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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Bed Finish
FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block
FTE Pre61 - Re: Two Great Mechanics
Re: FTE Pre61 - oil stick
Re: FTE Pre61 - shop sources in NoCAL
FTE Pre61 - Re: shop sources in NoCAL
Re: FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block
Re: FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block
Re: FTE Pre61 - oil stick
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: I'm with Russ
FTE Pre61 - Re: pre61-list-F6 Wheels
Re: FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 22.5 wheels
Re: FTE Pre61 - voting on the new list

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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:37:33 -0500
From: Ray or Fran Bell erols.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bed Finish

The Feb 2000 edition of Street Trucks has a good article on bed finish.
Provides info about wood choices and preparation; finishes; and
maintenance.

On another topic, Russ, it seems to me that in your 1 Jan post, you already
named your '49; "Babe."
RAY

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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:01:35 -0500
From: Mark Barnes telerama.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block

Howdy,
I have a '53 F350 that I bought. The motor is there, but needs bolted
up. The fellow that I bought it from says the motor is a 292 Y block.
It certainly is a Y block with the extended head mounting area & the
cross over exhaust pipe. But when comparing to my uncle's '54 F100,
which he says has a 292 Y block, there are a few small differences like
the way the oil filter screws on. Mine has a mount for the filter & his
just screws on to the block. Also the motor mount on the front of the
motor doesn't look like it is going to bolt up correctly on mine, so we
figure it may not originally have been a truck motor.
The serial number on the rating plate of my F350 says it should have
originally been a 239. The numbers on the block are "ECZ 6015A". Can
anybody help me identify if my motor really is a 292, & what it
originally came out of.
Also, when I get this figured out, I'll be needing a carb & throttle
linkage, fan & radiator. etc...

Any info is appreciated...
Thanks...
Mark
'53 F350 Dually/ Flatbed

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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:44:23 EST
From: HDMel95 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Two Great Mechanics

I know of one great mechanic and fellow vintage car/truck enthusiast in the
Bay Area. It is John's Automotive in Campbell, Calif. Campbell is next to
San Jose, Calif. There are two John's Automotive in the phone book, be sure
you get the one near 880 and Camden. (Tell him Mel sent you)
The other great mechanic I have found since moving from the Bay Area is
"Lonnie's Automotive" in Spokane, WA on Perry Street.

Mel
53 Effie
34 5w
34 Roadster
70 El Camino
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:01:13 EST
From: Dpb289 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - oil stick

I actually changed the sump about five years ago on a 351W. I had to get the
timing chain cover that had the dipstick tube and change the oil pan where
the original tube came out. I know on the 302 that I have now the tube comes
out of the block. If your's is like this you'll have to tap the hole and put
a plug in it.

dpb289 54f100
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:03:26 -0800
From: sainey impop.bellatlantic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - shop sources in NoCAL

I know where there is a classic resto garage in Vacaville area if that's not to
far for you.
If you need it I'll get the name and number of it. I stopped and talked to them
once when I was out there and they seemed pretty knowledgable. They worked on
old ch*vys and Fords primarily

Steve

39 1/2 ton Hopped up Flathead

Hunter L. Wimmer wrote:

> searching for sources in NoCAL: mechanics, shops, visionaries...
>
> I'm looking for a shop or mechanic, in or around the San Francisco Bay area,
> who "knows" my 53 f100.
>
> It seems if you don't drive a Porsche or Honda in this city, your'e S.O.L--I
> can't even find a mechanic who will look at my truck and had to drive 100
> miles to Sacramento for transmission service.
>
> Eventually, I'll know this truck like the back of my hand, but until then and
> until I get a garage (street parking for me), I need to know a mechanic who
> can tackle a job, finish it right and in a reasonable time, and not rip me
> off...(s)he's out there somewhere.
>
> Thanks
>
> Hunter
>
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:49:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee yahoo.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: shop sources in NoCAL

Hunter,

I would like to plug the guys who did my work on my
'53 F100. I don't know how much this will help you,
because they are in Gilroy Ca., about 60 mi. South of
SF. This is basically a Rod Shop, but they may take a
stocker if it is in good shape. They did great work
for me, in reasonable time, and at a reasonable price.

The name of the shop is:

Power Rods
6440 Unit A Chestnut St.
Gilroy Ca. 95020
408-847-7637

The guys names are Don, Mike, and Gary. They are all
professionals and very much into rods. The shop is
filled with all kinds of rods, coupes, pickups etc.
The work they did for me was all drive train and
suspension. Call them let them know what you need and
tell them I sent you.


Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V


>Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 15:45:44 -0800
>From: "Hunter L. Wimmer" hlwimmer.com>
>Subject: FTE Pre61 - shop sources in NoCAL
>searching for sources in NoCAL: mechanics, shops,
>visionaries...

>I'm looking for a shop or mechanic, in or around the
>San Francisco Bay area, who "knows" my 53 f100.

>It seems if you don't drive a Porsche or Honda in
this >city, your'e S.O.L--I can't even find a mechanic
who >will look at my truck and had to drive 100 miles
to >Sacramento for transmission service.

>Eventually, I'll know this truck like the back of my
>hand, but until then and until I get a garage (street
>parking for me), I need to know a mechanic who can
>tackle a job, finish it right and in a reasonable
>time, and not rip me off...(s)he's out there
>somewhere.

>Thanks

>Hunter



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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:32:50 -0800
From: "Ray Cardogno" angelfire.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block

The 54's were different. They were the first year. They changed a few things for 55 and stayed with that for a while. I beleive they made them til the mid sixties (64?).

Ray C
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:01:35 Mark Barnes wrote:
>Howdy,
>I have a '53 F350 that I bought. The motor is there, but needs bolted
>up. The fellow that I bought it from says the motor is a 292 Y block.
>It certainly is a Y block with the extended head mounting area & the
>cross over exhaust pipe. But when comparing to my uncle's '54 F100,
>which he says has a 292 Y block, there are a few small differences like
>the way the oil filter screws on. Mine has a mount for the filter & his
>just screws on to the block. Also the motor mount on the front of the
>motor doesn't look like it is going to bolt up correctly on mine, so we
>figure it may not originally have been a truck motor.
>The serial number on the rating plate of my F350 says it should have
>originally been a 239. The numbers on the block are "ECZ 6015A". Can
>anybody help me identify if my motor really is a 292, & what it
>originally came out of.
>Also, when I get this figured out, I'll be needing a carb & throttle
>linkage, fan & radiator. etc...
>
>Any info is appreciated...
>Thanks...
>Mark
>'53 F350 Dually/ Flatbed
>
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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 1980 15:36:56 -0500
From: "Gary L. Perry" fwi.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block

Mark, I'm not expert, but best I can decipher on your engine I.D. is:
from; American V-8 Data Book, most 54 or 55 engine codes start
with EBU or EBY and turn to B5A or B6A pre-fixes.
The 54 was only year for 239 c.i. engine which had a high mount
waterpump similar to flathead and may require different Rad
housing
so fan don't hit it. There was some list talk recently regarding
this problem.
I believe your 53 should have been a flat-head with two front
mount positions.
Y-blocks have one centered under crank pulley. My LMC Truck
catalog,
(good one w/illustrations, www.lmctruck.com ) shows mounts
(rubber only)
for 53-56 as same and 61-64 with similar yet different mounts
entirely.
I own a 56 COE which I put in a 76 Big truck motor and it fit
right into
frame and b-housing holes. All b-housing mounts are same from
53-64.
Oil filter spin-on adapters are available from several sources
to do away
with clumsy container with harder to find oil filter and gasket.
They are a
small piece and is hidden by filter.
Welcome to the world of Ford parts! Mid-year changes were a
common accurence and still are.
Hope this helps some. There is a Y-block Ford site on-line
also
which may help more, don't have address now, check
www.ford-trucks.com
for link.
"G"

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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:46:00 -0800
From: Dan Wentz earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - oil stick

>I have a 1972 model 302 motor, with a front stump oil pan and I would like
>to change it to a rear stump. My question is the oil stick in same place are
>not ? And if not what would have to be done to get the oil stick in the
>right place .

I did this with my 351 and I had to move the dipstick, but with 302's being
so much more popular you'd no doubt have more options than I did. Here's
what I did: Moroso rear sump extra capacity pan. The stock dipstick
bottoms out in this pan. It comes with a "universal" dipstick that mounts
in the side of the pan. Unfortunately the tube that came with it was too
short to use (wasn't long enough to bend around the exhaust). What I did
instead was get some large diameter steel brake line (3.8"?) and put a
couple bends in it so it would clear the exhaust manifold. The dipstick is
now on the driver's side right behind the exhaust manifold. It's a little
inconvenient but it's manageable. Like I said though, with a 302 you
probably have more options--the Moroso pan was the only one I could find
for my engine.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--No longer dumping coolant all over my parking space...hopefully.
1992 Mustang LX--Now feeling quite weak--maybe IT needs a 351 as well.

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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 1980 16:02:17 -0500
From: "Gary L. Perry" fwi.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: I'm with Russ

Michelle, I would opt for a Valarie or Mustang type unit sold by
lots of sources. Any newer truck is going to be wider and would
have to be narrowed, a VERY difficult job in my book. The
Valarie units cut very little frame away from original truck and
could be done in homeshop or professional. You can have your
project ruined by a poor installation of this type. What's wrong
with what you have now? There are springs to lower and smooth
ride on straight axles available. With new pins and steering joints
you may get a better driver w/out all the bother of changing.
It will be a major downtime either way. You will have to
change a lot of stuff, mounts, steering pump set-up, trans, driveshaft,
linkages,etc, to change to Ford engine. I'ld drive w/Chevy til I
could get ALL the items needed to change over.
Just my thoughts. "G"

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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:09:38 -0800
From: "Jerry & Renee" webzone.net>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: pre61-list-F6 Wheels

I recently purchased an F6 COE (1951) and was wondering if anyone knew of
any one piece wheels available in that bolt pattern? I have found some in
22.5, but was wanting something a tad smaller.
Thanks in advance!

Jerry Mayo
1951 F6 COE
1960 SWB
1995 SWB

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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 17:31:10 -0500
From: "James I. McDaniel" pop.dn.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 292 Y block

"Gary L. Perry" wrote:

> Mark, I'm not expert, but best I can decipher on your engine I.D. is:

<<<<< snipsnipsnip >>>>>

Gary,

You might want to check your Y2K date. Your message showed up here dated 2 Jan
1980. It went to the bottom of my queue and I didn't find it for awhile.

Jim McDaniel
1951 Ford Sheriffs Cruiser
1952 Ford F-1 Pickup

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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 1980 17:53:27 -0500
From: "Gary L. Perry" fwi.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 22.5 wheels

Jerry, I am working on a 56 COE with 6-bolt Budd's.
I changed from 20" to 22.5" one-piece wheels (tubeless)
from a 76 U-haul truck. They only have 8" wide tires on them
that say "made for U-haul not for resale". Tire man says can't
get anymore. 9" and 10" were also made. 10" I've found have
all been retreads, not too good looking. I have 11.5" common
size now, on front, same wheels. They are "snug" to fenders,
don't rub. Too wide for dually mounting w/out rubbing each
other (a no-no). I have not seen 5-bolt wheels for modern
tires like you have found. No tire stores will touch split-rims
as you may have found. There's lots of U-hauls in J-yards
if you want to try used tires and get narrow size.
"G"

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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 20:31:41 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - voting on the new list

At 06:53 PM 12/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>From: JRFieroaol.com
>Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - voting on the new list
>
>In a message dated 12/19/1999 6:51:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>jniolonwans.net writes:
>
> > Why have only 52 people voted ???
>
>- - Because its the wrong question. Should instead be a carefully worded
>question about allowing limited discussion of non-Ford parts.

Because voting numbers are always a small minority of all subscribers.
The pre61 is one of the smallest lists.

>- - Because numerous of us, I bet, never (almost never) go to the website. I
>just did, it took me an inordinate amount of time to find the 'voting' area,
>and even then I didn't vote, 'cause of response 1 above.

I would have figured it would be easy to find. Its on the main menu
bar.

>- - Because we don't know what a 'No' vote means. I don't think there should
>be separate list, but that's because 1) I get too much mail from various
>lists already,

No one would send you mail on the new list unless you subscribed.

Ken Payne

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