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fordtrucks-digest Wednesday, September 10 1997 Volume 01 : Number 207



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In this issue:

RE: parts chimps ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: Plugs, again? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Parts guys [mark heims ]
RE: Dash Lightbulbs [DC Beatty ]
Parts chimps, etc. ["Paul G." ]
tranny..... [SLaG ]
RE: Dash Lightbulbs [pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Research Fabricatio]
California Smog Check Program. [danadeb pacbell.net]
Cleaning fluid soaked brake shoes? [JRFiero aol.com]
Removing paint from rubber parts? [JRFiero aol.com]
Re: Screwed My axle HELP!! More info ["Brett McCoy"
Re: Dash Lightbulbs ["Donald R. Screen" ]
Re: tranny..... ["George Shepherd" ]
Attachment test [Randy Collins ]
Re: Removing paint from rubber parts? ["Kevin" ]

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:02:44 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: parts chimps

> From: Kevin Kemmerer
> Subject: RE: parts chimps
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:50:00 -0400

> the gratefull dead to yanni to bach. there has to be people out
> there that WANT to work as a parts guy, not for the money. but for
> the job. a little understanding of how a car works, would help alot

My mom worked as a registered nurse all her life and at one point,
after many years of service the hospital administration asked them to
work for less pay for the "Nitengale tradition" and because hospital
cost were just too high and she asked him how much he was going to
cut his salary since "We are all in this humanitarian occupation
together aren't we?" and the discussion ended for some unknown reason
:-) (They didn't cut their pay either)

Maybe he expected them to sacrifice something he wasn't willing to
sacrifice himself :-)

I agree that you should do your best at any job you work at but there
has to be some incentive to improve or most people will become
complacent, even quality people. I've even recognized this in myself
under some working conditions and had to fight the tendency.

I protect myself by going to places where I get the service I want or
being prepared with part numbers or vehicles they came from. It
makes life so much easier :-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:06:48 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Plugs, again?

> From: Kevin Kemmerer
> Subject: RE: Plugs, again?
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:01:51 -0400

> plug. as for the side electrode. theoretically it seems better,
> but if they were that good, wouldn't ford or gm or dodge or even
> mercedes use 'em as oem?

Only if it can be done cheaply. If the present plugs work with
current ignition needs they won't go to more expensive ones, trust
me :-) They only need to stay ahead of warantee periods to reduce
costs so it doesn't need to last any longer than that :-(

But you do have to wonder why they aren't offered as an option on
some models, or are they?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 13:10:20 -0600
From: mark heims
Subject: Parts guys

All this talk about parts guys makes me really miss Missouri, I had a
friend that worked at a parts store there. He drove Ford trucks and I
would walk in and tell him what I needed and he'd pull it off the shelf
(most of the time without having to look at the books). Not to mention
the nice discount thing! I now live in Great Falls, Montana and have not
found anywhere near the service I took for granted there. I moved two
years ago and was back visiting last summer, it was nice to walk in
there and have half the counter people call me by name and ask if I
still had "The Great Pumpkin" (it's orange and black, the name fits).

I'm looking for a good source of info on rebuilding a NP435 trans, I'm
tired of it popping out of third gear. Any info would be helpful.

Mark
78 F150 4X4, 400, 35" BFG's, what gas mileage?

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:59:30 -0400
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: Dash Lightbulbs

Not to be a smartass, but is the dimmer turned all the way on
(counter-clockwise). This could be your easy to fix problem.

DC Beatty
1967 F100 352
1974 Maverick 302


I recently replaced all of the dash's light bulbs with standard
bulbs (something like 194's if I remember correctly). The dash is still
way to dim. Are there specialty bulbs that will brighten up the dash
and still fit in the original standard sockets? This question is for my
1974 Ford F100 XLT Ranger. Thanks!

Don
Allen, Texas

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 19:13:23 -0700
From: "Paul G."
Subject: Parts chimps, etc.

What really bugs me is the parts stores have moved everything good
behind the counter, so you have to wait in line to get a simple part,
from shocks to voltage regulator, etc. It's no fun to shop for parts
anymore.

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 19:15:18 -0500
From: SLaG
Subject: tranny.....

Hey...

It's about time for a new tranny ...and i have a few questions
such as....
What kind?
Do you have to take the engine out ....or can you get the tranny out
from the bottom?

It's a 73 bronco...V8 (302 i guess but i'm not real sure about
anything on this truck!!!)

what's the advantage/disadvantage to rebuilding the tranny as opposed to
just getting a whole new one??

thanks for any info ....and please respond by e mail ...as i am very
behind on my list reading.......thanks again....

rasberry aaaa.net
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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 97 20:40:36 EDT
From: pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Research Fabrication)
Subject: RE: Dash Lightbulbs

I went through the same problem on my 1980 Bronco. The dash lights were
never bright enough. I tried the original 194's, different colored bulbs, I
even replaced the rheostat (headlight and dimmer switch). I took the dash
apart so many times I could do it blindfolded. You'll have to pull the
speedo cluster to solve the problem but it's no biggie. If it's an
automatic, just be careful with the cable that controls the park/drive
indicator though. You'll see it when you pull the steering column shroud.
The problem is that Ford put these little colored plastic covers over the
bulbs and they are just too dark to let enough light through. they're on the
inside of the cluster so you'll have to take the clear front off. I tried
drilling small holes in the covers but that won't let enough light through
either. Just pull them off and put new bulbs in when you put it back
together. Don't worry about it being too bright. Hope I helped.

Pat
pharrell bae.uga.edu

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I recently replaced all of the dash's light bulbs with standard
bulbs (something like 194's if I remember correctly). The dash is still
way to dim. Are there specialty bulbs that will brighten up the dash
and still fit in the original standard sockets? This question is for my
1974 Ford F100 XLT Ranger. Thanks!

- --- End Included Message ---

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 18:00:58 -0700
From: danadeb pacbell.net
Subject: California Smog Check Program.

Bellow is the text of an E- Mail I received regarding A California
State Senate Bill, SB_42, that would ease the though and arbitrary Smog
Control standards, we have been living with here in California, for
older vehicles.

If you live in California please write / E-Mail your State Senator,
Assemblymember and The Governor and urge them to vote in favor of this
bill. As owners of older vehicles I am sure that you can all appreciate
the meaning and magnitude of this bill.

Also anyone who lives in a Smog Control State or area might want to
have their representatives review this California Bill and adopt it
there too.


If you don't know how to reach your California Representatives, E-Mail
me directly and I will send you the WWW sites where you can look them
up.

I am in no way endorsing any political person, just the bill. I hope I
have not offended anyone by submitting this.



MEMORANDUM

From: Senator Quentin L. Kopp

To: Supporters of SB 42

Subject: Status of SB 42

I am pleased to report to the many supporters of SB 42
that the bill was approved by the Assembly Appropriations
Committee on September 4, 1997 on a 20-1 vote. The bill now
proceeds to the Assembly Floor for a vote by the full Assembly;
this will occur as early as Tuesday, September 9, 1997.

The Assembly Appropriations Committee adopted amendments
to SB 42 which would freeze the 25 model year and older smog
check exemption for five years, at which time the exemption
would become a "rolling" 30-year exemption. In other words, the
bill's provisions would move the current 1965 exemption year
cutoff forward to 1973 and maintain that exemption year until
2003. The amendments were promulgated by the committee as
changes necessary to move the bill to the Assembly Floor.
Obviously, I prefer the previous version of the bill.
Notwithstanding the amendments, passage of the bill represents a
substantial victory for those backing the bill.

I urge you to continue to convey your support to your
respective representatives in the Assembly and inform Governor
Wilson of your views. We are one step closer, and a large one
at that, to securing the relief embodied in SB 42. Thank you
again for all you have done and are doing.

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:53:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Cleaning fluid soaked brake shoes?

I replaced the front brake cylinders on my '51 recently, and one side was
soaking with brake fluid mixed with a little bearing grease. I sat the shoes
(nearly new it appears, just arced nicely to the drums) under the parts
cleaner stream while I cleaned everything up, then sprayed them liberally
with BrakeClean (sp?). I still get a little grabbing on that side first
thing in the morning, and expect I didn't get them clean enough.
Besides loosening the death grip on my wallet and springing for some new
shoes, any ideas on completing my mission?

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:53:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Removing paint from rubber parts?

Anybody got a surefire method of removing paint from rubber parts? The gas
tank filler tube gasket on my '51, as well as several other rubber parts, was
painted several years ago along with the body. I've tried two new gaskets,
one from Early Ford (didn't even come close to fitting) and one from S&S
(close, using it now), but they don't fit snugly to the body like the one I
removed, which may be original. They orig doesn't look cracked or anything,
just covered with bright red paint. I intend to try progressively harsher
chemicals to soften what I assume is enamel, but I hope somebody's figured it
out for me!

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:59:19 -0500
From: "Brett McCoy"
Subject: Re: Screwed My axle HELP!! More info

A little more information on my axle problem. This is a full floater axle
so the spindle, or what ever you call it on the full floater, is not
removable. This is part of the axle housing. The inner wheel bearing race
is still stuck, (read semi-welded) to the spindle from the bearing blowing
out. The threads are on the end of the axle housing, spindle area.
Normally you would install the drum then the outer bearing and first nut.
Then install the lock washer and outer nut. The problem, when the inner
bearing died it somehow allowed enough movement of the axle shaft to rub on
the housing. The heat from that, I suspect caused the end of the spindle
where the threads and the keyway are to expand slightly near the end. The
old nuts bearly, and I do mean bearly came off in one piece. After running
a threader tool, not a true die, over the threads I can get the nuts to
start fine. Then there is a spot that it is really, really hard to get
them past after this the nut will spin on the rest of the way by hand.
Seems that there is still just a little bit of a high spot for a couple of
threads. While you can muscle the nuts past that point I sure don't want
to do that with the new bearings. I think that if I had a die big enough I
could run this over the threads and that would take care of it but I don't
have one available.

I think the "high" spots can't be much more than about a thousandth of an
inch so I think I will try some light sanding to get the bearing on. If
that doesn't work I guess it will just have to come out and a new housing
goes in. Just hope it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg. Any other ideas
would be great. By the way do any of you know how much loading actually
occurs on the spindle nuts? If this isn't just perfect am I going to have
my right rear wheel come shooting off the first hard corner I go around?

That's an ugly thought.

Thanks
- -Brett

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:43:22 -0500
From: "Donald R. Screen"
Subject: Re: Dash Lightbulbs

DC Beatty wrote:
>
> Not to be a smartass, but is the dimmer turned all the way on
> (counter-clockwise). This could be your easy to fix problem.
>
> DC Beatty

DC...
Yep..I know your not being a smartass...and I know I've had bad days
working on the ol truck..but it is turned up full bright..but still too
dim for me.

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 23:03:11 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: tranny.....

Auto or manual? Most autos are better rebuilt if the rebuilder uses premium
parts. Thats the rub-they don't. Try to find a shop that does drag car
transmissions.



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> From: SLaG
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: tranny.....
> Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 7:15 PM
>
> Hey...
>
> It's about time for a new tranny ...and i have a few questions
> such as....
> What kind?
> Do you have to take the engine out ....or can you get the tranny out
> from the bottom?
>
> It's a 73 bronco...V8 (302 i guess but i'm not real sure about
> anything on this truck!!!)
>
> what's the advantage/disadvantage to rebuilding the tranny as opposed to
> just getting a whole new one??
>
> thanks for any info ....and please respond by e mail ...as i am very
> behind on my list reading.......thanks again....
>
> rasberry aaaa.net
> --
> ࡱ
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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:30:32 -0600
From: Randy Collins
Subject: Attachment test

Ford Folks,

This is another test to see if I have gotten rid of the attachments yet.

If anyone can read this maybe you could post a reply to JRFiero aol.com
about removing paint from the old rubber hose gasket. I think that he will
find that M.E.K. (Methyl Ethyl Keytone) will work nicely for this. M.E.K.
can be purchased at your local paint store. It might not be available to
folks living in California.

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
F250 4WD 460 C-6

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 23:33:02 -0000
From: "Kevin"
Subject: Re: Removing paint from rubber parts?

The paint should flake right off. I don't know of any paint that sticks to
rubber that good.

- -----Original Message-----
From: JRFiero aol.com
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 3:41 AM
Subject: Removing paint from rubber parts?



>Anybody got a surefire method of removing paint from rubber parts? The gas
>tank filler tube gasket on my '51, as well as several other rubber parts,
was
>painted several years ago along with the body. I've tried two new gaskets,
>one from Early Ford (didn't even come close to fitting) and one from S&gS
>(close, using it now), but they don't fit snugly to the body like the one I
>removed, which may be original. They orig doesn't look cracked or
anything,
>just covered with bright red paint. I intend to try progressively harsher....


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