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Return-Path: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 04:00:42 -0600 (MDT) From: owner-fordtrucks-digest To: fordtrucks-digest Subject: fordtrucks-digest V1 #192 Reply-To: fordtrucks Sender: owner-fordtrucks-digest fordtrucks-digest Friday, September 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 192 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 And Older Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: RE: C6 Noise [DC Beatty ] F150 [reedg pilot bearing removal ["Lee Hardy" ] 53 F-100 ["Dennis King" ] Re: pilot bearing removal [sdelanty Re: pilot bearing removal [sdelanty Re: pilot bearing removal [spowel4 Re: pilot bearing removal ["Mark Mech" ] Re: [marko ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:24:10 -0400 From: DC Beatty Subject: RE: C6 Noise Gary, actually tranny pumps can make the exact same noise. I guess it's just a hydraulic pump noise. Mine does it every once in awhile but I hope= that if I ignore it hard enough it will go away. = If you hear the noise and it sounds like it's coming from underneath the truck and turning the steering wheel doesn't change it it may be the tran= ny pump. Hope this helps, DC Beatty1967 F100 352 1974 Maverick 302 a tranny which goes up and down with engine rpm?>>> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:28:06 +0000 From: reedg Subject: F150 Does anyone have a '73 to 78 F150 that came with a 460 as original equipment? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:18:17 -0400 From: "Lee Hardy" Subject: pilot bearing removal To Mike: To easily remove pilot bearing and for about 10 cents, select a straight drift pin that fairly fits into pilot bearing hole, remove it, fill the cavity with WHEEL BEARING grease, packing it completely, insert drift and hit sharply with hammer. The hydraulic pressure will force bearing out undamaged. PS...wear safety goggles in case of splatter. Hope this helps..Lee Hardy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:23:39 -0400 From: "Dennis King" Subject: 53 F-100 I am new to the list. It has been my dream for sometime to have a 53-56 F-100. I have the chance to buy a 53. It's in pretty sad shape. The current owner tried to put it on the road about 10 years ago. He put in a motor, trans, body work, etc. only to see the frame break when he jacked it up to put on his new wheels & tires. (You would have thought he would have checked the frame before dumping all that time and money in it.) Any way my plan is to buy the 53 now, tear it apart and put it in storage for a couple of years until I come up with some extra cash. I would like to pick up a wrecked early 90's F150 short bed (hopefully a Lightning) and use it's frame and running gear. Has any one out there done this type of project? Denny King dking ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:00:37 -0700 From: sdelanty Subject: Re: pilot bearing removal >>OK Guys, need help: >>Well, the flywheel's on the garage floor now and the pilot bearing >>is pressed into the back flange of the crankshaft (damn!). >> >>Looking at it a little bit and poking a little bit with a Big screwdriver, >>it looks like it'll be a SOB to get out. Is there a special tool for this >>(like an inverted gear puller w/ the little hooks pointed out)? >Simple fix. Get a metal rod (steel, brass, etc.) that fits into the pilot >bearing snugly. Fill the hole in the pilot bearing with grease and use a >hammer to drive the grease in. Simple hydraulics. Grease goes in, bearing >comes out - usually :) > >Good luck, > >Mike Yes, I agree with Mike. This is a method I've used to get bearings and bushings out of blind holes many times.. Pack the area behind the bearing and the hole in the bearing as full as possible, try not to leave any air space and drive a snug fitting rod in. (a cut off pilot shaft from a junk tranny is ideal) You may have to remove the rod and add more grease once or twice before the bushing is out. Hydraulics IS cool... Steve Delanty 1971 F100 FE390 (patiently waiting for twin turbo's) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:27:30 -0700 From: sdelanty Subject: Re: pilot bearing removal >There is a tool for pulling a pilot bearing that consists of a threaded >fitting that you screw into the pilot hole and it has a zirk fitting on it. >You then hook your grease gun to it and pump the bearing out with grease. I >believe the tool is under $10.00 and it works well, I've used it. > Yeow! Now that's a cool idea! I've used the "grease and rod" hydraulic method before, but never thought about using a grease zerk. You can get a metric sh!tload of pressure from a good grease gun. Lots of track tensioners on industrial equipment use a hyd cylinder with a grease zerk in it.. I've adjusted scores of them. Never thought about applying it to a blind bearing puller. Hmmm, maybe You *do* learn something new every day. (-: Steve Delanty 1971 F100 FE390 (patiently waiting for twin turbo's) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 23:42:06 -0400 From: spowel4 Subject: Re: pilot bearing removal In , on 09/04/97 at 12:16 PM, "Dave Resch" said: >OK Guys, need help: >After suffering through the last few weeks in our spare car (my wife's >ex-car '84 Escort 1.6 HO - ha ha!) while work kept me too busy to fix the >clutch in my F250/351M/NP435, I've finally pulled everything out of the >truck. >Looking at the Haynes and Chiltons pictures, I thought (kinda hoped, >fingers crossed) that the pilot bearing was pressed into the flywheel >center. Well, the flywheel's on the garage floor now and the pilot >bearing is pressed into the back flange of the crankshaft (damn!). >Looking at it a little bit and poking a little bit with a Big >screwdriver, it looks like it'll be a SOB to get out. Is there a special >tool for this (like an inverted gear puller w/ the little hooks pointed >out)? The old bearing is pretty well hashed, w/ at least 160K miles that >I know of on it, so I don't care about saving it. Is there a way to get >the pilot bearing out w/out a special tool? >Thanks in advance for any advice/help/sympathy. >Dave R. (M-block devotee) >1980 F250 4x4 351M >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+ | >Send posts to fordtrucks >| Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks-request >+-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ You can get a pilot bearing puller from J.C. Whitney for under $20 and it works like a charm. Simply seat claws(jaws?) of puller behind bearing and turn handle until bearing comes out. Easy! -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- spowel4 - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 21:02:51 -0700 From: "Mark Mech" Subject: Re: pilot bearing removal The "tool" I used (Borrowed from a mechanic friend) was no more than a fitting with heavily tapered fine threads and a zirk in the center. Mark Mech 1913 E. El Parque Tempe, Arizona 85282 aerofoam http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~aerofoam/ - ---------- > From: sdelanty > To: fordtrucks > Subject: Re: pilot bearing removal > Date: Thursday, September 04, 1997 8:27 PM > > > >There is a tool for pulling a pilot bearing that consists of a threaded > >fitting that you screw into the pilot hole and it has a zirk fitting on it. > >You then hook your grease gun to it and pump the bearing out with grease. I > >believe the tool is under $10.00 and it works well, I've used it. > > > > Yeow! Now that's a cool idea! > I've used the "grease and rod" hydraulic method before, but never > thought about using a grease zerk. > You can get a metric sh!tload of pressure from a good grease gun. > Lots of track tensioners on industrial equipment use a hyd cylinder > with a grease zerk in it.. I've adjusted scores of them. > Never thought about applying it to a blind bearing puller. > > Hmmm, maybe You *do* learn something new every day. (-: > > > Steve Delanty > 1971 F100 FE390 (patiently waiting for twin turbo's) > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks > | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks-request > +-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 00:50:26 -0700 From: marko Subject: Re: >I was wrong about the tranny in my last post it has a cover on the side but >it looks like the top comes off, so I guess its a top loader. > > Mark Mech > Mark, Sounds like you may have the NP435 4 speed. Does it have a "granny" first gear? If so, then you ought to have little trouble finding a bell housing, in fact there are several in the scraps up here. Look at F250 camper specials, they.... 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