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fordtrucks-digest Thursday, September 4 1997 Volume 01 : Number 191



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In this issue:

RE: Oil pressure and 390FE..... [Kevin Kemmerer ]
RE: cc'ing heads [Kevin Kemmerer ]
pilot bearing removal ["Dave Resch"]
Re: Bleeding Brakes ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: pilot bearing removal [marko helix.net (marko maryniak)]
Re: Bleeding Brakes [John MacNamara ]
Re: pilot bearing removal ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Bleeding Brakes ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Brakes.... ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: rearend/tranny combo's [SuperMagot aol.com]
Re: pilot bearing removal ["Mark Mech" ]
Re: Oil pressure and 390FE..... [Mike Schwall ]
Re: pilot bearing removal [Mike Schwall ]
Re: '64 F100 Rear End Q's [Don Grossman ]
Re: 1937-48 Ford V-8 Engines [Randall679 aol.com]
Re: cc'ing heads [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: Oil pressure and 390FE.... [sdelanty sonic.net]

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:45:08 -0400
From: Kevin Kemmerer
Subject: RE: Oil pressure and 390FE.....

i would try something simple first. you said that the previous owner used
straight 30 wt. it may not have been a detergant oil. what you have now
is. so, your oil may have in it all the crap from before that the old oil
didn't hold in suspension. but it can only hold so much and the rest get
deposited around the oil passages. try changing the oil & filter again.
if you don't mind the couple of bucks to do it. it may take a little time
to "clean out the engine". a detergant oil used after a nondetergant oil
may also clog the oil filter faster. you may find that just swapping in a
new one shows a change. just my $.02
sleddog

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From: Paul[SMTP:psconk znet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 3:41 PM
To: fordtrucks-digest ListService.net
Subject: Oil pressure and 390FE.....

I've got a stock 1975 F250 with 4 speed and above mentioned 390
w/about 100,000 miles. The oil pressure seems to take an abnormally long
time to build up after start. Oil pressure on start up takes approx 05 to
10
sec to begin moving the oil pressure gauge needle(stock gauge w/the engine
> hot or cold). The valve train will do the "no oil" rattle until the gauge
begins to move so I believe the guage is at least correctly giving
indication of oil pressure. The prior owner had used 30w straight weight.
I changed oil to Castrol 20w-50 and Fram PH-8A filter and after the first
start to circulate the fresh oil(05 to10 sec wait for an indication of oil
pressure); every start afterwards oil pressure indication would begin
almost
immediately after start up. I dissasembled the old filter and everything
looked normal and the AC part number crossed with the Fram(what was THAT
doing in there!?!?). The odd thing is that w/200 miles on the new oil, the
oil pressure is again taking 05 to 10 sec for an indication on start up.
Is
this the correct oil filter for the FE engine? Is there an anti-drain on
the engine to prevent oil starvation on startup because the oil filter is
horizontal? Any FE guru's out there have a similar experience? Is this an
indication of a failing oil pump? Is it.....ugh...normal? Any input,
suggestions, theories would be greatly appreciated. I will be connecting a
test fixture to check for low oil pressure before the week is out but it
will probably raise more questions than it answers.


Thanks, a new old Ford truck owner







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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:12:34 -0400
From: Kevin Kemmerer
Subject: RE: cc'ing heads

on my 73 460 heads i cc'd them and they ent between 90-100cc i didnot have
a barret, just a graduated cyl. so i thought some error was expected. from
the factory there is a decent variation, but i do not know how much. any
valve work that was done on the heads previously can change the volume from
cyl. to cyl. if it wasn't done properly. in fact that is one way (seat
cutting) to even up the chamber vulome 'tween cyl.

unless you are going for more than 480 hp or so, i wouln't be concerned.
over that, or over 9.5.1 i would polish the chambers and even out the
volumes (after milling head if required).

10cc will change the compression about a half point around 9:1, and almost
a whole point around 10:1. as the required comp ratio increases, the
difference 10cc's make also increases. at over 11:1, it will change more
than one point.

one point compression change accross the whole motor (8 cyl.s) will change
the power about %4 as a rule of thumb.

check for recessed valves or different valves (with/w.out a small dish) in
the head.

and, some people forget when cc'ing to use the plugs that will be installed
in the engine - as that does change the volume a small amount.

sleddog

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From: jniolon uss.com[SMTP:jniolon uss.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 3:10 AM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net; fordnatics lists.best.com
Subject: cc'ing heads


Gentlemen,

I am rebuilding a '75 Lincoln 460 and have a question about cc'ing the
heads.

The casting #'s are D3VE and D_VE. I wanted to make sure they were
the same and verify the volume, so I borrow a 50 ml Burrette, clean
the heads, drill the plexiglas and start measuring.....

I've done 3 chambers on one head and the read 107cc, 97cc, and 102cc
respectively..somewhat puzzled I switched to the other head and it
read 105cc.

Is this normal for such a wide range ? I installed plugs, saw no
leaks when doing the measuring. Is 10cc a large difference ? What
does this do to compression ratios with such a (large ?) descrepancy ?

Your contributions to my education will be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance

john






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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:16:35 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: pilot bearing removal

OK Guys, need help:

After suffering through the last few weeks in our spare car (my wife's
ex-car '84 Escort 1.6 HO - ha ha!) while work kept me too busy to fix the
clutch in my F250/351M/NP435, I've finally pulled everything out of the
truck.
Looking at the Haynes and Chiltons pictures, I thought (kinda hoped,
fingers crossed) that the pilot bearing was pressed into the flywheel
center. Well, the flywheel's on the garage floor now and the pilot bearing
is pressed into the back flange of the crankshaft (damn!).

Looking at it a little bit and poking a little bit with a Big screwdriver,
it looks like it'll be a SOB to get out. Is there a special tool for this
(like an inverted gear puller w/ the little hooks pointed out)? The old
bearing is pretty well hashed, w/ at least 160K miles that I know of on it,
so I don't care about saving it. Is there a way to get the pilot bearing
out w/out a special tool?

Thanks in advance for any advice/help/sympathy.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)
1980 F250 4x4 351M

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:24:26 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Bleeding Brakes
>
> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:08:07 -0700
> From: John MacNamara
> Subject: Re: Bleeding Brakes
>
> a problem here as the pedal is still mushy. I think I need to check
> into this pressure bleed as I have heard several members mention it

Ok, so how would one pressure bleed the brakes? With the master
cylinder at rest the ports to the resivoir should be open so fluid
could conceiveably be pushed backward through the bleeders but what
equipment would you use? Squeeze bottle? Pump? Another master
cylinder?

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:24:50 -0700
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: pilot bearing removal

>
>OK Guys, need help:
>
>After suffering through the last few weeks in our spare car (my wife's
>ex-car '84 Escort 1.6 HO - ha ha!) while work kept me too busy to fix the
>clutch in my F250/351M/NP435, I've finally pulled everything out of the
>truck.
>Looking at the Haynes and Chiltons pictures, I thought (kinda hoped,
>fingers crossed) that the pilot bearing was pressed into the flywheel
>center. Well, the flywheel's on the garage floor now and the pilot bearing
>is pressed into the back flange of the crankshaft (damn!).
>
>Looking at it a little bit and poking a little bit with a Big screwdriver,
>it looks like it'll be a SOB to get out. Is there a special tool for this
>(like an inverted gear puller w/ the little hooks pointed out)? The old
>bearing is pretty well hashed, w/ at least 160K miles that I know of on it,
>so I don't care about saving it. Is there a way to get the pilot bearing
>out w/out a special tool?
>

I use a cheap ($5) imported dent puller and use light taps all the way
around the hole. Or, you could use a long screw/bolt (insert the head thru
the hole, and put the lip of the head on one side, grip the end of the screw
with a large set of vise grips, and tap the vise grips lightly with a hammer).

Whatever you do, don't whale on the puller as you may mess up the thrust
bearing of the crank.

Oh yeah, use lotsa penetrating oil and don't use heat.

good luck,



marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:44:55 -0700
From: John MacNamara
Subject: Re: Bleeding Brakes
>
Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:08:07 -0700
> > From: John MacNamara
> > Subject: Re: Bleeding Brakes
> >
> > a problem here as the pedal is still mushy. I think I need to check
> > into this pressure bleed as I have heard several members mention it
>
> Ok, so how would one pressure bleed the brakes? With the master
> cylinder at rest the ports to the resivoir should be open so fluid
> could conceiveably be pushed backward through the bleeders but what
> equipment would you use? Squeeze bottle? Pump? Another master
> cylinder?
>
> The swift of foot and slow of wit
> have more off road experiences
>
> -- Gary --
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