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fordtrucks-digest Monday, September 1 1997 Volume 01 : Number 180



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In this issue:

stuck flathead engine ["Lee Hardy" ]
ADMIN: August archive on-line [Ken Payne ]
RE: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179 ["Neal B. Forbes"
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179 ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: Vacuum advance Dura spark II dist. [FOMOCONUT aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179 ["George Shepherd" ]
F-350 Brakes ["Dale and Donna Carmine" ]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179 [Don Grossman ]
Additional Lists [csedgwick snet.net]
Vibration in 3rd gear? [Joe DeLaurentis ]
Re: F-350 Brakes [reedg ns2.cetlink.net]
New Member [FORDTRKNUT aol.com]
Which Welder?? ["Brett McCoy" ]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #174 [WODGES aol.com]
Re: two lists [DWBaile aol.com]
Re: F-350 Brakes ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: Vibration in 3rd gear? ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: 1950 F1 [Ctrucknut aol.com]

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 09:37:33 -0400
From: "Lee Hardy"
Subject: stuck flathead engine

Hi: Read with interest the replies to help you with your stuck flathead
ford engine. Typically, the first thing that sticks in a flathead is the
valves in the guides due to very close tolerances. If it has been sitting
awhile and noone put oil down cylinders before parking it, the rings may
very well be stuck to the cylinders. I suggest removing plugs, and pouring
liberal amount of automatic trans fluid down cylinders. It is an excellent
penetrant and lubricant. Let this set for a few days, and gently either
rock the vehicle back and forth in high gear assuming engine is still in
vehicle. If not, a pry bar between block and flywheel teeth, a little on
each side.If you do get it freed up, pull heads and make sure each valve is
not sticking, as it will soon burn. Again, use lots of automatic trans
fluid. Let me know if I can be of any help. I have many flathead parts and
four barns full of Ford Truck parts should you need anything for your
restoration. Thanks, Lee Hardy

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:42:43 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: August archive on-line

Archives for August are now on-line.
- -Ken
List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:48:47 -0400
From: "Neal B. Forbes"
Subject: RE: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179

Hello all! I have been lurking for awhile and am impressed by the
knowledge here. Maybe someone can answer this question. I have a 54 F100
running a 292 Y-Block. It has stock 3-speed on the column. I want to go
to 4 on the floor. I am told that 54s also came with 4 speed. What is the
tranny model? Is it BW T10? I am also told that early 60s Hi-po Galaxies
had 4speeds and that they are designated BW T10B and that they interchange
with T10, the difference being the 1st gear ratio and the spread between
1st and 2nd. Can anyone comfirm or deny this? Thanks so much for any
help! Neal Forbes


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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:33:51 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179

Yes, they came with a 4 speed. It was a heavy duty 4 speed with what is
often called a "granny" low Low gear. About all it was good for was
crawling and dragging stuff out of the mud. I'd call it a farm,
construction low gear. I had one in a 53 Ford with a 6 cyl. engine. Only
really used it once or twice on the farm. The rest of the time it was
useless.

The code waS 4SYN. Probably of more modern use was the 3 speed overdrive.
Code was 30d.

Really cool would be to put the od part on the back of a 4 speed. Never
thought of that before, Has anyone done it?

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> From: Neal B. Forbes
> To: 'fordtrucks ListService.net'; 'fordtrucks digest'

> Subject: RE: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 10:48 AM
>
> Hello all! I have been lurking for awhile and am impressed by the
> knowledge here. Maybe someone can answer this question. I have a 54
F100
> running a 292 Y-Block. It has stock 3-speed on the column. I want to go

> to 4 on the floor. I am told that 54s also came with 4 speed. What is
the
> tranny model? Is it BW T10? I am also told that early 60s Hi-po
Galaxies
> had 4speeds and that they are designated BW T10B and that they
interchange
> with T10, the difference being the 1st gear ratio and the spread between
> 1st and 2nd. Can anyone comfirm or deny this? Thanks so much for any
> help! Neal Forbes
>
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:44:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: FOMOCONUT aol.com
Subject: Re: Vacuum advance Dura spark II dist.

Gents.. concerning Vaccum Advances..one of the greatest Ford over GM features
I remember first learning is the fact that FoMoCo Dist. Vac Adv's are all
Adjustable, so easy, just using an 1/8" allen wrench long enough to reach in
the vaccum line connection on the advance unit, turn in either direction for
desired amount of advance. Removing the wrench and applying Vaccum with a "
Mighty Vac " in conjunction with a good timing light will allow you to
determine your required adjustements. Our tried a true methed for most street
performance applications is to get a max base timing adjustment and a minumun
vaccum advance adjustment. With no detonation or "spark knock" in all
regimes.

I hope this helps someone

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 14:13:02 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179

I found a reference to the 4 speed for 1954, Ford F Series Pickup by Ludel.
Its a T-98, see picture on page 6. Top loading rail shift. Low-low was 6:1
ratio. Only Low, 2nd and 3rd were syncronized. Low low was square cut
non-syncro.

Nothing like the T10's of later years.

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> From: Neal B. Forbes
> To: 'fordtrucks ListService.net'; 'fordtrucks digest'

> Subject: RE: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 10:48 AM
>
> Hello all! I have been lurking for awhile and am impressed by the
> knowledge here. Maybe someone can answer this question. I have a 54
F100
> running a 292 Y-Block. It has stock 3-speed on the column. I want to go

> to 4 on the floor. I am told that 54s also came with 4 speed. What is
the
> tranny model? Is it BW T10? I am also told that early 60s Hi-po
Galaxies
> had 4speeds and that they are designated BW T10B and that they
interchange
> with T10, the difference being the 1st gear ratio and the spread between
> 1st and 2nd. Can anyone comfirm or deny this? Thanks so much for any
> help! Neal Forbes
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks listservice.net, |
> | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks-request listservice.net |
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:26:52 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: F-350 Brakes

Anyone have experience with a heavily loaded F-350 having weak braking? We
use a '76 F-350 as a service vehicle. It runs across the scales right at
8,000 lbs. Problem is on dry pavement I can stand on the brake with both
feet without a hint of wheel lock and very long stopping distances. My
co-workers claim that this was ford's early 'anti-lock' system (g). It's
o.k. out in the country but makes me very nervous to drive in town as there
is no such thing as a "panic stop". Booster has been repalced and the
master cyclinder has been replaced twice.
Is this typical braking carrying this weight?
What could be wrong? Brakes "feel" normal, just not much power. Has
always been serviced & repaired by a professional mechanic because it is a
company vehicle.
My '79 F-150 daily driver will stop much shorter even with the extra weight
of camping trailer and gear.

Comments?

Dale C.

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:12:48 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #179

George Shepherd wrote:
>
> I found a reference to the 4 speed for 1954, Ford F Series Pickup by Ludel.
> Its a T-98, see picture on page 6. Top loading rail shift. Low-low was 6:1
> ratio. Only Low, 2nd and 3rd were syncronized. Low low was square cut
> non-syncro.
>
> Nothing like the T10's of later years.

Was I asleep at the wheel, "It was the breakthrough of 1953" The same
trany thats in my truck. easily swapable with the t-18 and NP 435.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44

Phase 172: rebuild front suspension

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:56:08 -0700
From: csedgwick snet.net
Subject: Additional Lists

A list for older trucks is ok. But, would there be enough posts to such
a list to make it worthwhile. I've been reading the lists for a while
and it is interesting, and there's always something to learn, so I'm
quite willing to "wade" thru.
Currently: 1948 F-2, 1949 F-6

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:58:29 -0400
From: Joe DeLaurentis
Subject: Vibration in 3rd gear?

Can anybody help with this...My 68 f100 with 4spd and 302 has a nasty
vibration in 3rd gear...Since I start out in 2nd due to the granny 1st
and hit around 25-30 in 3rd I get a vibration that shakes the whole
truck,but get past 30-35 and its smooth sailing...?????
ANYBODY?
Joe

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:15:02 +0000
From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
Subject: Re: F-350 Brakes

> From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
> Subject: F-350 Brakes

I drove an '89 F-350 for a couple of months as a service truck. The
brakes never worked great but when I was loaded down I forgot about
the brakes and just geared down. I was told that was the way it aways
was.

> Anyone have experience with a heavily loaded F-350 having weak braking? We
> use a '76 F-350 as a service vehicle. It runs across the scales right at
> 8,000 lbs. Problem is on dry pavement I can stand on the brake with both
> feet without a hint of wheel lock and very long stopping distances. My
> co-workers claim that this was ford's early 'anti-lock' system (g). It's
> o.k. out in the country but makes me very nervous to drive in town as there
> is no such thing as a "panic stop". Booster has been repalced and the
> master cyclinder has been replaced twice.
> Is this typical braking carrying this weight?
> What could be wrong? Brakes "feel" normal, just not much power. Has
> always been serviced & repaired by a professional mechanic because it is a
> company vehicle.
> My '79 F-150 daily driver will stop much shorter even with the extra weight
> of camping trailer and gear.
>

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:17:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: New Member

Hello fellow FORD pickup owners!! My name is Wayne Grabley and I live in
Clifton, New Jersey. I own a 1979 XLT Ranger Bronco and a 1979 F-350 Ranger
Lariet 4x4. The Bronco is my daily driver with a 3" body lift and a 4"
suspension lift. My "PRIDE & JOY" is a 1979 F-350 Ranger Lariet 4x4 Pickup
which I have been restoring for 7 years. It has every option available for
1979 and them some. I do however need an 8 foot bed for it. (with dual gas
tanks and a passenger side tool box) It bed is the last thing I need for it
and then I can send it to the restoration shop. I plan on lifting it 12" and
slap on 44" Boggers. I do not plan (or want to) on going mud bogging or off
road with it. Reason being is that 7 years of a frame off restoration went
into it!! It will be a nice day pavement pounder type of truck. I have had
my share of bogging and off roading for a lifetime. If I get the urge I'll
just beat on my Bronco. I work as a CAD Draftsman for a machine company
during the day. I have plans later (much later) to design a complete bolt-on
type 4-link suspension system for the F-350. As I look at the frame I think
that I can use all the existing holes in the frame for the brackets. Well
enough of my Blabing!!!!! It feels good to be on such a cool list!!!!!!
Thanks and talk to you later!!! Wayne

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:22:04 -0500
From: "Brett McCoy"
Subject: Which Welder??

Sound to me like many of you that track this list serve do your own body
work and other welding. I am interested in getting a welder. Actually I
already picked up a small arch welder but do not know if I will keep it. I
would like to be able to do some simple body work and maybe some heavier
stuff like making a trailer or something of this sort. A friend of mine
has both a big arch welder and an oxy/acetylene setup. He has done some
body work with both and said he acutely had better success with the arch
welder and a very fine rod. I was looking at a small wire feed but am not
sure if I want to spend three or four hundred on one right now. So here is
where I need your advice. Do I keep the small (70 amp 120 volt) welder?
Do I hold out for a wire feed some day? What would you all do?

Thanks,
- -B

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 23:28:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: WODGES aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #174

Hey Ken
I would love to see your list divided into 3 list. It would help with
some of the reading that has nothing to do with my "78"

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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 04:33:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: DWBaile aol.com
Subject: Re: two lists

Hello,
While I don't think I have posted before, I do have an opinion on whether one
list or two. I have a 1948 F-1, a 1950 F-1; current project, a 1961 F-100
Unibody; next project, a 1976 F-150 Super Cab, a 1978 F-250 Crew Cab Dually
and a 1941 Ford military vehicle that I keep wanting to call a Jeep because
it looks like one, but my military vehicle friend keeps insisting has nothing
to do with a d&%n Jeep, it's a Ford! How's that for a run-on sentence. I
find it nice to only have the one list. I find things in almost every one
that I either use directly, or think about for the next time something goes
wrong.

I too was trying to do the flathead rebuild. I bought the book, found the
parts sources, checked the block for everything I could think of, took the
engine out and found the exhaust valve seats cracked right out to the
manifolds. I have a '74 Maverick donor with a 302/C4/8" posi that I could
use, or I have an International Harvester Diesel that I think would be a hoot
in there. I want it to look stock when complete, but wouldn't a '50 with the
IH turbo Diesel be a hoot. Kinda like a stone aged Power Stroke. What do
you think?

I will await your reply, and please take it easy on me as I am just thinking
out loud at this point. I have not cut anything just yet.
Thanks for your consideration,
Don

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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 04:20:14 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: F-350 Brakes

Are you sure the F-350 has ABS? I don't think so. This is not typical.
Something isn't working properly. Sounds like someone isn't installing the
proper brake lining.

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> From: Dale and Donna Carmine
> To: Ford Trucks
> Subject: F-350 Brakes
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 5:26 PM
>
> Anyone have experience with a heavily loaded F-350 having weak braking?
We
> use a '76 F-350 as a service vehicle. It runs across the scales right at
> 8,000 lbs. Problem is on dry pavement I can stand on the brake with both
> feet without a hint of wheel lock and very long stopping distances. My
> co-workers claim that this was ford's early 'anti-lock' system (g). It's
> o.k. out in the country but makes me very nervous to drive in town as
there
> is no such thing as a "panic stop". Booster has been repalced and the
> master cyclinder has been replaced twice.
> Is this typical braking carrying this weight?
> What could be wrong? Brakes "feel" normal, just not much power. Has
> always been serviced & repaired by a professional mechanic because it is
a
> company vehicle.
> My '79 F-150 daily driver will stop much shorter even with the extra
weight
> of camping trailer and gear.
>
> Comments?
>
> Dale C.
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 04:24:06 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: Vibration in 3rd gear?

Several things come to mind, but the most likely culprit is a bad drive
shaft or u joints. Possibly a bad tail shaft bearing.

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> From: Joe DeLaurentis
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: Vibration in 3rd gear?
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 7:58 PM
>
> Can anybody help with this...My 68 f100 with 4spd and 302 has a nasty
> vibration in 3rd gear...Since I start out in 2nd due to the granny 1st
> and hit around 25-30 in 3rd I get a vibration that shakes the whole
> truck,but get past 30-35 and its smooth sailing...?????
> ANYBODY?
> Joe
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1979 and Older --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks listservice.net, |
> | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks-request listservice.net |
> +-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+

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