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From: owner-pre61-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (pre61-list-digest) To: pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: pre61-list-digest V4 #23 Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk pre61-list-digest Monday, January 24 2000 Volume 04 : Number 023 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Pre61 - Re: paint questions? FTE Pre61 - Firewall insulation for '61 F100 FTE Pre61 - Sway bars FTE Pre61 - Re: Paint Questions? FTE Pre61 - T98 tranny question Re: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars FTE Pre61 - paint: on the cheap ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:27:42 -0800 From: Carver Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: paint questions? I'm also on both lists, and the winner is . . . pre-61! for both quantity and quality of posts. So here's my shot. I've seen a non-Ford crewcab painted (exterior) all gloss black. There was a distinct LACK of teature definition. It was all sooo dark that differences in lines, angles, and features were very hard to distinguish. The same would apply to an engine bay. Think about what items you want to blend into the background, and what you want to highlight. (This works for fences too, BTW) People's eyes tend to let black objects fade to the background, bright things tend to be a focus point. If you want to spotlight the engine and hide the stuff agains the firewall, go black with firewall and parts against it. If you want to highlight the engine bay and parts in it, go with the mint. The idea of various textures of black is a good one, it will provide some contrast for the eye to pick out different objects. Eyes can pick out very subtle changes. My personal preference is the stock paint scheme, but it's your truck, do what you like. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab 292 - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- snip What I would like to ask is what color should I paint the firewall? It is currently the mint color, but I'll need to strip it due to all the surface rust. I thought that the POR-15 semi-black would be cool and durable, but I thought the Y-block engine would look good in semi-black, too. Is a total underhood blacked-out on a mint outter-painted truck gonna look ok? I'm having trouble visualizing it at this point. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:03:32 +0000 From: "Eric" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Firewall insulation for '61 F100 Another question for my '61 F100.... What have you guys used to replace your firewall insulation/kickboards? Originally, this is a contoured piece of cardboard and insulation batting. I'm not necessarily looking for a concourse piece or replacement, but I want it to look and wear well. Have you had any success with a homemade fix or do you have a recommended supplier that I can contact? Thanks in advance, Eric 'Stitch' **************************************** *** "Happy Days" *** * 1961 F100 Unibody w/ '59 292 Y-block * **************************************** == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:54:25 EST From: FiftySevenF100 aol.com Subject: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars FTEers, I took in all the messages last week about the sway bars. I have one question. I have the front sway bar from the Lincoln donor still mounted on the front clip. How rigid does the rear mount need to be? I will have to fabricate some sort of mount to the frame of my 57. The mounts are still on the rear end. Its the ends of the bar that I am concerned. Glenn in TN == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:32:31 EST From: FRD56F100 aol.com Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Paint Questions? I agree with Tim from Seattle. More work will be involved, but it will look better. I have a question of my own. I been upgrading the sound system in my 56 F100 and I will like to know if there is a company that sells speaker boxes specially made for 56 F100's. I have a Crutchfield catalog and it shows some cool speaker enclosures for the cowl kick panel sides, only that they are made for newer trucks. It will be great if those were sold for 56 F100's. I got rid of the fuel tank inside the cab because I want to fit some big speakers behind the seat. Can somebody tell me where I can find custom made speaker boxes for my 56 rear seat area? Any help will be appreciated. Joe == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:59:50 +0000 From: "Eric" Subject: FTE Pre61 - T98 tranny question And the fun continues..... I pulled my tranny this afternoon as part of my frame-off of the '61 Unibody. Tip for the day: Make sure your truck is jacked up (and safely supported) before you drop the tranny, otherwise you'll have to lay it on it's side and slide it out to clear the frame.... not that I'd know firsthand, mind you, only what I've heard! ;-D Anyways, it's the origianl '61(best I can tell) T98 4-speed. It seems to work well, except for quite a bit of play in the long stick shift.... it stays in gear fine, just seems pretty loose. Is this normal or does it indicate excessive wear? Also it has some leaks, which I'd like to seal up in order to paint the casing. Can anyone offer any tips which would prove worth performing/checking/replacing at this time while it's out on my bench? I'm thinking that I should minimally get a gasket kit for it (do I get something like this from a local blister pack parts store, or is it a mail order item)? As always, thanks for all of your valuable inputs. Eric (I can't believe I got a post written without any hojo terms!) ;-) **************************************** *** "Happy Days" *** * 1961 F100 Unibody w/ '59 292 Y-block * **************************************** == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:35:33 -0000 From: "Tim Mortimore" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars on my e-150: the frame mounts are a simple 'L' bracket that bolts to side of the frame, and a long bolt runs through the hole in the 'L' bracket to the end of the sway bar. mine has a urethane bushing with a metal cap above and below the 'L' bracket, a spacer bar ( 1"), and urethane bushing with metal caps above and below the end of the bar. the long bolt is 5/16th diameter (just guessing, didn't measure) the 'L' bracket is about as sturdy as the frame, not super gigantic, 3/16 or 1/4. if you want me to go measure, i will, but right now it's raining.... tim in seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 7:54 PM Subject: FTE Pre61 - Sway bars > FTEers, > > I took in all the messages last week about the sway bars. I have one > question. I have the front sway bar from the Lincoln donor still mounted on > the front clip. How rigid does the rear mount need to be? I will have to > fabricate some sort of mount to the frame of my 57. The mounts are still on > the rear end. Its the ends of the bar that I am concerned. > > Glenn in TN > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:42:36 -0800 From: "Hunter L. Wimmer" Subject: FTE Pre61 - paint: on the cheap for those who are not planning on a frame-up restoration, or for those who just want to spruce up an old beater...krylon's antique white is just a shade off from ford's wimbledon white. i painted the interior trim on my 65 galaxie with the krylon and had the body shop shoot a coat of wimbledon white on the exterior. i was pleased with the finish and all of my interior trim and trunk liner had a fresh coat of paint. i would be interested in hearing what other off-the-shelf paint folks have found to be "darm close to stock" as far as 53-56 truck colors go. rustoleum makes a wide range of their "hard-hat" colors and it would be great to find some close-to-original colors--especially for "woodsmoke gray". please don't crucify me for not playing the part of a purist. i live in one of america's largest citys, park the truck on the street, brave curbside repairs, and climb americas steepest urban hills with my fingers crossed--i have enough on my plate to not worry about a frame-up restoration (and i'm sure there are a lot of folks who are in the same boat). lets hear some "on the cheap" restoration tips... hunter shakeytown, usa 53 f100 (currently 3 colors--none of them stock, one brush-applied) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html.... 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