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pre61-list Digest Mon, 19 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 060

In This Issue:
Re: Y-block ID
Re: 302 in '52 F-1
y block stuff
Re: Y-block ID
That's My Girl!!
Power Inverter
Re: Power Inverter
Y-Blockl ID

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:08:35 -0700
From: Tura Cowan <jeffntura qwest.net>
Subject: Re: Y-block ID


Erik,
   Look at the oil pan flange on the block.  If   it has the head(s) you can
also check there.  Otherwise I really don't know?
Jeff



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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:44:11 -0800
From: Dan Wentz <dwentz earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 302 in '52 F-1



>Has anybody out there put a 302 in a '52 F-1 with the original straight
>axle?
>
>Any thoughts/ideas about mounts, etc would be appreciated.

I've seen lots of them and it's just the same (except for the dimensions)
as a 351, which I've done.  It's pretty easy.  If you don't need a "pretty"
mount you can get a bolt in tubular mount for about $60.  Ford engines
generally use front sump oil pans, which would be bad with a straight
axle.  5.0 Mustangs have a double sump oil pan which will work well on this
application.  Any aftermarket rear sump pan will work as well.  Exhaust
clearance will be an issue with the stock steering box but there is a wide
enough variety in headers for 302's that you should be able to find
something go get around the steering box.

It's a good swap, but I'd suggest thinking about the fuel injected version
of the 302.  More power and reliability--you just have to learn to like
computers.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Miles Since Last Mishap: 220
1998 Explorer--Pick a recall, any recall.




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From: "Greg Schnakenberg" <greg mail.dntcj.ro>
Subject: y block stuff
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:06:46 +0200


Erik, the y block site is at  http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/yblock/YBLOCK.htm
They have mailout like this one. there are some extremely knowegable guys on
it who can answer all your questions.

it sounds like your motor is from a truck.  trucks were mounted from the
front, whereas cars were mounted the normal way.  y blocks were offered in
trucks until 64, and in cars (as the cheap V8 alternative) until 62.  They
peaked as performance motors in 57 with the 4v 312 t bird engine.  my block
is from a 64 truck, which is not the best, but it'll do.  if yours is a 292,
you can find a 312 crank and grind it down to fit.  it is not a direct swap,
as ford determined that the weak link in the 312 was the size of the crank
journals.  history tells different though, as 312's were famous for cracked
webbing in the crank journals, as a result of the extra material taken away
to accomodate the bigger journal sizes.  292's are much stronger blocks, and
the turned-down 312 crank will give you more cubes.

I have a Y block build up in the plans for after my truck is back on the
road with the 6 banger.  I have been gathering parts for it for a while.  So
far I have a set of the 57 "G" heads, (bigger valves 1.92 intakes/intake
runners/still wimpy ford exhaust runners) and a cast iron 4V intake from
said T-bird.  that intake is the best there is in 4V's and was only offered
in 57, and in 58 on some merc applications.  but not to despair, it was
offered again in the early 60's on some HD truck applications.  I am still
looking for a set of the super-rare Rams horns exhaust manifolds, that look
like early corvette manifolds, only cooler.  I thought of running a 3 duece,
but they dont put out near the performance of a 4V and are obnoxious to
tune.  they are out there though, if you are really into the nostalgia
thing.  the best is the Edelbrock #573

John Murmmert offers a ton of speed stuff for them, of course its all very
pricy.  see his cool website at www.ford-y-block.com

take it easy,

Greg S.


<<<Hey,

   I know a bunch of you guys are into the y-blocks, and I just Aquired one
for free.(the price was right). Now I need some help identifiing the thing.
Where would I locate the casting numbers that would Identify it? I believe
it
to be a early 60's by the type of front motor mount. It has the single
isolator mount in the center, not the dual ones out to the side. But thats
about all I know. Any help would be appreciated.....


thanks in advance
Erik Sawyer

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From: "Gary L. Perry" <glperry fwi.com>
Subject: Re: Y-block ID
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:24:07 -0500


There's a Y-block mailing list just like this one that I was on for awhile.
Check FTE or other Ford sites for the address. It's a weird address I
remember. On the mounts.....Don't ALL Y-blocks mount on front and
bellhousing? The trucks did way up till 64, not sure on how cars did it.
                                                                       "G"
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:19:36 -0500
From: The Neighbors <grover ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Y-block ID


Erik, look for a number above the oil filter OR above the generator
mount. I suspect you will find a number starting with a "B", indicating
it was made in the '50's. While I'm not and expert on this, (Are you out
there Abe or Rick?) I believe the single front motor mount indicates
it's a '54 - '56 truck Y. It could have the bosses for the side motor
mounts, by the way. I'm inclined to believe some did, though a quick
look at my book isn't helping much.
You need James Eickman's "Ford Y-Block," which, for all its flaws, is
still the best source for Y-block info in one place.

Subject: Y-block ID


Hey,

   I know a bunch of you guys are into the y-blocks, and I just Aquired
one
for free.(the price was right). Now I need some help identifiing the
thing.
Where would I locate the casting numbers that would Identify it? I
believe it
to be a early 60's by the type of front motor mount. It has the single
isolator mount in the center, not the dual ones out to the side. But
thats
about all I know. Any help would be appreciated.....


--
Don Neighbors
   '54 F250 Named Grover

   "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
    innaccesible part of the vehicle."

    grover ford-trucks.com

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:26:15 -0500
From: The Neighbors <grover ford-trucks.com>
Subject: That's My Girl!!


My daughter Ami, the ballet dancing car nut who will turn 9 on the
first day of Spring, is teaching herself to identify Ford trucks. She
has expensive tastes, though: The other night she was lusting after a
really sharp F-350 Lariat.
--
Don Neighbors
   '54 F250 Named Grover

   "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
    innaccesible part of the vehicle."

    grover ford-trucks.com

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From: PBRUHN aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:06:15 EST
Subject: Power Inverter

Thinking of putting a radio in the '52 F1 - has anybody had experience with a
power inverter?  Supposed to convert 6 volt positive grd. to 12 volt neg.
grd. - JCWhitney sells them, I know.   Thanks in advance - Bruno



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From: "Greg Mullins" <gmullins naxs.net>
Subject: Re: Power Inverter
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:54:33 -0600


I just got off the telephone with Custom Autosound, I spoke with them about
the inverter. According to them the inverters are simple to use, and do a
great job. They want $59.95 for there piece. How much is the JC Whitney
unit?


Greg
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From: FISHROT1 aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:57:54 EST
Subject: Y-Blockl ID


All right fellas,

   As usual you all pointed me in the right direction. I found the casting
#'s behind the generator and made a rubbing of them, as they were virtually
unreadable. But the # is ECG6015A. I believe according to the websites I have
been on that this is a 55-57 272 block, and the head code is ECL-A which is
supposed to be 55 272 heads. Anymore info or a correction if I am wrong would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for all your alls help.


       Erik Sawyer

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