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pre61-list Digest Tue, 02 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 001

In This Issue:
Re: which engine for a '58?
Pigeon Forge 2001
Re: 58 engine
Re: removal of valves
Paint Colors
CLUB Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Engine rust
Bed Box
Re: CLUB Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Re: CLUB Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Re: Subject: F....350?
Re: which engine for a '58?
Re: Bed Box

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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:00:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: which engine for a '58?


Steve,
Your engine choice should be based on your planned use
of your truck. I think a 300 I-6 would be a great
upgrade for all around use. It will handle most truck
duties better than a 302 V-8. If you really have to
have a V-8, look for a 351W. The 351W has the most
aftermarket support other than the 302. The 390 FE
engine is also well supported, but not as much or as
cheap as the 351W. The Clevelands and Modifieds are
good, but are limited in aftermarket support. The 4V
versions of the Clevelands do not make good truck
engines. If you need serious power then the 460 should
be your choice.
Before you start, recognize that the cost of
conversion could easily exceed the cost of the
replacement motor. The cheapest conversion will be to
a motor that was offered from the factory in your
truck. Some of the other items that may need to be
changed are:
Motor Mounts
Transmission
Bell Housing
Clutch
Radiator
Exhaust system

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V



>From: steve <spowel4 pop.mindspring.com>
>Subject: which engine for a '58?
>Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:29:13 -0500


>Hopefully I will be putting an engine in my 1958 F100
>sometime this
>year.  I'm having trouble deciding what to put in it
>though.  I've got the
>223 I-6 that was in it to start with and I had pulled
>it out for the
>purpose of a rebuild (which I haven't started yet).
>I also like the idea
>of putting a v8 in it though.  It seems that parts
>for the 223 will
>cost more than for an 8 cylinder.  Any
>thoughts/suggestions about this?




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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 22:11:23 -0800
From: Tim Bowman <tkbowman qwest.net>
Subject: Pigeon Forge 2001


Who's planning to attend Pigeon Forge this May?  If so what is the main
hotel/motel for the FTE group?  I'm making plane reservations to be able
to attend and would like to make accomodation reservations.


--
Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
tkbowman qwest.net
Website: www.users.qwest.net/~tkbowman
  (Pacific NW Carshow Information & more)

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From: BOBWOOD536 aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 06:24:47 EST
Subject: Re: 58 engine

Steve,
I would go with the newer V8. I have a 60 I did the same thing to "pulled the
223 and 4 speed" and put a 302 with a C6 in it. of course the engine went bad
on be so it still isn't on the road. Prices for parts will be cheaper and
easier to get going this route. Just look around for a old beater for the
transplant, that way you will get everthing you need. If you are interested I
have a few pictures of the swap I could E mail you
so you can get a idea of the work involved.
Let me know off list
Bob Wood
BOBWOOD536 aol.com
60 F100
302/C6 (it'll run some day)



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From: "Corry Winchester" <cwinches premierecanada.com>
Subject: Re: removal of valves
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:56:52 -0500


Doug,  did you ever find out how to remove the retainers?

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[mailto:pre61-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Doug Siedsma
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:27 PM
To: ford truck sever
Subject: [pre61-list] removal of valves


Help!
I have a '51 6 cyl. H series...Trying to remove the valves.  I have
found an old valve spring compressor which works fine but cannot figure
out how the retainers are removed. Any of you serious motorheads out
there lend a rookie a hand..The shop manual is of no help in that area
nor an old Chilton's that I have..
Thanks,
Doug

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:36:33 -0600
From: Mark Hendricks <markhendricks oneilhagaman.com>
Subject: Paint Colors


Found the color I want to paint my '50 F-1 with, but don't know if it's
Glen Mist Green, Meadow Green (original colors), or something else.
It's on page 56 of Don Bunn's "Ford F-Series Pickup Trucks, 1948-1956".
Anybody have an idea of what this color is called?  What color is the
truck on Page 62?


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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 13:23:09 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: CLUB Ford Truck Enthusiasts


Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to announce an all new club for
its members:   Club FTE

Club FTE was created in order to help the enthusiast go beyond the
typical Internet automotive community experience.

Its goals:
 1. Provide its members with added benefits (listed later in this
    email).
 2. Facilitate both on-line and off-line participation on a local,
    national and international level.
 3. Support the interests of our members in a friendly atmosphere.
 4. Preserve the Ford truck, van and SUV hobby and tradition.
 5. Provide club sponsored activities.
 6. Provide public awareness.
 7. Communicate issues of concern to its members.

Its benefits:
 1.  FTE T-Shirt (optional)
 2.  FTE Bumper sticker.
 3.  Group Purchase Discounts (first group purchase will be
     announced later this week)
 4.  Your own web site featuring:
       20 megabytes of web space, no banner ads, online web page
       editor, no knowledge of HTML is required to edit pages,
       template based page designer for new users, user insertable
       page counter and guestbook, users can upload their own files
       via their web browser, create page templates for users to
       select from, upload and edit HTML files online, comprehensive
       user guide, tutorial and context sensitive help. Advanced
       features include support for tables, META tags and style
       sheets.
 5.  Access to members only section of the message boards.
 6.  Your web site listed in a membership site guide.
 7.  Submission of your web site to major search engines.
 8.  Email account. This is a POP email account, you can use the
     email software of your choice and will not have to use web
     based email. You have a choice of the following domain names:
        clubfte.com               ford-trucks.net
        escapeowners.com          fordtrucker.com
        excursionowners.com       fordtruckers.com
        explorerowners.com        fordtruckforum.com
        f100owners.com            rangerowners.com
        f150owners.com            supercrewowners.com
        ford-truckers.com         superdutyowners.com
 9.  Quarterly Newsletter
 10. Subscription to a member's only e-mail list. This e-mail list
     is used to supply SEMA legislative alerts, club announcements,
     etc.
 11. Listing in the member and truck registry.
 12. Membership card.
 13. Special privileges at the FTE Cruise-In (being planned at this
     moment).
 14. Local chapter registries and web sites, complete with message
     boards.
 15. More features are planned and will be added as membership grows.


For more information and/or to join:

<a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.clubfte.com/">http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.clubfte.com/</a>

Current AFTE members will receive a pro-rated membership to Club
FTE.  AFTE members should contact me off the list if they wish to
join Club FTE.

Regards,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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From: "Bob Jones" <bobj pmihwy.com>
Subject: Engine rust
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:58:59 -0600

I bought a rebuilt '50 engine and chassis for my '48 panel.  The guy I bought it from rebuilt the entire thing about eight years ago and then put it in storage.  The engine runs like a top, after I installed new pugs and freed up two stuck valves.  I didn't run it too long, only about fifteen minutes total.  I noticed that one of the the cooling tubes between the engine and radiator was leaking.  I found that  it has accumulated rusty sludge in the cooling system from sitting.  The rust ate through the metal tubes between the engine and radiator and plugged the tubes and thermostat housings.  The heads look pretty clean but I don't know what might be further down in the engine.  A friend suggested that I run acid through the system to clean it out.  Should I use muriatic acid or is there something better?  What is the best procedure?  I am going to have the radiator checked out at the radiator shop but the truck is not drivable yet.  Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob Jones

'49 F-2
'48 F-1 panel
'49 8N tractor



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From: "Lori" <buff1 worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Bed Box
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:08:55 -0700


I'm in the final stages of a 56 rodstoration.  I'm looking for the stainless
(chrome?) windshield trim.  In addition, I'd like to install a nice bed box
that would contain the battery and the assortment of "stuff needed to clean,
etc. at shows.  Anyone know of a source for a fiberglas or ?? box about
24-30" front to rear that could go right behind the cab that could be
painted to match the truck?
Thanks
Dave and Lori
56 F-100 429 2x4v
86 Jag 502/502--the Bad Kitty
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> pre61-list Digest Sun, 31 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 247
>
> In This Issue:
> F....350?
> ADMIN: Efforts to stop spam
> Anti-Spam Test
> Re: bear claw latches
> Re: F....350?
> which engine for a '58?
> Organization Supporting Motorists
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: A61fordtruck aol.com
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:40:54 EST
> Subject: F....350?
>
>
> I have accest to what looks like a 1960 super duty 1 ton.  it is totally
> trashed, as it was used as a feed truck on a ranch for way too many years.
> all the emblems are gone, the rear fenders, as well as the doors!  it is a
> 292 truck, with 4 speed.  what makes it unusual is Its 10" bed, and 6 lug
17"
> wheels.
>
> Does anybody have any experience with these?  what is it?  is it worth
> finding a new body for?
>
> Greg S.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:42:11 -0500
> From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
> Subject: ADMIN: Efforts to stop spam
>
>
> Ford Truck Enthusiasts receives about 20-50 spam e-mails per
> day.  Fortunately, the list server rejects the postings.
> Unfortunately, the rejected e-mails are bounced to the admin
> e-mail address (ie, me).
>
> At one point, FTE uses the mail-abuse.org and orbs.org
> databases to thwart spam.  This practice was discontinued
> because a small percentage of users were unable to send
> e-mail to FTE because their ISP is listed in either the
> mail-abuse and orbs databases.
>
> There are many reasons for being in one of these databases:
>
> 1. ISP was submitted to Orbs for testing and was determined
>    to allow SMTP relaying. ie, their system is wide open to
>    allowing spammers to bounce mail off their server.
> 2. ISP was submitted to Orbs for testing and blocked testing.
>    Usually, testing is blocked because the ISP knows their
>    mail server is insecure and they do not or cannot fix the
>    problem.  ***This is the primary reason for some of our
>    users being unable to send us mail.***
> 3. ISP is a known, reported source of spam and was submitted
>    to mail-abuse.
> 4. ISP is a known to allow dial-up users to spam.
>
> Due to the amount of spam received, the mail-abuse and Orbs
> lookups have been added back to our mail configuration.  If
> your e-mail gets blocked by our server, either pressure your
> ISP to fix the problem or switch to an ISP that takes spam
> seriously.  Don't take the excuse from them that the Orbs
> test isn't acceptable to them.  The only reason for not wanting
> to be tested is fear of test failure.  The big boys (AOL,
> Mindspring, Earthlink, etc.) aren't afraid of Orbs testing and
> neither should the little providers.
>
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: bellx2 erols.com
> Subject: Anti-Spam Test
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:36:41 -0500
>
> Testing because I was one of the FTE'rs that was blocked by ORB last
Spring ..
> RAY (50 F-1)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 11:07:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Scott <wm_69 yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: bear claw latches
>
>
> I bought some bear claw latches from a local store and they didn't have
> instructions, I don't think that the latches would be much different
> though.  We mounted out latch in the door and the post on the cab, it
> worked out really good.  I have photos if anyone is interested.
> Scott
>
> --- Larrykvet aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone bought bear claw latches from street works?- I bought the
> > whole
> > shaved handle kit from them but they don't send any installation
> > instructions- I would like some info on the bear claw installation if
> > anyone
> > could help-pictures articles etc? thanks larry
>
>
> =====
> My 1952 Ford Pickup Page:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/9731/
>
> __________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Gary L. Perry" <glperry fwi.com>
> Subject: Re: F....350?
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:32:39 -0500
>
>
> Sounds to me like an F-4 heavy one-ton. Didn't think they had in later
50's.
> Would they have had F-450's then? I'ld say maybe for parts, with that much
> missing restoration would be out of site in costs for a truck most people
> would not want and would be hard to sell. Wheels will be hard to find with
> that bolt pattern in one-pc. style and tires too. I'm sure there are lots
of
> little things you can't see right now that would drive you nuts.
>                                                            "G"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <A61fordtruck aol.com>
> To: <pre61-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 10:40 AM
> Subject: [pre61-list] F....350?
>
>
> >
> > I have accest to what looks like a 1960 super duty 1 ton.  it is totally
> > trashed, as it was used as a feed truck on a ranch for way too many
years.
> > all the emblems are gone, the rear fenders, as well as the doors!  it is
a
> > 292 truck, with 4 speed.  what makes it unusual is Its 10" bed, and 6
lug
> 17"
> > wheels.
> >
> > Does anybody have any experience with these?  what is it?  is it worth
> > finding a new body for?
> >
> > Greg S.
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: steve <spowel4 pop.mindspring.com>
> Subject: which engine for a '58?
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:29:13 -0500
>
>
> Hopefully I will be putting an engine in my 1958 F100 sometime this year.
I'm having trouble deciding what to put in it though.  I've got the 223 I-6
that was in it to start with and I had pulled it out for the purpose of a
rebuild (which I haven't started yet).  I also like the idea of putting a v8
in it though.  It seems that parts for the 223 will cost more than for an 8
cylinder.  Any thoughts/suggestions about this?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Carver" <carver ncwebsurfer.com>
> Subject: Organization Supporting Motorists
> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:25:12 -0800
>
>
> I have been trying to remember the name of the
> organization that is working to get some sense into
> the smog laws, prevent unnecessary taking of old cars
> off the road, get rid of photo-radar, protect
> the rights to own and drive our older vehicles, and
> finally found it.  They probably have resources to
> help with the persistent neighbor trying to rid the
> neighborhood of your restoration projects, even though
> they are out of out of site or covered.
>
> From their webpage, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.motorists.org/
> The National Motorists Association is a membership
> organization devoted to representing and protecting
> the rights and interests of North American motorists.
>
> This should cover a lot of ground on all four of
> my vehicle email lists.
>
> Jeff  '64 F100 CrewCab - '67 Squareback - no bus
>
>
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From: "fugate51" <fugate51 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: CLUB Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:22:02 -0500


Hi Ken,
I've been a member of AFTE for some time, Butt the FTE idea sounds appealing
to me. I have but one question before I join, and no doubt you've been asked
this before. What if my ford truck has a Chevy drive train?
Thanks
Sam Fugate
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:23 PM
Subject: [pre61-list] CLUB Ford Truck Enthusiasts


>
> Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to announce an all new club for
> its members:   Club FTE
>
> Club FTE was created in order to help the enthusiast go beyond the
> typical Internet automotive community experience.
>
> Its goals:
>   1. Provide its members with added benefits (listed later in this
>      email).
>   2. Facilitate both on-line and off-line participation on a local,
>      national and international level.
>   3. Support the interests of our members in a friendly atmosphere.
>   4. Preserve the Ford truck, van and SUV hobby and tradition.
>   5. Provide club sponsored activities.
>   6. Provide public awareness.
>   7. Communicate issues of concern to its members.
>
> Its benefits:
>   1.  FTE T-Shirt (optional)
>   2.  FTE Bumper sticker.
>   3.  Group Purchase Discounts (first group purchase will be
>       announced later this week)
>   4.  Your own web site featuring:
>         20 megabytes of web space, no banner ads, online web page
>         editor, no knowledge of HTML is required to edit pages,
>         template based page designer for new users, user insertable
>         page counter and guestbook, users can upload their own files
>         via their web browser, create page templates for users to
>         select from, upload and edit HTML files online, comprehensive
>         user guide, tutorial and context sensitive help. Advanced
>         features include support for tables, META tags and style
>         sheets.
>   5.  Access to members only section of the message boards.
>   6.  Your web site listed in a membership site guide.
>   7.  Submission of your web site to major search engines.
>   8.  Email account. This is a POP email account, you can use the
>       email software of your choice and will not have to use web
>       based email. You have a choice of the following domain names:
>          clubfte.com               ford-trucks.net
>          escapeowners.com          fordtrucker.com
>          excursionowners.com       fordtruckers.com
>          explorerowners.com        fordtruckforum.com
>          f100owners.com            rangerowners.com
>          f150owners.com            supercrewowners.com
>          ford-truckers.com         superdutyowners.com
>   9.  Quarterly Newsletter
>   10. Subscription to a member's only e-mail list. This e-mail list
>       is used to supply SEMA legislative alerts, club announcements,
>       etc.
>   11. Listing in the member and truck registry.
>   12. Membership card.
>   13. Special privileges at the FTE Cruise-In (being planned at this
>       moment).
>   14. Local chapter registries and web sites, complete with message
>       boards.
>   15. More features are planned and will be added as membership grows.
>
>
> For more information and/or to join:
>
> <a
href="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.clubfte.com/">http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.clubfte.com/</a>
>
> Current AFTE members will receive a pro-rated membership to Club
> FTE.  AFTE members should contact me off the list if they wish to
> join Club FTE.
>
> Regards,
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
> http://www.ford-trucks.com
>
>
>


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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:39:10 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: CLUB Ford Truck Enthusiasts


At 05:22 PM 1/2/01, you wrote:

>Hi Ken,
>I've been a member of AFTE for some time, Butt the FTE idea sounds appealing
>to me. I have but one question before I join, and no doubt you've been asked
>this before. What if my ford truck has a Chevy drive train?
>Thanks
>Sam Fugate


Sam,

That's not a problem.  Its up to the local chapters to determine
how much of a ribbing they give you! :-)


Ken



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From: Fifty7F100 cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:48:35 EST
Subject: Re: Subject: F....350?


In a message dated 1/1/01 7:30:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,
listar ford-trucks.com writes:

<< From: A61fordtruck aol.com
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:40:54 EST
Subject: F....350?


I have accest to what looks like a 1960 super duty 1 ton.  it is totally
trashed, as it was used as a feed truck on a ranch for way too many years.
all the emblems are gone, the rear fenders, as well as the doors!  it is a
292 truck, with 4 speed.  what makes it unusual is Its 10" bed, and 6 lug
17"
wheels.

Does anybody have any experience with these?  what is it?  is it worth
finding a new body for?

Greg S.
 >>
Greg,

In a word...NO!  I can't go to 2 words!! You would never find all the needed
body parts. Much less suspension.

Glenn in TN
57 F100 -- in process
93 Mercury Capri (you think parts are hard to find for the 57-60 F100's!)

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From: Fifty7F100 cs.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:54:01 EST
Subject: Re: which engine for a '58?


In a message dated 1/1/01 7:30:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,
listar ford-trucks.com writes:

<< From: steve <spowel4 pop.mindspring.com>
Subject: which engine for a '58?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:29:13 -0500


Hopefully I will be putting an engine in my 1958 F100 sometime this year.
I'm having trouble deciding what to put in it though.  I've got the 223 I-6
that was in it to start with and I had pulled it out for the purpose of a
rebuild (which I haven't started yet).  I also like the idea of putting a v8
in it though.  It seems that parts for the 223 will cost more than for an 8
cylinder.  Any thoughts/suggestions about this?   >>

Steve,

A "Y" block of that era will bolt right in (with the V8 mounts). Any Windsor
will go in just fine. A Cleveland will fit nice. Really anything up to a 460
will fit in these bays nice. Any catalog supplier will have the aftermarket
crossmembers and mounts.

Have you given any idea to a transmission? If you replace the 223 (with
anything except maybe the old "Y" block), you will have to replace the trans.

Good luck,
Glenn in TN
57 F100 -- in process
93 Mercury Capri (you think parts are hard to find for the 57-60 F100's!)

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 22:57:35 -0500
From: David Russow <drussow globalbiz.net>
Subject: Re: Bed Box


Lori

One of the rod magazines showed a restored cooler (coke?) with the battery
mounted in it, wiring down through the bottom unseen from the outside secured in
the trunk.  This could be done with the cooler secured to the bed of the truck
with the wires hidden under the bed.  The tray on top in the cooler could hold
your cleaning items.  Just a thought.

Dave
FIFT4FE

Lori wrote:

> I'm in the final stages of a 56 rodstoration.  I'm looking for the stainless
> (chrome?) windshield trim.  In addition, I'd like to install a nice bed box
> that would contain the battery and the assortment of "stuff needed to clean,
> etc. at shows.  Anyone know of a source for a fiberglas or ?? box about
> 24-30" front to rear that could go right behind the cab that could be
> painted to match the truck?
> Thanks
> Dave and Lori
> 56 F-100 429 2x4v
> 86 Jag 502/502--the Bad Kitty
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> > pre61-list Digest Sun, 31 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 247
> >
> > In This Issue:
> > F....350?
> > ADMIN: Efforts to stop spam
> > Anti-Spam Test
> > Re: bear claw latches
> > Re: F....350?
> > which engine for a '58?
> > Organization Supporting Motorists
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: A61fordtruck aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:40:54 EST
> > Subject: F....350?
> >
> >
> > I have accest to what looks like a 1960 super duty 1 ton.  it is totally
> > trashed, as it was used as a feed truck on a ranch for way too many years.
> > all the emblems are gone, the rear fenders, as well as the doors!  it is a
> > 292 truck, with 4 speed.  what makes it unusual is Its 10" bed, and 6 lug
> 17"
> > wheels.
> >
> > Does anybody have any experience with these?  what is it?  is it worth
> > finding a new body for?
> >
> > Greg S.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:42:11 -0500
> > From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
> > Subject: ADMIN: Efforts to stop spam
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > From: bellx2 erols.com
> > Subject: Anti-Spam Test
> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:36:41 -0500
> >
> > Testing because I was one of the FTE'rs that was blocked by ORB last
> Spring ..
> > RAY (50 F-1)
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 11:07:59 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Scott <wm_69 yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: bear claw latches
> >
> >
> > I bought some bear claw latches from a local store and they didn't have
> > instructions, I don't think that the latches would be much different
> > though.  We mounted out latch in the door and the post on the cab, it
> > worked out really good.  I have photos if anyone is interested.
> > Scott
> >
> > --- Larrykvet aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anyone bought bear claw latches from street works?- I bought the
> > > whole
> > > shaved handle kit from them but they don't send any installation
> > > instructions- I would like some info on the bear claw installation if
> > > anyone
> > > could help-pictures articles etc? thanks larry
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Gary L. Perry" <glperry fwi.com>
> > Subject: Re: F....350?
> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:32:39 -0500
> >
> >
> > Sounds to me like an F-4 heavy one-ton. Didn't think they had in later
> 50's.
> > Would they have had F-450's then? I'ld say maybe for parts, with that much
> > missing restoration would be out of site in costs for a truck most people
> > would not want and would be hard to sell. Wheels will be hard to find with
> > that bolt pattern in one-pc. style and tires too. I'm sure there are lots
> of
> > little things you can't see right now that would drive you nuts.
> >                                                            "G"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <A61fordtruck aol.com>
> > To: <pre61-list ford-trucks.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 10:40 AM
> > Subject: [pre61-list] F....350?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I have accest to what looks like a 1960 super duty 1 ton.  it is totally
> > > trashed, as it was used as a feed truck on a ranch for way too many
> years.
> > > all the emblems are gone, the rear fenders, as well as the doors!  it is
> a
> > > 292 truck, with 4 speed.  what makes it unusual is Its 10" bed, and 6
> lug
> > 17"
> > > wheels.
> > >
> > > Does anybody have any experience with these?  what is it?  is it worth
> > > finding a new body for?
> > >
> > > Greg S.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: steve <spowel4 pop.mindspring.com>
> > Subject: which engine for a '58?
> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:29:13 -0500
> >
> >
> > Hopefully I will be putting an engine in my 1958 F100 sometime this year.
> I'm having trouble deciding what to put in it though.  I've got the 223 I-6
> that was in it to start with and I had pulled it out for the purpose of a
> rebuild (which I haven't started yet).  I also like the idea of putting a v8
> in it though.  It seems that parts for the 223 will cost more than for an 8
> cylinder.  Any thoughts/suggestions about this?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Carver" <carver ncwebsurfer.com>
> > Subject: Organization Supporting Motorists
> > Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:25:12 -0800
> >
> >
> > I have been trying to remember the name of the
> > organization that is working to get some sense into
> > the smog laws, prevent unnecessary taking of old cars
> > off the road, get rid of photo-radar, protect
> > the rights to own and drive our older vehicles, and
> > finally found it.  They probably have resources to
> > help with the persistent neighbor trying to rid the
> > neighborhood of your restoration projects, even though
> > they are out of out of site or covered.
> >
> > From their webpage, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.motorists.org/
> > The National Motorists Association is a membership
> > organization devoted to representing and protecting
> > the rights and interests of North American motorists.
> >
> > This should cover a lot of ground on all four of
> > my vehicle email lists.
> >
> > Jeff  '64 F100 CrewCab - '67 Squareback - no bus
> >
> >
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