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fordtrucks-digest Tuesday, August 26 1997 Volume 01 : Number 170

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In this issue:

High output ["Harvey, Blaine" ]
Re: 68 Ford Brake swap???? [Don Grossman ]
Re: Power Steering Assist, 50 F1 ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 68 Ford Brake swap???? ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: Drum Brakes - Help! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Installing Solid Axle [JonP27604

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Re: 351M to 460 swap ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Brakes, barns and ball joints ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
[none] [terry samek ]
RE: Drum Brakes - Help! [DC Beatty ]
Re: (no subject) [JBair

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Re: High output [Chekerdpst

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Re: Installing Solid Axle ["Kevin" ]
RE: Drum Brakes - Help! [DC Beatty ]
RE: Power Steering Assist, 50 F1 [DC Beatty ]

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:55:00 -0400
From: "Harvey, Blaine"
Subject: High output

PU's definitely had a high-output heater-- my friend's '76 F-150 4-by has
one (it has a plate on dash that says HO heater.)

My 79 F-100 (6) wasn't exactly a sauna but unless you have a big
windchill with very low temperature, it should throw enough heat if it's
working to specs. Being from Ottawa, I always covered the rad for the
winter anyway (custom cardboard box application) and took it off the
first day it overheated in the spring because I forgot all about it.

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:01:54 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: More BTU's please..

> From: sdelanty

sonic.net
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:56:21 -0700
> Subject: More BTU's please..

> Are there any heavier duty heater parts or setups that use a bigger
> core that will fit my '71?

There was a High output heater option as far back as I can remember
on vans but not sure about PU's. The cores are roughly twice as big
and may even fit inside the original housing since most I've seen
have extra room in them but you may need to get the larger housing as
well. You might be able to use a newer one with a little ingenuity
but I'm just guessing. I don't have time to get to junk yards so
can't do the "what If's" I'd like to.

If you're really serious and can get some time to browse the yards
take the measurments of the box and it's outlets and go looking at
vans, they may be close enough to work for you, wish I knew for sure
:-)

- -- Gary Peters --

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> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 20:33:45 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Power Steering Assist, 50 F1

> I would like to add P/S to my '66 F100 4x4 (Dana 30 front axle) I
> also heard about the tpye of power assist cylinder you talked about.
> Is that the best way to go?

The power drag link is a PITA IMHO. If it takes a little more
research to turn up an integral unit that will work it will be well
worth the effort, again IMHO :-)

If the pitman arm is the only problem make a shim to wrap around the
tapered pin on the drag link to take up the slack. I had to do that
on my Van conversion but I used the stock unit in that case with a
drop arm which happened to be made for a 4x4 and I retained the van
linkage. As it turns out the van has linkage in front of the axle so
it all worked out.

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
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- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:32:13 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: Drum Brakes - Help!

> From: Kevin Lindstedt
> Subject: RE: Drum Brakes - Help!
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:52:38 -0500

> Well, I swapped around the linings this past weekend - put the short
> in front, etc... I think the "dragging" problem I have/had (it's
> going away) is due to the linings not matching the radius of the
> drum. My Dad told me that years ago it was common practice to "fit"
> the linings to the drum. The parts store/shop would grind down your
> new linings to match the drum. Has anyone ever heard of this? Is
> it still done today?

If you hypothetically allow .200" stock on the I.D. which would be
.100 on a side you will have a max deflection of only .050" which I
would guess will quickly mold itself to the drum and probably spring
the shoe that much without detracting much from it's stopping power
IMHO :-) Drums use to have more meat in them than they do now and in
some cases there isn't enough material left to take a healthy cut so
the rotors and drums must be discarded anyway.

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..
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Subject: Installing Solid Axle

I am trying something that I would like some input on. While browsing
through my favorite bone yard I came across a 1963 F350 with the one ton
solid axle still under it, complete (except rims), and in good shape. My less
than fertile mind was intrigued and decided that I may be able to come up
with
something to do with it. My answer was to see if it would fit under the front
of my 1965 F100 parts truck and in effect create a 1965 F350 Super Duty (with
dually rear axle added also.)

I stewed on it awhile and did some measuring and decided it would work
with
slight modification to the 1965 frame. I purchased the axle with the springs,
shackles, front-rear hangers, drag link and pitman arm. After drilling and
chiseling plenty of rivets on the 1965 frame I was able to remove all
mounting brackets of the twin I beam suspension, including the spring
pirches. My project is at the stage now where the bare frame is upside down
with the axle/ springs sitting in place and not attached yet. I want to work
out all the details before going any further. Which comes to my main
question. Does anyone have any thoughts about steering linkage? I would like
to do this without using the '63 steering box as that would mean cutting a
hole in the frame which can not be good for strength. Using the stock
steering box may work but it seems the pitman arm will interfere with the
left spring when turning right and going over a bump at the same time (it
could happen.) I would appreciate any thoughts. Thank you and sorry so long
winded.

Jon E. Purut
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1965 F100 SWB Daily Driver
1965 F100 Parts Truck Hoping To Revive As F350 Super Duty
1970 Mustang Fastback
1993 Escort Wagon (wifes car)

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> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:42:06 +0000
> Subject: 351M to 460 swap

> I'm getting ready for the "BIG" swap planned for this weekend.
> Saturday is the "gather the parts" day. I'm putting a 460 from a '77
> Lincoln into a '78 F150 4x4. According to the Ford dealer the 460
> was an option for the '78 F150 so will I be able to use the stock
> 460 motor mounts? Will I have to change oil pans? and boy there sure
> are alot of hoses on that 460. Any last minute advice?

A van oil pan will be required or one for the 4wd vehicle with that
engine. Remember that the heater circuit is the block circulation
path when the thermostat is closed so don't block it off, use jumpers
if you don't hook up the heater right away.

77 460 should be internally balanced so you need the flexplate for
that arrangement, don't use the 335 series flex plate.

Right side (passenger) manifold needs to be the truck version ($193
new) or frame cutting will be necessary and truck exhaust systems
won't bolt up even with frame mods.

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..
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