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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:03:59 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: pre61-list digest users <listar Reply-to: pre61-list Subject: pre61-list Digest V2001 #14 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Thu, 18 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001 Issue: 014 In This Issue: Mustang II clips Hood and Box Wood Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable? Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable? Bolt Circles Subscription to forum at http://www.ford-trucks.com/cgi-b A/C in the panel Re: Hood and Box Wood Re: Florida Panhandle trip Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable? Re: Parking brake woes....again!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:17:32 -0800 From: Tulio <checker Subject: Mustang II clips Well, today I went to the wrecking yard on the hunt. I was looking for 'treasures' to review for my '50 F-1 restoration. I found they had a Volare and there was also a mustang II. After reviewing the Volare front end I looked at the mustang and noted that the mustang front wheel bolt pattern was quite small comparatively to the F-1. In any case, the suspension seemed quite easily removable in one piece it seemed. The QUESTION I came to was EXACTLY where does one cut off the front clip from the mustang? I noticed there were bars going from the axles towards the rear and fastened to the frame. I take it that those as well must come out? And since they seemed to be attached to some sort of transmission bracket.. does that come out too? I'm wondering if this is the way originally it was done before the premade mustang IFS systems came out. I can also see how the mustang clip would bring the body lower than the Volare. Hmm.. what's the scoop on doing it straight from a mustang II? Of course, I'm concerned to do any modification to ol' Wallace ('50 F-1) in that presently it is all original... but, truly needing complete restoration. I have a '60 presently that has the original front end and I have completely rebuilt the front end and still have that high speed shimmy and rather rigid turning. I also realize that building it as close to original has a more vintage appeal and value. I sympathize with all restorers in that it's a tough call to go stock or cut the frame and go IFS. In any case I'm going to gather as much information as I can before proceeding. TIA. -- Tulio Solorzano '50 F-1 (newest member to the family) '60 F-100 Custom Cab '77 280z, '78 Jeep CJ5 & '79 Harley Sportster ------------------------------ From: "shawn" <shawnwo Subject: Hood and Box Wood Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:14:15 -0800 Have any of you folks had problems with your 1953 to 1956 F100 hood lifting up by the windsheild gradually while driving. I have to get out and push down on both corners every day i drive it. The springs "seem" to be okay, although probably a tad weaker than new :) What is the cure for this headache? Would new rebuilt springs kits solve the problem or is this a common old ford truck problem. No Limits says it happens to them all and buy the reverse tilt kit to fix it. I would rather have the hood open as factory but not lift like it does. Does anyone have the specs for cutting your own wood for the box. on a 1954 F100 Cant afford the precut wood kits they sell in the Restoration Shops. Cheers! ------------------------------ From: "Stephen Hansen" <shansen Subject: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:21:08 -0600 "MY QUESTION IS: Which size bolt circle would be best: 4 1/2 or 4 3/4 ?" Tulio, Sometime in the last 6 months a new kit was offered that has the 5" bolt pattern, just like the rear. That would be the optimum choice, for if you find a 9" rear end it would usually carry the 5" pattern also. This lets you keep your old tires on it for the painting process. I bought the 4 3/4 (I think), then a 9" rear end. I had the rear axle and drums re-drilled to match the new pattern to make sure 1 spare can fit all 4 spot. The rims I bought have 2 size bolt pattern, both the 4 1/2 and the 4 3/4 (I think). If I could have bought the rotors with the 5" pattern (at the time) I would have. Stephen Hansen 1950 Ford F1 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/1950_F-1.htm 1992 Ford F250 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/my_1992_f-250.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:28:59 -0500 From: Gregory Haener <ghaener Subject: Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable? The real question is: What size bolt patttern do you want on all four wheels? Stephen Hansen wrote: > "MY QUESTION IS: Which size bolt circle would be best: 4 1/2 or 4 3/4 ?" > > Tulio, Sometime in the last 6 months a new kit was offered that has the 5" bolt pattern, just like the rear. That would be the optimum choice, for if you find a 9" rear end it would usually carry the 5" pattern also. This lets you keep your old tires on it for the painting process. > I bought the 4 3/4 (I think), then a 9" rear end. I had the rear axle and drums re-drilled to match the new pattern to make sure 1 spare can fit all 4 spot. > The rims I bought have 2 size bolt pattern, both the 4 1/2 and the 4 3/4 (I think). If I could have bought the rotors with the 5" pattern (at the time) I would have. > Stephen Hansen > 1950 Ford F1 > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/1950_F-1.htm > 1992 Ford F250 > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/my_1992_f-250.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:46:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Classic Trucks magazine From: Fred g 454 <fredg454 Hi Michelle, Nice to hear from you. It doesn't surprise me at all that they would want to do an article on your truck. You did a great job. And, there are not many women in the sport that do most of their own work. Come to think of it there are not many men that do most of their own work either. I'll look forward to seeing Barney in there. Thanks again for all the help you gave me with my truck. Fred hotrod'56 > > > There was a picture of my truck in Custom Classic Trucks magazine in the > December issue. It is located on the last page in the readers rides section. > Also there is a blurb about me in the editor's comments section ... ------------------------------ From: "John Harrison" <pnltrk Subject: Bolt Circles Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:46 Tulio, It really depends on what rear you have or plan to install. 5 x 4 3/4 is a GM pattern 5 x 4 1/2 is Ford & Mopar. Ford trucks use a 5 x 5 1/2 bolt pattern. Your best bet would probably be a 8" or 9" ford passenger car rear with a 5 x 4 1/2 bolt pattern. Some of the full size Ford passenger cars used a 5 x 5 bolt pattern. John Harrison '60 f-100 panel delivery _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:54:43 -0500 From: admin Subject: Subscription to forum at http://www.ford-trucks.com/cgi-b Following are new messages posted in the Ford Truck Enthusiasts message board forums. If you have any questions, please use the contact form on the web site. To remove your subscription, visit our Message Board at www.ford-trucks.com, login, view any forum and click the subscription link. If you are subscribed to any of our mailing lists, you receive this message automatically as part of that subscription and it can only be disabled by unsubscribing from the mailing list. 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Does anyone have good or bad experiences with Vintage Air, or any of the others? (I can't think of their names right now) My panel is well insulated, ceiling, walls and floor + doors....the regular F100 units are made for the pickup cabs. My question is, do these units cool really well, or just ok? The reason is that, if they cool a pickup cab really well, by my logic they should cool a big panel at least ok or so. Also, does the interior ventilation system work up to speed, etc.? (Defrosters actually defrost, fan speeds are adequate, etc.) Has anyone a panel with one of these units installed? Feedback? I don't have unlimited funds, so any kind of dual cooling units are out of the question. Any ideas, etc. to save me trial and error would be appreciated. Thanks, Paul Gayda ------------------------------ From: "Kenneth Marty" <kdmarty Subject: Re: Hood and Box Wood Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:23:08 -0700 Shawn, My 55 does the same thing I tried rebuilt hinges did the same just not as bad as mine , sent them back. I will one day put reverse tilt on it. Kenneth 55 F100 Denver CO. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://kdmarty.home.mindspring.com > Have any of you folks had problems with your 1953 to 1956 F100 > hood lifting up by the windsheild gradually while driving. I have to get out and push down on both corners > every day i drive it. The springs "seem" to be okay, although probably a tad weaker than new :) > What is the cure for this headache? Would new rebuilt springs kits solve the problem or is this > a common old ford truck problem. No Limits says it happens to them all and buy the reverse tilt kit to fix it. > I would rather have the hood open as factory but not lift like it does. > > ------------------------------ From: lwblumjr Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:35:54 -0600 Subject: Re: Florida Panhandle trip > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:09:04 -0500 (EST) > From: Winford Rister <fordf100 > Subject: Re: Panhandle Florida Trip > > > Larry: I started to write you off-line, but thought there may be > some > interest from the rest of the group. > > I sent a post sometime in NOvember last year indicating that I was > planning > the trip, and asking if anyone was interested in an 'eyeball visit'. > For > some reason that post never made it. Incidentally, I believe it > would have > been in #216, which never made it to my inbox. > > Anyway, I am a native of Jackson County, Fl,(Marianna) and that's > where we > went, to visit our family. We lived in Pensacola from 1969- 1978. > Very > familiar with the territory. > > If I get the heat/AC working properly, we may take another trip > there in the > truck. > > I think it would be great if there was a list of people here in the > group > that we could contact if we are passing through their home territory > in our > projects. > > Winford Rister > McKinney, Texas > > 54F100 - All Ford. > including... > 92 Mustang 5.0 engine > 70 Mustang c4 trans, radiator > 78 Mustang IFS/power rack > 86 Tbird seats/steering column > 86 Ranger fuel tank > 78 Granada rotors.... Winford, It would appear that I never received #216 or #217. Sorry I missed you. I have been to Marianna, Fl. a few times. Love the State Caverns Park. We used to have family reunions there when I was younger. When you get ready to come this way again, just let me know. If I am not working (shift worker) I may be able to get up with you. Thanks. Larry W. Blum, Jr. Pensacola, Fl. "mailto:lwblumjr "http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.students.uwf.edu/lwb1/homepage.html" Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, the Ark was built by amateurs and the Titanic was built by professionals. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ From: "nunya buziness" <redbulldog Subject: Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:55:27 -0600 I would use the Ch*vy truck pattern because there more wheels to choose from. Good luck Rick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Richard Downing" <richarddowning Subject: Re: Parking brake woes....again!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:56:21 -0500 If you are talking about the parts that are internal to the brake drum with the shoes, etc, I can trace them for you and send them to you if that would be of any help. (I have no scanner.) I am restoring a '51 F-1 and have those parts in storage. Richard Downing ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Moody <zeener96 To: Pre 61 list <pre61-list Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:29 PM Subject: [pre61-list] Parking brake woes....again!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!! > > I cannot figure this out. Can anyone on here please help me!!! > > I was missing the parking brake lever and link from the rear axle of > my 1951 f-1. I ordered replacements from a "wonderful" supplier, and > now think they must be wrong. > > Nothing is ligning up right with the parking brake!!!! > > Does anyone have any information on what other years and types of > vehicles used the same parts??? > > Maybe someone has a picture they could send me of the correct parts?? > > I think my lever is wrong!!!! Someone please help!!!!! > > Dennis > > ===== > Zeener96 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ End of pre61-list Digest V2001 #14 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. Two editions: 1950-1965 and .... 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