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pre61-list Digest Wed, 21 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 062

In This Issue:
How Low Can I Go
drive shaft shortening
49 dist
Re: drive shaft shortening
Re: How Low Can I Go
Classifieds
Re: Classifieds
Re: Classifieds
Timing and dwell
Re: Timing and dwell

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From: "Jack Wart" <jack circleburners.com>
Subject: How Low Can I Go
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:20:58 -0500


Any body got any thoughts on how low you can go with a '52 F-1 that is going
to be a daily driver with a 302 and AOD trans.




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From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:39:10 EST
Subject: drive shaft shortening


Hi Ya'll.
I swapped rear ends and need to shorten my drive shaft. How do I measure for
the correct length? My truck has the two peice shaft with carrier bearing.
Any advice?

Thanks,
Paul

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From: "Stuart Falkner" <sfal ala.net>
Subject: 49 dist
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:54:43 -0600


Sometimes you will run across a set of points that bind in the pivot and
will not close reliably. Try a new set. Remove and examine the points wire
that runs under the point plate. Plate movement will eventually rub the wire
bare in spots. Make sure the plate ground wire is intact (the braided wire
with no insulation)


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: drive shaft shortening
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:35:47 -0800


The most accurate way is to measure between the centers of the bearing cups
at each end (on the sides though not top or bottom) and let the shop know
how you measured it so they can do the calculations themselves.  Put the
carrier bearing sleeve about 1/2 way in it's travel to measure.  IF you
really want Perfection (I know, I know :-)) you should remove the springs
and let the axle set on the nubbers then position the sleeve in the fully
compressed position but this requires that the axle is in the correct
relationship with the chassis of course so leaf springs may pose a problem
for this method.  The point is that you want as much engagement as possible
without ever reaching a point at full suspension compression that the sleeve
bottoms out and puts pressure on the drive shaft but you don't want the dang
thing falling off when you get some air either :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Hi Ya'll.
>  I swapped rear ends and need to shorten my drive shaft. How do I
> measure for
> the correct length? My truck has the two peice shaft with carrier
> bearing.
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul


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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:57:22 -0700
From: Tura Cowan <jeffntura qwest.net>
Subject: Re: How Low Can I Go


       I put a mustang 2 front end ifs in a 52 f-1, with a 351c and a fmx auto.
The front bumper clearence was 5" from the ground.




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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:54:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Whitmore <rswhitmore yahoo.com>
Subject: Classifieds


Ken,

I don't mean to sound too negative, but it looks like the Classifieds section of the Ford-trucks site is dying.  Since the fee to place ads was added, the number of ads on the site has dropped from around 700 to around 500 .  I check the ads daily to see if someone has something I need, or needs something I have to sell.  The smaller, lower priced, items are disappearing along with the ads looking for small parts.  Finding the small hard to find parts is what made the classifieds so usefull.  Maybe reducing the number of ads and activity on the site is what you are looking for, but for the average Ford lover like me the site is not as good as it used to be.  Just my $0.02 .  What do the rest of you think.  Maybe I am the one off base.

                                                                                Bob



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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:16:01 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Classifieds


At 10:54 AM 3/22/01, you wrote:
>----------------------------------------------------------
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>Ken,
>
>I don't mean to sound too negative, but it looks like the Classifieds section of the Ford-trucks site is dying.  Since the fee to place ads was added, the number of ads on the site has dropped from around 700 to around 500 .  I check the ads daily to see if someone has something I need, or needs something I have to sell.  The smaller, lower priced, items are disappearing along with the ads looking for small parts.  Finding the small hard to find parts is what made the classifieds so usefull.  Maybe reducing the number of ads and activity on the site is what you are looking for, but for the average Ford lover like me the site is not as good as it used to be.  Just my $0.02 .  What do the rest of you think.  Maybe I am the one off base.
>
>                                                                                 Bob

Bob,

Two choices:

1. The sponges are gone and only those who feel the site is worth
  something to them are posting ads.  Therefore the number of
  ads has dropped.

2. Keep going down our old path and shut down FTE in 2-3 months.

Or how about this.... allow free ads for those small hard to find
parts but only allow people who pay for viewing access to those
free ads to view them?  Let the non-payers view only the paid
ads.  Since you found the old ad content extremely useful surely
you'd have no objection to paying for it?

Which is it?  Is the site worth something to you?  Is it a) all
take and no give or b) showing a little appreciation for the time
and money involved in the maintenance of the site?

FYI, it costs over $1000/month just for the server and bandwidth.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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From: "fugate51" <fugate51 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Classifieds
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:58:16 -0500


Just a small amount of input here,
I look at the 48-61 clasifieds everyday, When I find something I'm looking
for GREAT! . When I have something to sell, I'll be happy to pay fee, NOT
all of us can be in the buy and sell market at the same time.
MY .02
Sam
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From: "Ken Payne" <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
To: <pre61-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: [pre61-list] Re: Classifieds


> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Support FTE - Check out our store:
> http://www.motorhaven.com/
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> At 10:54 AM 3/22/01, you wrote:
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> >Support FTE - Check out our store:
> >http://www.motorhaven.com/
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Ken,
> >
> >I don't mean to sound too negative, but it looks like the Classifieds
section of the Ford-trucks site is dying.  > >
> >
Bob
>
> Bob,
>
> Two choices:
>
> 1. The sponges are gone and only those who feel the site is worth
>
> 2. Keep going down our old path and shut down FTE in 2-3 months.
>



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From: "Bill Hendrickson" <billjhs bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Timing and dwell
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:45:04 -0800

Ok guys,

I checked the primary wire under the breaker plate, its ok and new, replaced the points, condensor, rotor. The new points still don't touch the cam all the time, only on the high
spots, but the dwell angle checks out ok on the meter, 28 degrees. There is no play in the distributor shaft. After replacing the distributor, I reset timing, etc.. It still misses at
high rpm (2800 and up) and still doesn't develop full power
when driving, just bogs. I do notice now when someone else
is driving that the motor starts to smoke at the same time
it starts to bog. Blue smoke I might add. The compression test shows 85 to 95 in each cylinder except one, number 8
shows 105!!! I am starting to think after all of this that the
motor is just tired and needs a good freshening up???!!!!
Any comments
Bill
1953 f250
Mercury V8


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Timing and dwell
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:11:37 -0800


You can't make a silk purse out of a so........When I was younger I tried to
"Tune" the age out of a lot of engines with no luck.  Even with good
compression there are other factors that can enter into the picture in an
old engine.  The rubbing block should not contact the cam in the center of
it's cycle, otherwise it would keep them open all the time but if what you
mean is that one lobe makes contact and anther one does not then you have
either a worn lobe (unlikely) or a bad bushing in the upper shaft area or a
bad shaft.  It could "Feel" tight and still not be running true.  The other
possibility is the points plate.  Does this dizzy have a vac?  If so the vac
could be moving the points plate and it is not returning or it's bushing is
shot.  I've seen these on old engines that never returned to the same place
twice.  If it was rebuilt the builder may have cut some corners.

I may (sure I did actually) have missed the beginning of this....is this a
flat head or Y block?  53 should be a flat head I would think?  The carbs on
these can be worn out in the throttle shaft area which allows extra air in
to the mixture that is hard to tune out.  I've only run into this a few
times that I was able to verify that it was the culprit but the older the
carb is the more likely this sort of thing can happen.

It's been a long time since I messed with a flat head but plan to make it a
project as soon as I can find the truck I want :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> new, replaced the points, condensor, rotor. The new points still
> don't touch the cam all the time, only on the high
> spots, but the dwell angle checks out ok on the meter, 28
> degrees.

> Bill
> 1953 f250
> Mercury V8


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