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fordtrucks-digest Sunday, August 24 1997 Volume 01 : Number 166



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In this issue:

Subscription [johnboy popalex1.linknet.net]
RE: New Guy [mcat epix.net]
RE: Power Steering Assist, 50 F1 [mcat epix.net]
Re: New Guy ["Jim Strigas" ]
68 F100 Questiosn.. [Joe DeLaurentis ]
Re: Tranny Grind for Dan Wentz [TNickolson aol.com]
RE: ID of an IFS [jack fleming ]
F-1 vs F-100 [jack fleming ]
Re: did I hear "new tuck"?? [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Power Steering Assist, 50 F1 [OldTrux aol.com]
Re: 68 F100 Questiosn.. [OldTrux aol.com]
351M to 460 Nightmare [reedg ns2.cetlink.net]
Re: peculiar gasoline question ["A. Dalrymple" ]
Re: 351M to 460 Nightmare [JBair webtv.net (Justin Bair)]
Re: 68 F100 Questiosn.. ["George Shepherd" ]
Re: 351M to 460 Nightmare ["George Shepherd" ]

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 08:28:11 -0500
From: johnboy popalex1.linknet.net
Subject: Subscription

Hi Ken, I still am subscribed to the "79 and older" list. We had discussed
getting me on the "newer" list. Has that happened yet? I haven't seen any
posts from that group, Maybe its because there haven't been any or maybe
I'm not subscribed yet. Any help you can provide sure would be appreciated.

Thanks,

John

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 97 09:18:45 PDT
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: New Guy

I had a 75 f250 many yrs ago that wandered as well as wore tires out.
had the alignment checked and rechecked. Finaly my ford parts man found an
obscure bulletin that adressed the problem. Seems that the radius arm
bushings were a softer rubber and would compress under load. When setting
still everything was normal. I replaced the bushings and the truck drove
and handled better than new. Ford changed the compound in the bushings but
never told. The part no was different but the only way to find it at the
time was to read the bulletin. I drove this truck untill 85 and finaly
bought a new one.I still miss the ole gal. Hope this helps.
Garry
- --- On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:08:16 -0600 Adrian Carter
wrote:

>Hello Gang,
>New to the list with a '79 F150 361M/C6. Had this truck since new and
>it has served me well. Still like new. Will get some pictures up on my
>web site as soon as I get them scanned.
>However, my brother Gerry has a '74 F350 460/C6 and has also had this
>from just about new. But, he has always had trouble with it wanting to
>wander from side to side. We have tried many things. For intance, new
>secter shaft and worm gear, all ball joints and bearings are good, new
>Monroe's, it has coil springs and new tires, has been alighned many
>times.
>We have tried solid side bias and radial tires nothing seems to help. We
>have adjusted that steering box until we are blue in the face. It is a
>twin "I" beam and we have inspected it and inspected, all is in good
>shape.
>The truck only has 73k on it. If anyone could give us any suggestions
>would
>be greatly appreciated.
>Also, anyone know of any company from Arkansas who sell/manufactures
>Port
>Fuel Injection Manifolds for the 460CID.
>Thanks,
>
>Adrian VE6AFY
>cartera cuug.ab.ca
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera
>'79 F150 mine since new
>'74 F350/'95 Taurus(Gerry)
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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 8/24/97 Time: 9:18:45 AM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 97 09:41:02 PDT
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: Power Steering Assist, 50 F1

Dan
Got one on my 56, works well. I made mine up from pieces from the
bone yard befor the kits were available. The draglink is the key piece, it
has sensor valve built into it. The kits are easy to install but are
pricey. If you decide to DYO e-mail me for my phone # and I`ll try to waik
you through the needed parts to get.
Garry
- --- On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:04:20 -0700 Dan Wentz
wrote:

>Well, after a failed attempt to put power steering on my truck, I put
back
>the original box today. To say I'm unhappy with it would be an
>understatement. I'm thinking now of putting a power assist kit onto the
>original box. Does anyone have this or even seen it done? I've see
>pictures of it and read descriptions and I don't quite get how it works.
>All the hoses go to the drag link--not sure how that makes power
steering.
>I guess what I basically want to know is how well do these work and are
>they worth $600? Or can they be gotten cheaper than that? Thanks.
>
>~Dan (needs to work them forearms)
>1992 Ford Mustang LX
>1950 Ford F1, 351C-2V
>Check out my F1 page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.GeoCities.com/MotorCity/3623
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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 8/24/97 Time: 9:41:02 AM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 08:22:16 -0700
From: "Jim Strigas"
Subject: Re: New Guy

> I had a 75 f250 many yrs ago that wandered as well as wore tires out.
>had the alignment checked and rechecked. Finaly my ford parts man found an
>obscure bulletin that adressed the problem. Seems that the radius arm
>bushings were a softer rubber and would compress under load. When setting
>still everything was normal. I replaced the bushings and the truck drove
>and handled better than new. Ford changed the compound in the bushings but
>never told. The part no was different but the only way to find it at the
>time was to read the bulletin. I drove this truck untill 85 and finaly
>bought a new one.I still miss the ole gal. Hope this helps.
> Garry


Thank you Garry for this information!
Would you happen to know what years and models this affected? or what
the bulletin was? I realize it was some time ago, and the chances that you
know this things are slim but it may be of help to myself and others! After
replacing the flex coupler in my '73 F100 there was a vast improvement but
that was in comparison to the way it was. Perhaps it could be better! I
still thank you for this and I will look into it for my own truck.

Jim Strigas
jstrigas worldnet.att.net
It's here, It's thin. It's under construction. It's my Homepage!
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or if your a Tbird fan
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 14:11:42 -0400
From: Joe DeLaurentis
Subject: 68 F100 Questiosn..

Just looked at a 1968 F100 4x4..With 302/4spd ..My questions are
1)was the 302 and option???I thought the 360 or 332 was the smallest
v8 for trucks of that year???And the rear isnt a 9" Ford it has
a cover on the back of the housing to access the gears...DANA rear???
ALso it has P/S but no power brakes are power an option???Are parts
hard to find???Is the pedal assembly the same??Also the front axle
dana 30???or 44???Or something totally differnt???I know the truck
has drums on all 4 corners??When did disc appear...Sorry for all
the questions.....
Joe

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 17:16:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: Re: Tranny Grind for Dan Wentz

I had a siminlar problem with my 52. I took everything apart at least two
times and could never find any thing wrong. I finally found the problem when
I had some one depress the clutch while I was looking into the clutch
inspection cover on top of the bell housing. The problem was that the clutch
was never being fully released by the pressure plate. This was caused because
the fly wheel and rebuilt pressure plate had been turned, to get a smooth
surface, and now the clutch relese rod did not have enough adjustment or
horizional movement. My fix was I had a machine build me a longer rod with a
longer threaded portion. I reinstalled the rod and now the clutch will
release completely and my shifting problems have stopped.

Take a look and see if this doesn't help.

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 14:18:46 -0400
From: jack fleming
Subject: RE: ID of an IFS

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Thanks Dan, I'll check it out and let you know......

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From: Dan Wentz[SMTP:dwentz earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 1997 5:55 PM
To: fordtrucks-digest ListService.net
Subject: Re: ID of an IFS

>My recently purchased '54 F-100 has a front-end clip that was grafted on =
>by a previous owner. The steering box has some problems, and I'll =
>probably need to rebuild the front brakes, but I have no idea how to =
>identify what kind of vehicle the IFS came from. Any suggestions on how =
>to proceed? Thanks. Jack

Though I've seen others, the main front clip donors are Mustang II/Pinto,
Plymouth Volare, and Camaro. Hmm...you said you have problems with the
steering *box*? That eliminates Mustang II because that has rack & pinion.
Look at the steering box: if it mounts to the front crossmember then it's
a Volare, if it mounts to the frame then it's a GM. And if you see a
torsion bar under there then it's definitely a Volare. Chances are it's a
Volare just because it's so much more common than the GM.

Hope that helps.

~Dan

1992 Ford Mustang LX
1950 Ford F1, 351C-2V
Check out my F1 page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.GeoCities.com/MotorCity/3623





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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 18:38:00 -0400
From: jack fleming
Subject: F-1 vs F-100

I'm a little confused about parts suppliers for my '54 F-100....looking =
through the half dozen or so parts catalogues I've collected in the past =
few weeks, I find parts for 1953 and later Ford Trucks labeled as F-1 =
rather than F-100.....is this just a space-saving move on the part of =
the printer of the catalogues? Aren't all Ford pickups post 1952 =
designated as F-100, F-200, etc.?

Jack Fleming
'54 F-100
tovesh1 dc.infi.net

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 19:36:00 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: did I hear "new tuck"??

On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 21:55:04 -0400 Ken Payne
writes:

>I'm still trying to convince my wife. She's really got her heart
>set on an older Jeep Grand Cherokee.... Oh no!!!! We've always

hehehe, just tell her how the brake is off center to the gas on the Grand
Cherokee and how some people will miss the brake and step on the gas.

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 20:33:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: Power Steering Assist, 50 F1

>I'm thinking now of putting a power assist kit onto the
> original box. Does anyone have this or even seen it done? I've see
> pictures of it and read descriptions and I don't quite get how it works.
> All the hoses go to the drag link--not sure how that makes power
steering.

I would like to add P/S to my '66 F100 4x4 (Dana 30 front axle) I also heard
about the tpye of power assist cylinder you talked about. Is that the best
way to go?

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 20:44:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: 68 F100 Questiosn..

In a message dated 97-08-24 14:14:03 EDT, you write:


hard to find???Is the pedal assembly the same??Also the front axle
dana 30???or 44??? >>

If you do indeed have drum brakes all around and a dana 30 front end (no ball
joints)
let me know. My '66 4x4 has a single master cyl and I want to replace it
with a dual system. If yours is a dual master cylinder and has drum brakes
all around, I now know what will fit! Please E-mail me at OldTrux AOL.com.

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 20:52:07 +0000
From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
Subject: 351M to 460 Nightmare

Well, at least the 351 is out of the truck. Found out that the guy
that owned it before me welded a few things rather than putting a
bolt back. Like the skid plate over the transmission. And those
little plastic bushings that hold the transmission linkages together
were harder than steel. The motor mounts don't look like they will
work. Does anyone know what motor mounts will allow me to install a
460 from a '77 lincoln town car into a '78 F150 4x4?

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 19:57:37 -0500
From: "A. Dalrymple"
Subject: Re: peculiar gasoline question

DC Beatty wrote:
>
> I know from previous posts that there are some petroleum geniuses out there on
> the list. I have a question:
>
> Last week 5 gallons of 112 octane racing gas accidentally :-) found its way into
> my trucks' gas tank. It seemed from looking at the gas gauge and from driving
> normally that my gas mileage increased dramatically when using this gas
> straight. Is it possible that this gas could *dramatically* increase engine
> efficiency and thus gas mileage? I'm curious.

Yes you get more horses out of each explosion.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:03:41 -0400
From: JBair webtv.net (Justin Bair)
Subject: Re: 351M to 460 Nightmare

Well to make it easy, go to your local performance/ parts store and
order a set of motor mounts from a company called TRANS-DAPT, they
specialize in making adapters for problems such as this. They make 350
swap kits for S-10's any stuff like that.
Happy transformation
Justin

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:00:03 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: 68 F100 Questiosn..

My book shows 302 for Broncos only, check your door label or vin sn should
be F11"A"=240-6cyl,"B"=300-6cyl,"H"=390 v8 and "Y"=360 v8
Vaccume booster and power front disk brakes were options
Don't know other answers.

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> From: Joe DeLaurentis
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: 68 F100 Questiosn..
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 1997 1:11 PM
>
> Just looked at a 1968 F100 4x4..With 302/4spd ..My questions are
> 1)was the 302 and option???I thought the 360 or 332 was the smallest
> v8 for trucks of that year???And the rear isnt a 9" Ford it has
> a cover on the back of the housing to access the gears...DANA rear???
> ALso it has P/S but no power brakes are power an option???Are parts
> hard to find???Is the pedal assembly the same??Also the front axle
> dana 30???or 44???Or something totally differnt???I know the truck
> has drums on all 4 corners??When did disc appear...Sorry for all
> the questions.....
> Joe
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:11:45 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: 351M to 460 Nightmare

Try L&L in Dallas. They seem to be the 460 motor mount king.


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> From: reedg ns2.cetlink.net
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: 351M to 460 Nightmare
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 1997 3:52 PM
>
> Well, at least the 351 is out of the truck. Found out that the guy
> that owned it before me welded a few things rather than putting a
> bolt back. Like the skid plate over the transmission. And those
> little plastic bushings that hold the transmission linkages together
> were harder than steel. The motor mounts don't look like they will
> work. Does anyone know what motor mounts will allow me to install a....


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