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pre61-list-digest Sunday, January 16 2000 Volume 04 : Number 014



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing
FTE Pre61 - Don's Whine
FTE Pre61 - volare clips
RE: FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing
FTE Pre61 - That Whining Noise, 3/4 Drums, Volare Clips
Re: FTE Pre61 - volare clips
FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin
FTE Pre61 - RE: vo-lar-e...whow-o-o-o, volare, o-o-o
Re: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin
Re: FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank Sending Unit
FTE Pre61 - Re: My Truck is Whining

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:13:42 -0500
From: "Sheldon Rier" golden.net>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing

Hi All

been some posts about Por15

read the ads & heard people say how good it work
being a skeptic & thinking it snake oil bought some to try
it worked unbelievably well, easy to use, tough as nails & looks good

the cup the leftover was in blew over & the paint spilled out into a puddle
the weather was just above freezing & the next day I noticed the black clump
at the bottom of puddle - the Por15 had cured even though immersed in water
at very low temperatures

it's not cheap but well worth it

Sheldon

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 06:17:24 -0800
From: "Steve Bittman" earthlink.net>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Don's Whine

Don-

As much as I enjoyed Mr. Wilsons cat theory, ( I had to laugh at the image
of the quiet cat sitting on the porch in bandages) I don't think that's yer
problem. If the noise occurrs in gear with the clutch engaged, then you may
have a bearing going south in the trans (probably output shaft). If the
noise occurrs with the truck stationary, in neutral, with your foot off the
clutch pedal, then the input shaft bearing or the input/output shaft needle
bearings could be bad. If the noise occurrs only with your foot on the
clutch pedal then look to T/O bearing (check adjustment by the way). The
only time the pilot bearing comes into play is when the input shaft and the
crank are turning at different rpm, so if the noise occurrs when the truck
is in motion, in gear with the clutch dis-engaged, then this could be the
trouble. If you can describe the circumstances in more detail, it would
help. Steve Bittman


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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:36:33 EST
From: A61fordtruck aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - volare clips

In a message dated 01/15/2000 5:45:40 AM EST,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:

<<
Great question Greg. Do you already have the Volare' clip? I need to put
power steering on my '52 F1 and am also considering the Volare' option. Do
you know the hub-to-hub width; is it the same as your '61? I'm also
interested in hearing from anyone else who has made this swap. Phillip
> >>


somebody on the list sent me a bunch of pics on his instalation of this clip
in a '53. I do not have those pics with me, they are on my hardisc back in
europe and unfortunatly I cannot remember that person's name. everybody says
that the clip works fine in the effys, I'm not so sure that the mopar clip
would fill up the vast space between fenders in a '61 however. I put my
question forth again, why notch the frame?

Greg Schnakenberg
61 stepside
65 custom cab long bed project, (for sale)
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:06:57 -0600
From: Mike Morton woodward.com>
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing

I haven't used POR15 yet But a couple of friends swear by it. They say they
won't use anything else. Check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.brysondist.com/FAQs.html.
Mike Morton
55 F100/460


Hi All

been some posts about Por15

read the ads & heard people say how good it work
being a skeptic & thinking it snake oil bought some to try
it worked unbelievably well, easy to use, tough as nails & looks good

the cup the leftover was in blew over & the paint spilled out into a puddle
the weather was just above freezing & the next day I noticed the black clump
at the bottom of puddle - the Por15 had cured even though immersed in water
at very low temperatures

it's not cheap but well worth it

Sheldon

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:49:51 -0500
From: The Neighbors ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - That Whining Noise, 3/4 Drums, Volare Clips

Thanks for the suggestion, Russ. Unfortunately, your suggestion won't
help in my case, because I do not have a Porsche. The cat would have to
haul it's bandaged self onto a derelict VW instead.

Russ Wilson wrote: "DON NEIGHBORS, I THINK I KNOW YOUR PROBLEM. MY
TRUCK MADE THE SAME TYPE WHINING, SCREECHING NOISE THE FASTER I WENT
THE LOUDER IT WAS. I REMOVED MY NEIGHBORS CAT FROM THE FAN BELT AND
THAT DID THE TRICK. EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL, NICE AND QUIET AND
THE CAT JUST SITS ON THE PORCH IN BANDAGES. HOPE THIS HELPS."

I would like to report the sound has stopped as mysteriously as it
started. If the pilot bearing is going out, I am going to be highly
annoyed, because it has just over 5000 miles on it. As for the throwout
bearing, it's been my experience they only make noise when you press on
the clutch pedal. HOWEVER, I have owned far more auto tranny cars than
standard tranny vehicles, so my experience base is pretty small. Maybe
Russ was right, and the noise was a cat. It just made the noise until it
could escape! ;-)
John Steele, tell me more about those drums and backing plates.
As for the Volare clip, I think the reason they notch the frame to fit
that is so they can lower the front end, too. I think I've read that
installing the Volare clip will actually raise the front of the vehicle
a few inches, but I am not certain.

- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
inaccessible part of the vehicle."

grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:30:54 MST
From: "Jeff Thomas" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - volare clips

No Limit Engineering sells a video on the Volare Clip installation. Although
they don't specify, it looks like the notch is needed to achieve the proper
angle and ride height for the front end.
Jeff T


>From: A61fordtruck aol.com
>Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE Pre61 - volare clips
>Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:36:33 EST
>
>In a message dated 01/15/2000 5:45:40 AM EST,
>owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:
>
><<
> Great question Greg. Do you already have the Volare' clip? I need to
>put
> power steering on my '52 F1 and am also considering the Volare' option.
>Do
> you know the hub-to-hub width; is it the same as your '61? I'm also
> interested in hearing from anyone else who has made this swap. Phillip
> > >>
>
>
>somebody on the list sent me a bunch of pics on his instalation of this
>clip
>in a '53. I do not have those pics with me, they are on my hardisc back in
>europe and unfortunatly I cannot remember that person's name. everybody
>says
>that the clip works fine in the effys, I'm not so sure that the mopar clip
>would fill up the vast space between fenders in a '61 however. I put my
>question forth again, why notch the frame?
>
>Greg Schnakenberg
>61 stepside
>65 custom cab long bed project, (for sale)
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:21:10 -0500
From: gary vandergrift home.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin

Nice lapel pin at e-bay of a 50's lapel pin
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=235853081
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:14:20 -0600
From: "Stephen W.Hansen" minot.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: vo-lar-e...whow-o-o-o, volare, o-o-o

>I am thinking of installing a Volare clip and have a serious question. why
>does everybody notch the frame? would it not be more easy to use the 4
stock
>mounting points, fabricate some brackets and bolt it all in? why all the
>cutting and welding? Please somebody inlighten me.
Basically (although there may be other reasons) is to lower the stance of
the front end and the truck
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
50 F-1



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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:16:57 -0500
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" qnci.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin

I bought one, it is very nice.

Howard
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From: gary vandergrift home.com>
To: pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com ford-trucks.com>
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin


>Nice lapel pin at e-bay of a 50's lapel pin
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=235853081
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:52:53 -0800
From: sainey impop.bellatlantic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank Sending Unit

your sending unit won't make any difference. The guage is what determines the
voltage. If you don't have a regulated voltage supply the gas guage will not read
accurately. As long as it's six volts out you won't do any damage to the guage
though. If you harness uses a resistor to drop the voltage to the guages it will
cause a variable voltage depending on the load. Because a gas guage works on
variable voltage as well it will not read quite accurately. How much off depends
on how much the load varies between full and empty.
Steve Delanty has a really good schematic 12 to 6 volt regulater that will keep
constant.

Steve

39 1/2 ton

Randy K Selby wrote:

> I know that this has been addressed before, but I couldn't find the info in my
> archives. I am ready to put some power to my '50 F-1 and need to know if I
> need a special voltage reducer for my gas tank sending unit. I have installed
> a new harness set up for 12V neg ground. I put a voltage reducer in-line to my
> gauge feed, but I have seen other postings pertaining to a "special" reducer
> needed for the gas tank. Also, the truck that I bought was a basket case, so I
> don't know for sure that the sending unit that I have is 6V. I did not see any
> markings on the top of the unit. How can I tell the difference between 6 and
> 12V? The voltage reducer that I installed was sold to me by the same company
> that produced the harness. It is a ceramic coil-type reducer. Will it be
> enough to supply the stock dash gauges and the tank sending unit? All help
> will be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Randy Selby
> selbyrk npoint.net
> selby_randy_k cat.com
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:32:54 -0600
From: "Terry" ticnet.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: My Truck is Whining

The noise begins when I release the clutch
pedal, and seems to be related to engine rpm. The noise does NOT occur
in neutral. I have a gut feeling it's inside the transmission, but I'd
love it if somebody could tell me otherwise.

I will tell you anything you want to hear if you actually think it will
help. But from my experience with the trannys, that sound will probably be
the main input shaft bearing. It is the most common to fail under normal use
around 150,000 miles. But is not hard to repair. Just drop the trans out and
slide off the front seal plate. It will be obvious if it is bad. The ball
retainer will be broken or a ball will be desintigrated and there will be....


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