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fordtrucks-digest Tuesday, September 2 1997 Volume 01 : Number 184



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In this issue:

Re: fordtrucks, List splits ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: F-350 Brakes [wiandt coastalfcu.org (Larry Wiandt)]
Re: Disk for the rear '73 F100 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: C6 transmission ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: C6 transmission ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 302 front cover ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: F-350 Brakes ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: Vacuum advance Dura spark II dist. ["Gary, 78 BBB"
RE: 1950 F1 [Kevin Kemmerer ]
RE: Murphy's Law [Kevin Kemmerer ]
Re: Murphy's Law ["Mark Mech" ]
Frame Rivets [RICHARD_GARBER HP-USA-om21.om.hp.com]
Brakes, an update ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Brakes, an update [John MacNamara ]

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:48:23 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks, List splits

> From: "Deacon Blue"
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #174
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 14:22:15 -0700

> Ken you want my suggestion go for the Jeep and lets dump
> pea-brained pukes
> like this! I've about had it with some Ford people! Then some are

Deacon Blue, we don't all have the same amount of time to apply to
our mail. I personally have lots of free time and like all the
comments as it keeps me busy so I don't get bored but some are only
interested in info on their own vehicles and don't have time to sort
through all the other non-pertainent mail. There really is a good
break point around 60 or so if I remember correctly and there is a
lot of 70's traffic (by some standards) since these models are more
easily obtained and there are more of them on the road.

I wanted more mail so I subscribed to two lists and it's been working
out for me. By making the lists smaller we all have that option
don't we but the other guys also have less mail which is ok too IMHO
:-)

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 07:52:02 -0400
From: wiandt coastalfcu.org (Larry Wiandt)
Subject: Re: F-350 Brakes
>
I posted a similar thread in the fordtrucks80up list. I have a 93 F350
Crew Cab 4x4 and I have the same concern. I guess that is just the way
the F350 works. I am wondering if there is any aftermarket items that
can be installed to help. For now just keep a bunch of road between our
F350's and the next guy.


Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:15:02 +0000

> From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
> Subject: Re: F-350 Brakes
> >
> > From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
> > Subject: F-350 Brakes
> >
> I drove an '89 F-350 for a couple of months as a service truck. The
> brakes never worked great but when I was loaded down I forgot about
> the brakes and just geared down. I was told that was the way it aways
> was.
>
> > Anyone have experience with a heavily loaded F-350 having weak
> braking? We
> > use a '76 F-350 as a service vehicle. It runs across the scales
> right at
> > 8,000 lbs. Problem is on dry pavement I can stand on the brake with
> both
> > feet without a hint of wheel lock and very long stopping distances.
> My
> > co-workers claim that this was ford's early 'anti-lock' system (g).
> It's
> > o.k. out in the country but makes me very nervous to drive in town
> as there
> > is no such thing as a "panic stop". Booster has been repalced and
> the
> > master cyclinder has been replaced twice.
> > Is this typical braking carrying this weight?
> > What could be wrong? Brakes "feel" normal, just not much power.
> Has
> > always been serviced & repaired by a professional mechanic because
> it is a
> > company vehicle.
> > My '79 F-150 daily driver will stop much shorter even with the extra
> weight
> > of camping trailer and gear.
> >
>

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:54:32 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Disk for the rear '73 F100

> From: "Deacon Blue"
> Subject: Disk for the rear '73 F100
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 18:00:41 -0700

> was looking at a Lincoln with rear disk and was wondering if it
> would bolt on to my 9". The Lincoln had a 9" rear but with coils and
> looked to be a little shorter than the one in my truck. They want
> $120 for the backing plates, calipers, disks and master cylinder. It
> would be well worth the price if it is adaptable. Any thoughts?

This is exactly the prefered set up as I understand it and I'm
looking for the same deal. If I could be where you are right now
you'd have to be quick not to miss that deal by golley! :-) They
might have to auction it to the highest bidder!

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:02:54 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: C6 transmission

> From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 22:28:40 +0000
> Subject: C6 transmission

> Quick question. My C6 transmission will not engage into drive until
> it warms up. I goes into reverse fine. But after it warms up
> everything is fine. Its a '78. Any thoughts? +-------------- Ford

Only a few things prevent high gear from engaging, low fluid, bad
modulator, vac hose to the modulator pulled off or leaking, bad
governor (but then it would never shift even warm), clogged passages
in the transmission due to old, dirty oil etc..

C-6's typically will shift into reverse even when everything else
fails to work. I have used that point to good advantage on many
occasions to get the fluid pumping so it would shift into a forward
gear. I have one that I rebuilt which tends to be sluggish in the
morning and haven't bothered to take a look so still don't know
exactly what's wrong with it but it worked fine once I got it into
gear so I just kept driving it till I took it out and junked the body
it was in. Some day I'll take a look.

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:09:35 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: C6 transmission

> From: SuperMagot aol.com
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 23:53:56 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: C6 transmission

> I put it in I used a floor jack to roll it around on. Apparently I
> bent the pan (only slightly cause I didnot notice) and the clearance
> between the oil pump and the pan was to low. This kept enough fluid
> from being pumped ergo less pressure ergo no shift. It had it fixed
> and havenot had problems since....

Very good point Mike, I had mine in a 75 van converted to 4wd and
wasn't very kind to it. It did have some dents in it but it never
occured to me that they might interfere with oil flow!???

The swift of foot and slow of wit
have more off road experiences

- -- Gary --

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:18:07 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: 302 front cover

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> From: Deacon Blue
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: Re: 302 front cover
> Date: Tuesday, September 02, 1997 1:06 AM
>
> Heat the cover with a propane torch around the bolt area without
heating
> the bolt. This will expand the cover enlarging the holes. keep the flame
> moving and don't get the aluminum red hot. rock it out with a large
standard
> screw driver tapping on the bolt and cover now and then to brake up the
> corrosion. it should come apart in short time!

The following is a stunt done by professionals, don't try it indoors.

> By the way a propane torch is the best way to find vacuum leaks. with
no
> flame and turned on low, with the engine running guide the nozzle around
the
> intake. If you come across a vacuum leak the engine rpm will increase.
after
> your finished there is no mess! $.04 works on pre '73s so this isn't poop
> wasted time! :]
>
> Deacon Blue
> jstrigas worldnet.att.net
> It's here, It's thin. It's under construction. It's my Homepage!
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~jstrigas/Homepage
> or if your a Tbird fan
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Mech
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: 302 front cover
>
>
>
> >I dont think the bolts will come out until I get the cover off. Then
There
> >will be enough meat to grab with vise grips. Is there something that
will
> >actually eat the rust? I have soaked it in liquid wrench and thought
about
> >some acid. I lightly beat on the cover and drove a thin wedge between it
> >and the block but it hasnt budged yet.
> >
> > Mark Mech
> > 1913 E. El Parque
> > Tempe, Arizona 85282
> > aerofoam earthlink.net
> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~aerofoam/
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:23:02 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: F-350 Brakes
>
Did you read the reply that said low vaccume was a problem?

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> From: Larry Wiandt
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: Re: F-350 Brakes
> > Date: Tuesday, September 02, 1997 6:52 AM
>
> I posted a similar thread in the fordtrucks80up list. I have a 93 F350
> Crew Cab 4x4 and I have the same concern. I guess that is just the way
> the F350 works. I am wondering if there is any aftermarket items that
> can be installed to help. For now just keep a bunch of road between our
> F350's and the next guy.
>
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:15:02 +0000
>
> > From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
> > Subject: Re: F-350 Brakes
> > >
> > > From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
> > > Subject: F-350 Brakes
> > >
> > I drove an '89 F-350 for a couple of months as a service truck. The
> > brakes never worked great but when I was loaded down I forgot about
> > the brakes and just geared down. I was told that was the way it aways
> > was.
> >
> > > Anyone have experience with a heavily loaded F-350 having weak
> > braking? We
> > > use a '76 F-350 as a service vehicle. It runs across the scales
> > right at
> > > 8,000 lbs. Problem is on dry pavement I can stand on the brake with
> > both
> > > feet without a hint of wheel lock and very long stopping distances.
> > My
> > > co-workers claim that this was ford's early 'anti-lock' system (g).
> > It's
> > > o.k. out in the country but makes me very nervous to drive in town
> > as there
> > > is no such thing as a "panic stop". Booster has been repalced and
> > the
> > > master cyclinder has been replaced twice.
> > > Is this typical braking carrying this weight?
> > > What could be wrong? Brakes "feel" normal, just not much power.
> > Has
> > > always been serviced & repaired by a professional mechanic because
> > it is a
> > > company vehicle.
> > > My '79 F-150 daily driver will stop much shorter even with the extra
> > weight
> > > of camping trailer and gear.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+
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