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pre61-list Digest Sat, 13 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 010

In This Issue:
Re: Brake flaring tool
Re: '51 Ignition switch and door locks???
OT: Classic Trucks magazine
Viruses
Oil Pan choices for 302
Engine Setback for 302 with Volare IFS
Re: Brake flaring tools
Re: Brake flaring tools
Re: Brake flaring tool
Re: Brake flaring tools
Re: Brake flaring tools
Re: Engine Setback for 302 with Volare IFS
Re: Brake flaring tools

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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:46:53 -0500
From: Gregory Haener <ghaener voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Brake flaring tool


Sears sells one for













Sears sells one for $19.95.  Rigid also makes one, costs about $45.00

Dennis Moody wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a GOOD double flare tool, and where to purchase
> one??
>
> Dennis
>
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From: "Richard Downing" <richarddowning worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: '51 Ignition switch and door locks???
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:41:47 -0500


Once again, contact Glenn Marion, 816.224.5296.  His address is 3616 S.
Sweeney Rd., Grain Valley, MO.  64029
Richard Downing
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
To: <pre61-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:16 PM
Subject: [pre61-list] Re: '51 Ignition switch and door locks???


>
> At 01:56 PM 1/3/01, you wrote:
>
> >I am near completion of my 51 restoration, and am looking for an Ignition
> >switch and door locks that are keyed alike, well, they wouldn't have to
be
> >keyed alike, but it would be very nice. I have tried Carpenter
Productions
> >and was told that I would not find either the ignition switch, or the
door
> >locks. Can anyone point me in the right direction???
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Greg Mullins
> >1951 F1
>
>
>


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From: "Stephen Hansen" <shansen ndak.net>
Subject: OT: Classic Trucks magazine
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:01:50 -0600

I made classic trucks magazine! well sort of. Remember last fall I wrote them about the Ch*vy I saw in New Mexico? The truck featured was lowered, tinted and a paint job. The interior was ruff, the engine not detailed at all and the bedwood was washed out, in bad need of a refinish job. The editor was upset! He accused me of expecting all trucks to be perfect; He said "No Sir, not everyone is as talented, skilled and well off as you, but you best better believe that folks try like heck to do the best they can with what they got" Wow. I'm talented, skilled and well off... I never knew!
He challenge my accusation of using "Trick photography and camera angles" I stand by my original statement, the truck had 3 pictures of the same tire, and the interior, engine and bed shot were in black and white; flaws were well hidden in that medium.
As I struggle to complete my truck, look at all the years involved and look at all the people involved in this group who have spent countless hours cleaning a frame, detailing the engine trying to live up to the standard we have seen in their magazine; and we have a problem. Many of our list readers have nicer trucks that the one featured; Paul Meysembourg, KBaker7180, Randy Selby, Jack Cagle  are all examples of trucks that are better or will be better than the one featured...
And I have a problem
Stephen Hansen
1950 Ford F1
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/1950_F-1.htm
1992 Ford F250
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/my_1992_f-250.htm
2000 Keystone Cougar
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/sacketttt/Camper.htm


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From: "Vierra, William BGI WAC" <William.Vierra barclaysglobal.com>
Subject: Viruses
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:40:50 -0800


The rule on viruses is entirely appropriate.  If more managers of list
servers did this we would all be better off.

If you get removed from the list you can still go to the web site and
participate in the message board forums, etc.  We all have to remember being
on the list is a privilege not a right.  We need to live by the rules.  Its
simple and cheep to get anti-virus software everyone should have it.

You wouldn't drive your truck without oil, don't run your computer without
anti-virus software.



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From: DewayneReding aol.com
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:35:58 EST
Subject: Oil Pan choices for 302

I am installing two Ford 302 engines in two different 1953 Ford F100s.  One
of the trucks has a Volare IFS and the other has the stock front suspension.
I have a pan with a rear sump from a 1985 F150 and a pan from a 1971 van with
the mini sump in front and large sump in the rear.  Hoping at least one of
the pans can be used.

Thanks
Dewayne Reding
53 F100



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From: DewayneReding aol.com
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:43:01 EST
Subject: Engine Setback for 302 with Volare IFS

Anyone have a 302 and a Volare clip?  I need a recommendation on the
placement of the engine.  How far back is best?  I will be using a Volare
U-weld it motor mount kit from Mid-Fifty F100.  Someone better help me, I
took that perfectly good Chevy engine out like you guys said!

Dewayne Reding
53 F100



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From: BOBWOOD536 aol.com
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:20:07 EST
Subject: Re: Brake flaring tools

Dennis,
I've bought two different sets of tools. The first was from JC Whitney, and
wan't much, I got the double flare dies and that was it no instructionsn
nothing. The second set I bought at NAPA I don't remember the price but it
was less then $50. That set was complete with tubing block, double flare dies
and instructions. And i can tell you from  experience to get a couple of
pieces of old line and practice. About half my flares weren't centered. Also
chamfer both the inside and outside of the line.
Hope this helps.
Bob Wood
60 F100
302/C6 (it'll run someday)



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From: "Richard Larsen" <richlars burgoyne.com>
Subject: Re: Brake flaring tools
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:56:09 -0700


I bought one from the tool company that seals everything on a red and white
card, I can't remeber the name.  But the part that clamps around the tubing
has gripping ridges that really bark up the tubing.  About the fourth flare
I made broke the die and no-one knows where I can buy just a die.  So I
would be interseted in a GOOD set also


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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:34:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Dennis Moody <zeener96 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brake flaring tool


Thanks for the info!!!

Dennis
--- Gregory Haener <ghaener voyager.net> wrote:

> Sears sells one for $19.95.  Rigid also makes one, costs about
> $45.00


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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:36:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Dennis Moody <zeener96 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brake flaring tools



--- BOBWOOD536 aol.com wrote:
> Dennis,
> I've bought two different sets of tools. The first was from JC
> Whitney, and
> wan't much, I got the double flare dies and that was it no
> instructionsn


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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:40:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Dennis Moody <zeener96 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brake flaring tools


Well, I bought one today from Lisle tool (packaged on a red and white
card!!).  Is seems to very well made and works well so far.  I made
about 6 flares tonight and only messed up one.

Cost me $53 bucks!!!

The clamp needs to be pretty beefy for the double flare.  That was
the problem with most of the junk I found in stores.  You would
tighten the die and it would just push the tubing out the bottom of
the clamp.

BTW,  the Ridgid tool looks to be by far the best if anyone is still
looking.  I couldn't seem to find one around here.

Dennis
--- Richard Larsen <richlars burgoyne.com> wrote:
>
> I bought one from the tool company that seals everything on a red
> and white
> card, I can't remeber the name.  But the part that clamps around
> the tubing
> has gripping ridges that really bark up the tubing.  About the
> fourth flare
> I made broke the die and no-one knows where I can buy just a die.
> So I
> would be interseted in a GOOD set also
>
>


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From: "Kenneth Marty" <kdmarty mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Setback for 302 with Volare IFS
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:21:10 -0700


Dewayne,
Why would you take out a perfectly good Eng...  even if it was a Chevy
Eng.., but its your truck, I wouldn't let these people tell you what to put
in your truck, Hell I would put the Chevy back in but its not my truck its
yours.  You do what YOU want to do as far as the 302 I have no Idea I have a
Chevy in mine.

Kenneth 55F100 Denver CO.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <DewayneReding aol.com>
To: <pre61-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: [pre61-list] Engine Setback for 302 with Volare IFS


> Anyone have a 302 and a Volare clip?  I need a recommendation on the
> placement of the engine.  How far back is best?  I will be using a Volare
> U-weld it motor mount kit from Mid-Fifty F100.  Someone better help me, I
> took that perfectly good Chevy engine out like you guys said!
>
> Dewayne Reding
> 53 F100
>
>
>


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From: "Richard Larsen" <richlars burgoyne.com>
Subject: Re: Brake flaring tools
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:08:14 -0700



That's the one!  Lisle!  It seemed like it left such ridges on the tubing
that I couldn't get the nut past them. Could be I need some training also.
Seems like there were no instructions whatsoever packaged with mine.  I also
now face the challenge of finding a new die.  I don't relish the idea of
forking out $50-55 every time the little nipple on the die breaks off.  Any
ideas?

> Well, I bought one today from Lisle tool (packaged on a red and white
> card!!).  Is seems to very well made and works well so far.  I made
> about 6 flares tonight and only messed up one.
>
> Cost me $53 bucks!!!
>
> The clamp needs to be pretty beefy for the double flare.  That was
> the problem with most of the junk I found in stores.  You would
> tighten the die and it would just push the tubing out the bottom of
> the clamp.
>
> BTW,  the Ridgid tool looks to be by far the best if anyone is still
> looking.  I couldn't seem to find one around here.



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