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pre61-list-digest Monday, January 24 2000 Volume 04 : Number 023



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: paint questions?
FTE Pre61 - Firewall insulation for '61 F100
FTE Pre61 - Sway bars
FTE Pre61 - Re: Paint Questions?
FTE Pre61 - T98 tranny question
Re: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars
FTE Pre61 - paint: on the cheap

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:27:42 -0800
From: Carver ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: paint questions?

I'm also on both lists, and the winner is . . . pre-61!
for both quantity and quality of posts.
So here's my shot.

I've seen a non-Ford crewcab painted (exterior) all gloss
black. There was a distinct LACK of teature definition.
It was all sooo dark that differences in lines, angles,
and features were very hard to distinguish.

The same would apply to an engine bay. Think about
what items you want to blend into the background,
and what you want to highlight.
(This works for fences too, BTW)

People's eyes tend to let black objects fade to the
background, bright things tend to be a focus point.

If you want to spotlight the engine and hide the stuff
agains the firewall, go black with firewall and parts
against it. If you want to highlight the engine bay
and parts in it, go with the mint.

The idea of various textures of black is a good one,
it will provide some contrast for the eye to pick out
different objects. Eyes can pick out very subtle changes.

My personal preference is the stock paint scheme, but
it's your truck, do what you like.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab 292

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What I would like to ask is what color should I paint the firewall?
It is currently the mint color, but I'll need to strip it due to all
the surface rust. I thought that the POR-15 semi-black would be
cool and durable, but I thought the Y-block engine would look good in
semi-black, too. Is a total underhood blacked-out on a mint
outter-painted truck gonna look ok? I'm having trouble visualizing
it at this point.


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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:03:32 +0000
From: "Eric" scican.net>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Firewall insulation for '61 F100

Another question for my '61 F100....

What have you guys used to replace your firewall
insulation/kickboards? Originally, this is a contoured piece of
cardboard and insulation batting. I'm not necessarily looking for a
concourse piece or replacement, but I want it to look and wear well.
Have you had any success with a homemade fix or do you have a
recommended supplier that I can contact?
Thanks in advance,
Eric 'Stitch'
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*** "Happy Days" ***
* 1961 F100 Unibody w/ '59 292 Y-block *
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:54:25 EST
From: FiftySevenF100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars

FTEers,

I took in all the messages last week about the sway bars. I have one
question. I have the front sway bar from the Lincoln donor still mounted on
the front clip. How rigid does the rear mount need to be? I will have to
fabricate some sort of mount to the frame of my 57. The mounts are still on
the rear end. Its the ends of the bar that I am concerned.

Glenn in TN
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:32:31 EST
From: FRD56F100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Paint Questions?

I agree with Tim from Seattle. More work will be involved, but it will look
better.

I have a question of my own. I been upgrading the sound system in my 56 F100
and I will like to know if there is a company that sells speaker boxes
specially made for 56 F100's. I have a Crutchfield catalog and it shows some
cool speaker enclosures for the cowl kick panel sides, only that they are
made for newer trucks. It will be great if those were sold for 56 F100's.
I got rid of the fuel tank inside the cab because I want to fit some big
speakers behind the seat. Can somebody tell me where I can find custom made
speaker boxes for my 56 rear seat area? Any help will be appreciated.

Joe
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:59:50 +0000
From: "Eric" scican.net>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - T98 tranny question

And the fun continues..... I pulled my tranny this afternoon as part
of my frame-off of the '61 Unibody. Tip for the day:
Make sure your truck is jacked up (and safely supported) before you
drop the tranny, otherwise you'll have to lay it on it's side and
slide it out to clear the frame.... not that I'd know firsthand, mind
you, only what I've heard! ;-D

Anyways, it's the origianl '61(best I can tell) T98 4-speed. It
seems to work well, except for quite a bit of play in the long stick
shift.... it stays in gear fine, just seems pretty loose. Is this
normal or does it indicate excessive wear?

Also it has some leaks, which I'd like to seal up in order to paint
the casing. Can anyone offer any tips which would prove worth
performing/checking/replacing at this time while it's out on my
bench?

I'm thinking that I should minimally get a gasket kit for it (do I
get something like this from a local blister pack parts store,
or is it a mail order item)? As always, thanks for all of your
valuable inputs.

Eric (I can't believe I got a post written without any hojo terms!)
;-)

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*** "Happy Days" ***
* 1961 F100 Unibody w/ '59 292 Y-block *
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:35:33 -0000
From: "Tim Mortimore" evergo.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars

on my e-150:

the frame mounts are a simple 'L' bracket that bolts to side of the frame,
and a long bolt runs through the hole in the 'L' bracket to the end of the
sway bar. mine has a urethane bushing with a metal cap above and below the
'L' bracket, a spacer bar ( 1"), and urethane bushing with metal caps above
and below the end of the bar. the long bolt is 5/16th diameter (just
guessing, didn't measure) the 'L' bracket is about as sturdy as the frame,
not super gigantic, 3/16 or 1/4. if you want me to go measure, i will, but
right now it's raining....

tim in seattle

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From: aol.com>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 7:54 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars


> FTEers,
>
> I took in all the messages last week about the sway bars. I have one
> question. I have the front sway bar from the Lincoln donor still mounted
on
> the front clip. How rigid does the rear mount need to be? I will have to
> fabricate some sort of mount to the frame of my 57. The mounts are still
on
> the rear end. Its the ends of the bar that I am concerned.
>
> Glenn in TN
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:42:36 -0800
From: "Hunter L. Wimmer" hlwimmer.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - paint: on the cheap

for those who are not planning on a frame-up restoration, or for those who just
want to spruce up an old beater...krylon's antique white is just a shade off
from ford's wimbledon white. i painted the interior trim on my 65 galaxie with
the krylon and had the body shop shoot a coat of wimbledon white on the
exterior. i was pleased with the finish and all of my interior trim and trunk
liner had a fresh coat of paint.

i would be interested in hearing what other off-the-shelf paint folks have
found to be "darm close to stock" as far as 53-56 truck colors go. rustoleum
makes a wide range of their "hard-hat" colors and it would be great to find
some close-to-original colors--especially for "woodsmoke gray".

please don't crucify me for not playing the part of a purist. i live in one of
america's largest citys, park the truck on the street, brave curbside repairs,
and climb americas steepest urban hills with my fingers crossed--i have enough
on my plate to not worry about a frame-up restoration (and i'm sure there are a
lot of folks who are in the same boat).

lets hear some "on the cheap" restoration tips...

hunter
shakeytown, usa
53 f100 (currently 3 colors--none of them stock, one brush-applied)

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