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fordtrucks-digest Tuesday, August 26 1997 Volume 01 : Number 169



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In this issue:

Re: Drum Brakes - Help! ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
RE: Dana 44 in older 1/2 tons [BULL229 aol.com]
RE: Drum Brakes - Help! [Kevin Lindstedt ]
Re: Pictures & Coils ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Drum Brakes - Help! ["Jim Strigas" ]
RE: peculiar gasoline question [Kevin Kemmerer ]
RE: Drum Brakes - Help! [Kevin Lindstedt ]
Re: More BTU's please.. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Drum Brakes - Help! ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: peculiar gasoline question ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Tranny Grind ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: New Guy, Steering wander ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:51:45 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Drum Brakes - Help!

> From: "Kevin Lindstedt"
> Subject: Drum Brakes - Help!
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:19:45 -0500

> ways. Which is correct: long lining in front (primary shoe), or in
> back (secondary shoe)? I looked at the old linings and the last

As I recall the short one goes in front but the last few sets I've
bought have the same length so who knows? The idea is that the
pressure from the front shoe when going forward will exert a stronger
overall mechanical advantage on the rear shoe causing it to grab
unless you spread the load over a larger area with a larger foot
print against the drum, as I recal :-)

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:37:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: BULL229 aol.com
Subject: RE: Dana 44 in older 1/2 tons

Someone asked for info on putting the newer front end in the 68-72 1/2 tons.
I have done this on my truck (71 4WD shortbed 428 CJ) This gors in easily
if you have experience with this type of work. I recommend using the poly
C-bushings they really tighten up the front end. You will need the tie-rod
assembly to match, the sizes are different. I am not sure how easily it will
match up to the steering box, I changed mine over to the Bronco power box at
the same time. The discs made it stop much nicer, but one thing I didnt like
was that ball joints arent quite as reliable as the old style trunion
bearings. Of course I run 10 inch rims with 35 inch radials, so a smaller
tire might put less side load. Feel free to e-mail me with any questions, I
have done this on 2 trucks.......

Ross Bullock

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:52:38 -0500
From: Kevin Lindstedt
Subject: RE: Drum Brakes - Help!

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You wrote:

>> From: "Kevin Lindstedt"
>> Subject: Drum Brakes - Help!
> >Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:19:45 -0500

> >ways. Which is correct: long lining in front (primary shoe), or in
> >back (secondary shoe)? I looked at the old linings and the last

>As I recall the short one goes in front but the last few sets I've=20
>bought have the same length so who knows? The idea is that the=20
>pressure from the front shoe when going forward will exert a stronger=20
>overall mechanical advantage on the rear shoe causing it to grab=20
>unless you spread the load over a larger area with a larger foot=20
>print against the drum, as I recal :-)

>-- Gary Peters --

Well, I swapped around the linings this past weekend - put the short in =
front, etc... I think the "dragging" problem I have/had (it's going =
away) is due to the linings not matching the radius of the drum. My Dad =
told me that years ago it was common practice to "fit" the linings to =
the drum. The parts store/shop would grind down your new linings to =
match the drum. Has anyone ever heard of this? Is it still done today?

Kevin Lindstedt
1978 F150 Ranger Lariat 460/C6 2wd

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:17:19 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Pictures & Coils

> From: "Jim Strigas"
> Subject: Pictures & Coils
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:23:05 -0700

> Is it Saturday? Where is everyone? FoMoCo must have made Gary
> work today
> ;)

I took 5 days off from thursday and when I left I couldn't get any
mail through due to bouncing from the truck list for some reason so I
quit responding till I got back. I'm back so here's my $ .02 worth
(hope this doesn't bounce):

In my experience there has never been a need for leaf springs on the
independent suspension systems and in fact the swing of the "I"
beams would "pinch" the shakles on a leaf suspension at full
compression etc. so they should all have coils but the live axle 4
wheel drive F-250's and, as they said, F-150 super cabs had leafs due
to using the F-250 chasis AFAIK.

I'm not a new truck expert so I don't know what the TTB's and IFS 4
wheelers have but I suspect for the above reasons they probably have
coils as well?

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 06:30:54 -0700
From: "Jim Strigas"
Subject: Re: Drum Brakes - Help!

No that's not the problem. I remember when they would ark the linings but
that hasn't been legal in decades do to cancer causing materials in the
lining! Did you adjust you parking brake for the new shoes?

Jim Strigas
jstrigas worldnet.att.net
It's here, It's thin. It's under construction. It's my Homepage!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~jstrigas/Homepage
or if your a Tbird fan
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site/tbirdknights/

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Lindstedt
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 5:55 AM
Subject: RE: Drum Brakes - Help!



You wrote:

>> From: "Kevin Lindstedt"
>> Subject: Drum Brakes - Help!
> >Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:19:45 -0500

> >ways. Which is correct: long lining in front (primary shoe), or in
> >back (secondary shoe)? I looked at the old linings and the last

>As I recall the short one goes in front but the last few sets I've
>bought have the same length so who knows? The idea is that the
>pressure from the front shoe when going forward will exert a stronger
>overall mechanical advantage on the rear shoe causing it to grab
>unless you spread the load over a larger area with a larger foot
>print against the drum, as I recal :-)

>-- Gary Peters --

Well, I swapped around the linings this past weekend - put the short in
front, etc... I think the "dragging" problem I have/had (it's going away)....

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