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pre61-list Digest Thu, 18 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 014

In This Issue:
Mustang II clips
Hood and Box Wood
Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable?
Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable?
Bolt Circles
Subscription to forum at http://www.ford-trucks.com/cgi-b
A/C in the panel
Re: Hood and Box Wood
Re: Florida Panhandle trip
Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable?
Re: Parking brake woes....again!!!!  SOMEONE PLEASE HELP

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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:17:32 -0800
From: Tulio <checker jps.net>
Subject: Mustang II clips


Well, today I went to the wrecking yard on the hunt.  I was looking for
'treasures' to review for my '50 F-1 restoration.  I found they had a
Volare and there was also a mustang II.  After reviewing the Volare
front end I looked at the mustang and noted that the mustang front wheel
bolt pattern was quite small comparatively to the F-1.  In any case, the
suspension seemed quite easily removable in one piece it seemed.  The
QUESTION I came to was EXACTLY where does one cut off the front clip
from the mustang?  I noticed there were bars going from the axles
towards the rear and fastened to the frame.  I take it that those as
well must come out?  And since they seemed to be attached to some sort
of transmission bracket.. does that come out too?  I'm wondering if this
is the way originally it was done before the premade mustang IFS systems
came out.  I can also see how the mustang clip would bring the body
lower than the Volare.  Hmm..  what's the scoop on doing it straight
from a mustang II?


Of course, I'm concerned to do any modification to ol' Wallace ('50
F-1) in that presently it is all original... but, truly needing complete
restoration.   I have a '60 presently that has the original front end
and I have completely rebuilt the front end and still have that high
speed shimmy and rather rigid turning.  I also realize that building it
as close to original has a more vintage appeal and value.  I sympathize
with all restorers in that it's a tough call to go stock or cut the
frame and go IFS.  In any case I'm going to gather as much information
as I can before proceeding.  TIA.


--
Tulio Solorzano
'50 F-1 (newest member to the family)
'60 F-100 Custom Cab
'77 280z, '78 Jeep CJ5 &
'79 Harley Sportster

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From: "shawn" <shawnwo home.com>
Subject: Hood and Box Wood
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:14:15 -0800

Have any of you folks had problems with your 1953 to 1956 F100
hood lifting up by the windsheild gradually while driving. I have to get out and push down on both corners
every day i drive it. The springs "seem" to be okay, although probably a tad weaker than new  :)
What is the cure for this headache? Would new rebuilt springs kits solve the problem or is this
a common old ford truck problem. No Limits says it happens to them all and buy the reverse tilt kit to fix it.
I would rather have the hood open as factory but not lift like it does.

Does anyone have the specs for cutting your own wood for the box. on a 1954 F100
Cant afford the precut wood kits they sell in the Restoration Shops.

Cheers!



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From: "Stephen Hansen" <shansen ndak.net>
Subject: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:21:08 -0600

"MY QUESTION IS:  Which size bolt circle would be best: 4 1/2 or 4 3/4 ?"

Tulio, Sometime in the last 6 months a new kit was offered that has the 5" bolt pattern, just like the rear. That would be the optimum choice, for if you find a 9" rear end it would usually carry  the 5" pattern also. This lets you keep your old tires on it for the painting process.
I bought the 4 3/4 (I think), then a 9" rear end. I had the rear axle and drums re-drilled to match the new pattern to make sure 1 spare can fit all 4 spot.
The rims I bought have 2 size bolt pattern, both the 4 1/2 and the 4 3/4 (I think). If I could have bought the rotors with the 5" pattern (at the time) I would have.
Stephen Hansen
1950 Ford F1
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:28:59 -0500
From: Gregory Haener <ghaener voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable?


The real question is:  What size bolt patttern do you want on all four wheels?

Stephen Hansen wrote:

> "MY QUESTION IS:  Which size bolt circle would be best: 4 1/2 or 4 3/4 ?"
>
> Tulio, Sometime in the last 6 months a new kit was offered that has the 5" bolt pattern, just like the rear. That would be the optimum choice, for if you find a 9" rear end it would usually carry  the 5" pattern also. This lets you keep your old tires on it for the painting process.
> I bought the 4 3/4 (I think), then a 9" rear end. I had the rear axle and drums re-drilled to match the new pattern to make sure 1 spare can fit all 4 spot.
> The rims I bought have 2 size bolt pattern, both the 4 1/2 and the 4 3/4 (I think). If I could have bought the rotors with the 5" pattern (at the time) I would have.
> Stephen Hansen
> 1950 Ford F1
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/1950_F-1.htm
> 1992 Ford F250
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/my_1992_f-250.htm


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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:46:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Classic Trucks magazine
From: Fred g 454 <fredg454 concentric.net>


Hi Michelle,

Nice to hear from you. It doesn't surprise me at all that they would want to
do an article on your truck. You did a great job. And, there are not many
women in the sport that do most of their own work. Come to think of it there
are not many men that do most of their own work either. I'll look forward to
seeing Barney in there.

Thanks again for all the help you gave me with my truck.

Fred
hotrod'56
>
>
> There was a picture of my truck in Custom Classic Trucks magazine in the
> December issue. It is located on the last page in the readers rides section.
> Also there is a blurb about me in the editor's comments section ...


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From: "John Harrison" <pnltrk hotmail.com>
Subject: Bolt Circles
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:46


Tulio,
  It really depends on what rear you have or plan to install.  5 x 4 3/4 is
a GM pattern   5 x 4 1/2 is Ford & Mopar.  Ford trucks use a 5 x 5 1/2 bolt
pattern.  Your best bet would probably be a 8" or 9"
ford passenger car rear with a 5 x 4 1/2 bolt pattern.  Some of the full
size Ford passenger cars used a 5 x 5 bolt pattern.

John Harrison
'60 f-100 panel delivery
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From: thegman ntelos.net
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:14:24 -0500
Subject: A/C in the panel


I am thinking of coughing up the money and buying one of the custom
mount A/C units complete with the inside air handler box thing for my 54
panel.

Does anyone have good or bad experiences with Vintage Air, or any of the
others?  (I can't think of their names right now)

My panel is well insulated, ceiling, walls and floor + doors....the
regular F100 units are made for the pickup cabs.  My question is, do
these units cool really well, or just ok?

The reason is that, if they cool a pickup cab really well, by my logic
they should cool a big panel  at least ok or so.

Also, does the interior ventilation system work up to speed, etc.?
(Defrosters actually defrost, fan speeds are adequate, etc.)

Has anyone a panel with one of these units installed?  Feedback?
I don't have unlimited funds, so any kind of dual cooling units are out
of the question.
Any ideas, etc. to save me trial and error would be appreciated.

Thanks, Paul Gayda


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From: "Kenneth Marty" <kdmarty mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Hood and Box Wood
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:23:08 -0700


Shawn,
 My 55 does the same thing I tried rebuilt hinges did the same just not as
bad as mine , sent them back. I will one day put reverse tilt on it.

Kenneth 55 F100 Denver CO.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://kdmarty.home.mindspring.com



> Have any of you folks had problems with your 1953 to 1956 F100
> hood lifting up by the windsheild gradually while driving. I have to get
out and push down on both corners
> every day i drive it. The springs "seem" to be okay, although probably a
tad weaker than new  :)
> What is the cure for this headache? Would new rebuilt springs kits solve
the problem or is this
> a common old ford truck problem. No Limits says it happens to them all and
buy the reverse tilt kit to fix it.
> I would rather have the hood open as factory but not lift like it does.
>
>


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From: lwblumjr juno.com
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:35:54 -0600
Subject: Re: Florida Panhandle trip


> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:09:04 -0500 (EST)
> From: Winford Rister <fordf100 usa.com>
> Subject: Re: Panhandle Florida Trip
>
>
> Larry:  I started to write you off-line, but thought there may be
> some
> interest from the rest of the group.
>
> I sent a post sometime in NOvember last year indicating that I was
> planning
> the trip, and asking if anyone was interested in an 'eyeball visit'.
>  For
> some reason that post never made it.  Incidentally, I believe it
> would have
> been in #216, which never made it to my inbox.
>
> Anyway, I am a native of Jackson County, Fl,(Marianna) and that's
> where we
> went, to visit our family.  We lived in Pensacola from 1969- 1978.
> Very
> familiar with the territory.
>
> If I get the heat/AC working properly, we may take another trip
> there in the
> truck.
>
> I think it would be great if there was a list of people here in the
> group
> that we could contact if we are passing through their home territory
> in our
> projects.
>
> Winford Rister
> McKinney, Texas
>
> 54F100 - All Ford.
> including...
> 92 Mustang 5.0 engine
> 70 Mustang c4 trans, radiator
> 78 Mustang IFS/power rack
> 86 Tbird seats/steering column
> 86 Ranger fuel tank
> 78 Granada rotors....

Winford,

It would appear that I never received #216 or #217.  Sorry I missed you.
I have been to Marianna, Fl. a few times.  Love the State Caverns Park.
We used to have family reunions there when I was younger.  When you get
ready to come this way again, just let me know.  If I am not working
(shift worker) I may be able to get up with you.  Thanks.

Larry W. Blum, Jr.
Pensacola, Fl.
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From: "nunya buziness" <redbulldog hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bolt Circles - Which is most advisable?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:55:27 -0600


I would use the Ch*vy truck pattern because there more wheels to choose
from.
Good luck
Rick
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From: "Richard Downing" <richarddowning worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Parking brake woes....again!!!!  SOMEONE PLEASE HELP
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:56:21 -0500


If you are talking about the parts that are internal to the brake drum with
the shoes, etc, I can trace them for you and send them to you if that would
be of any help. (I have no scanner.)  I am restoring a '51 F-1 and have
those parts in storage.
Richard Downing
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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:29 PM
Subject: [pre61-list] Parking brake woes....again!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP
ME!!!!


>
> I cannot figure this out.  Can anyone on here please help me!!!
>
> I was missing the parking brake lever and link from the rear axle of
> my 1951 f-1.  I ordered replacements from a "wonderful" supplier, and
> now think they must be wrong.
>
> Nothing is ligning up right with the parking brake!!!!
>
> Does anyone have any information on what other years and types of
> vehicles used the same parts???
>
> Maybe someone has a picture they could send me of the correct parts??
>
> I think my lever is wrong!!!!  Someone please help!!!!!
>
> Dennis
>
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