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pre61-list Digest Sun, 07 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 006

In This Issue:
Re: ADMIN: 2001 Supernationals Info
Re: 9" Rear end
Re: Dash Guages
Re: '51 Ignition switch and door locks???
Need tool info
Re: ADMIN: 2001 Supernationals Info
Fender welting and body panels
Re: rear leaf springs
Re: Need tool info
Re: 9" Rear end
Re: rear leaf springs
Re: 9" Rear end
Re: 9 Inch rear end

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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 08:46:32 -0800
From: Tim Bowman <tkbowman qwest.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: 2001 Supernationals Info


Ken:

Thanks for the info re: staying at Howard Johnson's.  I'm flying into
Knoxville, will I need a car or can I get a taxi from Knoxville to
Pigeon Forge.  It appears that I won't need a car during the 4 days of
the show.  I'm getting excited about the prospect of seeing all those
F100's!

For those who want some understanding of the magnitude of this event, go
to www.f100fever.com and click on the Supernationals link.  LOTS of
photos.

--
Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
tkbowman qwest.net
Website: www.users.qwest.net/~tkbowman
  (Pacific NW Carshow Information & more)

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From: "Stephen Hansen" <shansen ndak.net>
Subject: Re: 9" Rear end
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:11:11 -0600

A 9" rear end from a 67-72 F-100 is a bolt in change for the 48-40 series and probably 51-52 also. The only thing you have to do is set the pinion angle by putting shims between the leaf springs and the axle pad. Some people remove and replace the axle pad also.
Here is mine after the rebuild of the rear end; the only mod that I did was a oil drain plug.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/1950_F-1p3.htm (in the center of the page)
Stephen Hansen
1950 Ford F1
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://sacketttt.tripod.com/1950_F-1.htm



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From: "Stephen Hansen" <shansen ndak.net>
Subject: Re: Dash Guages
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:25:15 -0600

This place can completely repair your speedo, convert to 12V, repaint the gauges to 120 MPH or a higher oil pressure or water temperature and do it in the stock font. It costs about 500$ for the gauge to be completely gone thru, but it will be totally new. Remember when shelling out this kind of money: Ya only have to do it once!
A quote from the Feb 2001 Custom Classic Trucks Ad
'97 Technology
'47 Styling
Interment Conversions
-Chevrolet-GMC-Dodge-Ford
"Keep your original gauges. '30s, '40s '50s and even '60s speedometers and gauges converted with modern movements and calibrations for late model engines."
"The '47-53' Chevrolet/GMC gauges shown above are just samples of what we can do. Notice the 80# oil pressure, 250 degree temp gauge, volt meter and the 120 MPH Speedometer"
"We also do Studebaker, International and Allis-Chalmer. We even do gauges for cars. You ought to see the silver-plated 37 Ford. Stock or custom colors

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.speedometershop.com/

Stephen Hansen
1950 Ford F1
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://sacketttt.tripod.com/1950_F-1.htm
1992 Ford F250
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://sacketttt.tripod.com/my_1992_f-250.htm



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From: "Stephen Hansen" <shansen ndak.net>
Subject: Re: '51 Ignition switch and door locks???
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:26:32 -0600

While the Ignition key doesn't match the door; I bought mine at Sacramento Vintage Ford. They sell dual lock sets
Stephen Hansen
1950 Ford F1
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://sacketttt.tripod.com/1950_F-1.htm
1992 Ford F250
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://sacketttt.tripod.com/my_1992_f-250.htm



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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:18:45 +0000
From: The Toops <toop fnord.nwinfo.net>
Subject: Need tool info


Does anyone know what the tool is called that you need to tighten or
remove the threaded bushings that hold the heater, choke, etc. controls
in place on the dash of the '57 F-100's (and where to find one)?
Judging by the bushings it must be cylindrical to over-ride the control
shaft, with two or four prongs to engage the indents on the bushings.

"el Topo"

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From: "Mike Pacheco" <MIKEPACHECO USWEST.NET>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: 2001 Supernationals Info
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:28:03 -0800


Tim, you lucky devil.... you're going.. That's great.
Maybe I'll see you next year.
Mike Pacheco in Corcord

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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:47 AM
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Subject: [pre61-list] Re: ADMIN: 2001 Supernationals Info



Ken:

Thanks for the info re: staying at Howard Johnson's.  I'm flying into
Knoxville, will I need a car or can I get a taxi from Knoxville to
Pigeon Forge.  It appears that I won't need a car during the 4 days of
the show.  I'm getting excited about the prospect of seeing all those
F100's!

For those who want some understanding of the magnitude of this event, go
to www.f100fever.com and click on the Supernationals link.  LOTS of
photos.

--
Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
tkbowman qwest.net
Website: www.users.qwest.net/~tkbowman
  (Pacific NW Carshow Information & more)



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From: "Stephen Hansen" <shansen ndak.net>
Subject: Fender welting and body panels
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:30:01 -0600

What tips do those of you who have finished their trucks have for the body panels assembly? Currently I have most all the body panels loosely bolted to each other. I don't plan to put the welting in until the final paint; or I start driving it, whichever comes first. Is that a good idea?
As for he rest of the truck, I have some sticky web material gasket stuff I bought from Sacramento Vintage, but it's a pain to work with. Is this stuff necessary between the body panels? Specifically on the 48-50's around the grill and between the fenders such.
Opinions?
Steve
1950 Ford F1
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://sacketttt.tripod.com/1950_F-1.htm
1992 Ford F250
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://sacketttt.tripod.com/my_1992_f-250.htm



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From: "Gary L. Perry" <glperry fwi.com>
Subject: Re: rear leaf springs
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 01:03:15 -0500


Get the better gas-charged shocks like the off-road guys use, will slow
reaction time down alot. Some people put the nylon or ? spring slider
material between each leaf to allow them to slide easier. Sometimes the
lower leaves will wear upper ones where the end and make a step or grooove
that stops the springs from sliding all the way on a bigger bump.
And....those old seats had more springs than padding and over-react after a
big bump, sometimes bouncing a person off the seat into roof if bad enough
bump. I'ld try better shox, Gas.
                                                                       "G"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave and Jenny" <dlewis intergate.ca>
To: <pre61-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: [pre61-list] rear leaf springs


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> Fiesta
>
> I think my truck runs a little rough in the rear.  I'm suspecting there
are
> more leaf springs then I need.  How many do most of you have?  Right now I
> have a stack of 5 springs.  My truck will never have a load in it so I'm
not
> worried about payload, just a nice smooth ride.  The rough ride wouldn't
> come from the shocks would it?  The time I notice is when the rode has
dips,
> not pots holes etc.  It seems that the rear suspension gets compressed and
> then it almost launches the rear of the truck up.  So when the truck comes
> back down the seat belt almost cuts you in half!!  Any thoughts?
>
> Also has anyone seen someone move the rear springs to directly under the
> frame rails.  This would obviously be for tubbing the rearend without
> chopping the frame or going with a four link set up etc.  Any thoughts on
> this method????
>
> Dave
> 53 & 54 Merc
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From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" <DMO1 pge.com>
Subject: Re: Need tool info
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:12:55 -0800


El Topo,

Try Sacramento Vintage Ford.  They have a tool for removing the light switch
nut.  It is cylindrical with two prongs.

Dennis

> ----------
> From: The Toops[SMTP:toop fnord.nwinfo.net]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:18 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [pre61-list] Need tool info
>
>
> Does anyone know what the tool is called that you need to tighten or
> remove the threaded bushings that hold the heater, choke, etc. controls
> in place on the dash of the '57 F-100's (and where to find one)?
> Judging by the bushings it must be cylindrical to over-ride the control
> shaft, with two or four prongs to engage the indents on the bushings.
>
> "el Topo"
>

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:24:01 -0500
From: 47Fred <zelda_1 prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 9" Rear end




Greg Mullins wrote:
>
> I am thinking of doing the same thing to my 51 F1.  The reason I want to do
> it, is to get a higher gear ratio, to make the flat head V8 more
> "streetable". I have yet to find one though.......
>
> > I've heard and read a lot of comments on installing a 9" rear end in
> > the old Ford trucks.  I would imagine it is to make the old trucks
> > run like a car.

 Don't let the 9" reputation get the best of you. That design has a
"baby brother", a 8", that is just as good for many applications, you
won't find a flathead with enough power to break one for example. Also
the newer 8.8" axle deserves a look. These guys are supposed to be every
bit as strong as the 9", are more power efficient, and are less than 30
years old besides which. If you're going to cut and weld to install a
9", it's no harder to go modern.

47Fred

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From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" <DMO1 pge.com>
Subject: Re: rear leaf springs
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:18:04 -0800


Dave,

I can't remember exactly how many springs I have on my 55, but I think it
was less than 5.  I tried several things to smooth the ride.  Removed
several of the springs and the spring was too soft.  Finally went with
rebuilding the bushings, super slide inserts in between the springs and a
good set of shocks.   Now rides very nice in the back .

Dennis 55F100
> ----------
> From: Dave and Jenny[SMTP:dlewis intergate.ca]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:29 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [pre61-list] rear leaf springs
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="Windows-1252"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> Fiesta
>
> I think my truck runs a little rough in the rear.  I'm suspecting there
> are
> more leaf springs then I need.  How many do most of you have?  Right now I
> have a stack of 5 springs.  My truck will never have a load in it so I'm
> not
> worried about payload, just a nice smooth ride.  The rough ride wouldn't
> come from the shocks would it?  The time I notice is when the rode has
> dips,
> not pots holes etc.  It seems that the rear suspension gets compressed and
> then it almost launches the rear of the truck up.  So when the truck comes
> back down the seat belt almost cuts you in half!!  Any thoughts?
>
> Also has anyone seen someone move the rear springs to directly under the
> frame rails.  This would obviously be for tubbing the rearend without
> chopping the frame or going with a four link set up etc.  Any thoughts on
> this method????
>
> Dave
> 53 & 54 Merc
>
>
>
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From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" <DMO1 pge.com>
Subject: Re: 9" Rear end
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:56:52 -0800


Ed,

Most people go with the 9" because of it's strength.  The 9 handles the
horsepower better than a smaller rear end.  Aso, they were  readily
available.  I don't know if that is as true now.  I think the 8.8 is easier
to find now, and someone may know better, but I think suitable for all but
the big horsepower engines.

Dennis
55F100 widabigblock

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> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:27 PM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed E <edbud125 hotmail.com>
> To: <pre61-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:09 PM
> Subject: [pre61-list] 9" Rear end
>
>
> >
> > I've heard and read a lot of comments on installing a 9" rear end in the
> old
> > Ford trucks.  I would imagine it is to make the old trucks run like a
> car.
> > What are the merits of doing a conversion and where could I get
> information
> > on how to do it?
> >
> > Ed and the 49 Effie
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> >
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>

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From: "Vierra, William BGI WAC" <William.Vierra barclaysglobal.com>
Subject: Re: 9 Inch rear end
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:13:47 -0800


My 51 had a 9 Inch rear end in it when I bought it.  I have found it to be
fine for what I need and it seems to have fit in without modification.  I am
not sure about that thought since I did not put it in.

There are I believe three models of the 9 Inch of which two are more common
28 and 32 spline axels I believe.  They have many options and you will need
to know what you are buying.  This web site might help
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ridgenet.net/~biesiade/Fordrears.html
<http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ridgenet.net/~biesiade/Fordrears.html> .

I don't believe you and go wrong with installing that third member.  I don't
know if its true anymore but at one time all Winston Cup cars had to use
Ford 9 inch rear ends regardless of what manufacture of car they were trying
to look like.  That a pretty strong endorsement for the flexibility and
durability of that rear end.

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