuff :-( The autometer > version would have been about $5 more but I would have to wait and I wanted it right now so I took a chance. The swift of foot and slow of wit have more off road experiences - -- Gary -- +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+ | Send posts to fordtrucks | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks-request +-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:21:36 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: Cleaning fluid soaked brake shoes? sounds like it is clean, brakeclean is an excellent cleaner. did you clean the other side equally well? sleddog - ---------- From: JRFiero Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 5:53 PM To: fordtrucks Subject: Cleaning fluid soaked brake shoes? I replaced the front brake cylinders on my '51 recently, and one side was soaking with brake fluid mixed with a little bearing grease. I sat the shoes (nearly new it appears, just arced nicely to the drums) under the parts > cleaner stream while I cleaned everything up, then sprayed them liberally with BrakeClean (sp?). I still get a little grabbing on that side first thing in the morning, and expect I didn't get them clean enough. Besides loosening the death grip on my wallet and springing for some new shoes, any ideas on completing my mission? +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+ | Send posts to fordtrucks | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks-request +-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:38:24 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: Screwed My axle HELP!! More info > From: "Brett McCoy" > Subject: Re: Screwed My axle HELP!! More info > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:59:19 -0500 > A little more information on my axle problem. This is a full > floater axle so the spindle, or what ever you call it on the full > floater, is not removable. This is part of the axle housing. The Haven't had a floater in a while but I thought the spindle bolted on a flange on the housing? Have you tried heating the race to a dull red (not too much) and tapping it to see if it will move? If it's really burned in it could have worn a groove and melted the race to fit so it's now smaller than the surrounding spindle and will have to be cut off. As far as the threads and the race fitting over it, seems like you could give it a shove or tap with a pipe or socket against the race or even a carfully positioned punch to get past the high spot? (gently working it on by tapping with a light hammer and punch? (don't miss!)) BTW, don't do this till the inner race is fixed and the hub is on ready to be installed or you may have trouble getting it back off without damaging it. Once it's on just figure on replacing the housing next time or using a slide hammer to get it back off :-) The swift of foot and slow of wit have more off road experiences - -- Gary -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:35:25 -0600 From: Randy Collins Subject: Another try on the attachments thing To all: Looks like the last post worked. How about this one. Is there an attachment this time? Randy Collins Boise, Idaho rcollins 1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces) Soon to have the following Randy installed options: F250 4WD 460 C-6 Randy, It looks like (at least from here) that the attachment problem is solved. What email software are you using and what did you do to solve it? Your hard work may help save others time in the future. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:06:26 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Mail? If this gets out would someone please return a smiley :-) All my bronco mail is getting bounced? The swift of foot and slow of wit have more off road experiences - -- Gary -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:40:26 -0700 From: Tom Hogan Subject: Gauge needles Quick CHEAP trick for anyone restoring old Ford trucks out there. The appearance of the needles on the gauges can be refreshed using Testors paint for plastic model cars. The needles on my 76 were badly faded and I touched them up with Flourescent Red (A PERFECT MATCH!!). I used aluminum foil to mask the gauge face and hit them with a small model brush. If someone was really careful with the brush they might get away without masking the face. Important tip -- DO NOT touch the face of the gauge. It seems that Ford used some sort of phosphorescent paint for the numbers and it WILL smear (experience by Murphy). I was able to clean it up but it would be easier not to touch the face. This is why I suggested the foil it worked well to block the face and a little piece masked off the center of the speedo needle. Whatever you do don't use masking tape!! If the face smeared when I accidentally touched it I imagine that tape would remove the numbers completely. Any way it was easier than I may have made it sound here and my gauges > look really nice (at least until I get around to installing a full set of VDOs ;0) ). TTFN Tom H 76 Super Cab 390 FE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:19:14 -0500 From: SLaG Subject: tranny again... oops...it's an automatic...forgot to mention that one.... rasberry .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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