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From: owner-pre61-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (pre61-list-digest) To: pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: pre61-list-digest V4 #14 Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk pre61-list-digest Sunday, January 16 2000 Volume 04 : Number 014 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing FTE Pre61 - Don's Whine FTE Pre61 - volare clips RE: FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing FTE Pre61 - That Whining Noise, 3/4 Drums, Volare Clips Re: FTE Pre61 - volare clips FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin FTE Pre61 - RE: vo-lar-e...whow-o-o-o, volare, o-o-o Re: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin Re: FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank Sending Unit FTE Pre61 - Re: My Truck is Whining ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:13:42 -0500 From: "Sheldon Rier" Subject: FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing Hi All been some posts about Por15 read the ads & heard people say how good it work being a skeptic & thinking it snake oil bought some to try it worked unbelievably well, easy to use, tough as nails & looks good the cup the leftover was in blew over & the paint spilled out into a puddle the weather was just above freezing & the next day I noticed the black clump at the bottom of puddle - the Por15 had cured even though immersed in water at very low temperatures it's not cheap but well worth it Sheldon == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 06:17:24 -0800 From: "Steve Bittman" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Don's Whine Don- As much as I enjoyed Mr. Wilsons cat theory, ( I had to laugh at the image of the quiet cat sitting on the porch in bandages) I don't think that's yer problem. If the noise occurrs in gear with the clutch engaged, then you may have a bearing going south in the trans (probably output shaft). If the noise occurrs with the truck stationary, in neutral, with your foot off the clutch pedal, then the input shaft bearing or the input/output shaft needle bearings could be bad. If the noise occurrs only with your foot on the clutch pedal then look to T/O bearing (check adjustment by the way). The only time the pilot bearing comes into play is when the input shaft and the crank are turning at different rpm, so if the noise occurrs when the truck is in motion, in gear with the clutch dis-engaged, then this could be the trouble. If you can describe the circumstances in more detail, it would help. Steve Bittman == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:36:33 EST From: A61fordtruck aol.com Subject: FTE Pre61 - volare clips In a message dated 01/15/2000 5:45:40 AM EST, owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes: << Great question Greg. Do you already have the Volare' clip? I need to put power steering on my '52 F1 and am also considering the Volare' option. Do you know the hub-to-hub width; is it the same as your '61? I'm also interested in hearing from anyone else who has made this swap. Phillip > >> somebody on the list sent me a bunch of pics on his instalation of this clip in a '53. I do not have those pics with me, they are on my hardisc back in europe and unfortunatly I cannot remember that person's name. everybody says that the clip works fine in the effys, I'm not so sure that the mopar clip would fill up the vast space between fenders in a '61 however. I put my question forth again, why notch the frame? Greg Schnakenberg 61 stepside 65 custom cab long bed project, (for sale) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:06:57 -0600 From: Mike Morton Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - rustrproofing I haven't used POR15 yet But a couple of friends swear by it. They say they won't use anything else. Check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.brysondist.com/FAQs.html. Mike Morton 55 F100/460 Hi All been some posts about Por15 read the ads & heard people say how good it work being a skeptic & thinking it snake oil bought some to try it worked unbelievably well, easy to use, tough as nails & looks good the cup the leftover was in blew over & the paint spilled out into a puddle the weather was just above freezing & the next day I noticed the black clump at the bottom of puddle - the Por15 had cured even though immersed in water at very low temperatures it's not cheap but well worth it Sheldon == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:49:51 -0500 From: The Neighbors Subject: FTE Pre61 - That Whining Noise, 3/4 Drums, Volare Clips Thanks for the suggestion, Russ. Unfortunately, your suggestion won't help in my case, because I do not have a Porsche. The cat would have to haul it's bandaged self onto a derelict VW instead. Russ Wilson wrote: "DON NEIGHBORS, I THINK I KNOW YOUR PROBLEM. MY TRUCK MADE THE SAME TYPE WHINING, SCREECHING NOISE THE FASTER I WENT THE LOUDER IT WAS. I REMOVED MY NEIGHBORS CAT FROM THE FAN BELT AND THAT DID THE TRICK. EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL, NICE AND QUIET AND THE CAT JUST SITS ON THE PORCH IN BANDAGES. HOPE THIS HELPS." I would like to report the sound has stopped as mysteriously as it started. If the pilot bearing is going out, I am going to be highly annoyed, because it has just over 5000 miles on it. As for the throwout bearing, it's been my experience they only make noise when you press on the clutch pedal. HOWEVER, I have owned far more auto tranny cars than standard tranny vehicles, so my experience base is pretty small. Maybe Russ was right, and the noise was a cat. It just made the noise until it could escape! ;-) John Steele, tell me more about those drums and backing plates. As for the Volare clip, I think the reason they notch the frame to fit that is so they can lower the front end, too. I think I've read that installing the Volare clip will actually raise the front of the vehicle a few inches, but I am not certain. - -- Don Neighbors '54 F250 Named Grover "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most inaccessible part of the vehicle." grover ford-trucks.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:30:54 MST From: "Jeff Thomas" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - volare clips No Limit Engineering sells a video on the Volare Clip installation. Although they don't specify, it looks like the notch is needed to achieve the proper angle and ride height for the front end. Jeff T >From: A61fordtruck aol.com >Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com >To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com >Subject: FTE Pre61 - volare clips >Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:36:33 EST > >In a message dated 01/15/2000 5:45:40 AM EST, >owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes: > ><< > Great question Greg. Do you already have the Volare' clip? I need to >put > power steering on my '52 F1 and am also considering the Volare' option. >Do > you know the hub-to-hub width; is it the same as your '61? I'm also > interested in hearing from anyone else who has made this swap. Phillip > > >> > > >somebody on the list sent me a bunch of pics on his instalation of this >clip >in a '53. I do not have those pics with me, they are on my hardisc back in >europe and unfortunatly I cannot remember that person's name. everybody >says >that the clip works fine in the effys, I'm not so sure that the mopar clip >would fill up the vast space between fenders in a '61 however. I put my >question forth again, why notch the frame? > >Greg Schnakenberg >61 stepside >65 custom cab long bed project, (for sale) >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:21:10 -0500 From: gary vandergrift Subject: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin Nice lapel pin at e-bay of a 50's lapel pin http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=235853081 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:14:20 -0600 From: "Stephen W.Hansen" Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: vo-lar-e...whow-o-o-o, volare, o-o-o >I am thinking of installing a Volare clip and have a serious question. why >does everybody notch the frame? would it not be more easy to use the 4 stock >mounting points, fabricate some brackets and bolt it all in? why all the >cutting and welding? Please somebody inlighten me. Basically (although there may be other reasons) is to lower the stance of the front end and the truck Stephen Hansen 92 F250 50 F-1 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:16:57 -0500 From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin I bought one, it is very nice. Howard - -----Original Message----- From: gary vandergrift To: pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 5:36 PM Subject: FTE Pre61 - 50's ford lapel pin >Nice lapel pin at e-bay of a 50's lapel pin >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=235853081 >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:52:53 -0800 From: sainey impop.bellatlantic.net Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank Sending Unit your sending unit won't make any difference. The guage is what determines the voltage. If you don't have a regulated voltage supply the gas guage will not read accurately. As long as it's six volts out you won't do any damage to the guage though. If you harness uses a resistor to drop the voltage to the guages it will cause a variable voltage depending on the load. Because a gas guage works on variable voltage as well it will not read quite accurately. How much off depends on how much the load varies between full and empty. Steve Delanty has a really good schematic 12 to 6 volt regulater that will keep constant. Steve 39 1/2 ton Randy K Selby wrote: > I know that this has been addressed before, but I couldn't find the info in my > archives. I am ready to put some power to my '50 F-1 and need to know if I > need a special voltage reducer for my gas tank sending unit. I have installed > a new harness set up for 12V neg ground. I put a voltage reducer in-line to my > gauge feed, but I have seen other postings pertaining to a "special" reducer > needed for the gas tank. Also, the truck that I bought was a basket case, so I > don't know for sure that the sending unit that I have is 6V. I did not see any > markings on the top of the unit. How can I tell the difference between 6 and > 12V? The voltage reducer that I installed was sold to me by the same company > that produced the harness. It is a ceramic coil-type reducer. Will it be > enough to supply the stock dash gauges and the tank sending unit? All help > will be appreciated. Thanks. > > Randy Selby > selbyrk npoint.net > selby_randy_k cat.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:32:54 -0600 From: "Terry" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: My Truck is Whining The noise begins when I release the clutch pedal, and seems to be related to engine rpm. The noise does NOT occur in neutral. I have a gut feeling it's inside the transmission, but I'd love it if somebody could tell me otherwise. I will tell you anything you want to hear if you actually think it will help. But from my experience with the trannys, that sound will probably be the main input shaft bearing. It is the most common to fail under normal use around 150,000 miles. But is not hard to repair. Just drop the trans out and slide off the front seal plate. It will be obvious if it is bad. The ball retainer will be broken or a ball will be desintigrated and there will be.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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