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From: owner-pre61-list-digest To: pre61-list-digest Subject: pre61-list-digest V3 #382 Reply-To: pre61-list Sender: owner-pre61-list-digest Errors-To: owner-pre61-list-digest Precedence: bulk pre61-list-digest Thursday, December 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 382 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Charity Event (HELP!) FTE Pre61 - Effie for Sale FTE Pre61 - Re: Gas Tanks FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8 Re: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8 FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine FTE Pre61 - Worth the time to read Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine Re: FTE Pre61 - engine colour Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine Re: FTE Pre61 - Effie for Sale ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:24:42 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Charity Event (HELP!) Due to a late start, and low contributions, the annual charity event has been extended to January 14th. Following is the original announcement... Please help us out, both causes are very worthy of your support. The Association of Ford Truck Enthusiasts (AFTE), the non-profit club made up of Ford Truck Enthusiasts (FTE) users, is holding their first annual charity event (actually, their second, though they were not yet organized as a club them). This year, AFTE is raising funds for two causes: 1. a list member's son who is a paraplegic and could really use a decent laptop with voice recognition software. He became disabled last year and needless to say, he's not in the best of spirits. I think we can bring a little joy into his life. 2. the Georgia LoRiders, a long standing Ford truck club, is raising money for the family of a child found in the family swimming pool. The child is brain damaged and the father must stay home to take care of him because the mother is VERY pregnant. AFTE is going to donate any money left over from item 1 to the Georgia LoRiders for this family. There are three ways you can donate: 1. Send a check or money order to: Association of Ford Truck Enthusiasts re: Charity Drive Box 562 Tecumseh, MI 49286-0562 2. Via credit card on the web. The FTE web site is set up to take credit cards. We're going to add an item to the cart for this. You'll be able to select any amount you want. All funds will be forwarded to AFTE for their drive. The address is: www.motorhaven.com 3. Via credit card on voice mail. FTE's phone number is 770-806-1955. Leave name on card, type of card, card number, expiration date and amount to donate. Also, PLEASE leave an address so we can mail a receipt to you. All funds will be forwarded to AFTE for their drive. This number is busy in the evenings! The laptop purchase receipt and the check cut to the Georgia LoRiders will be scanned and placed on the web site so everyone will know their donations were well spent. There will be zero administration costs. All money will be spent for the charity. We're trying to raise at least $1500. Regards, Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:15:52 -0500 From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Effie for Sale We came to the tough decision of placing Effie up for sale. Here is a link to the information if anyone on the list know of someone with sincere interest. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227329917 Regards to all for a great new year. Howard == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:49:47 -0600 From: "Terry" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Gas Tanks >The gas tank out of my 59 f-100 has developed small pin holes due >to prolonged lack of use, and I was wondering if there was any company that >either sold replacements or could possibly fix mine, Since most tank leaks work their way out from the inside, you can assume that there is a rusty situation where the water is sitting at the lowest part of the tank. It is really easy to solder the pin holes up with a home made soldering iron(copper). As long as there is still the galvanized coasting on the outside, you can flow the solder over the whole area and fix it better than sliming the inside with some epoxy derivitive. I have repaired dozens of tanks, including late models that still looked new inside, but had developed pin holes from sitting water. If the tank is varnished or has residue, you need to let some potassium hydroxide sit in the tank for a few days. Slosh it around several times while it soaks. Then you will be able to find all of the leaks to fix. You should clean it out weither you solder it or just decide to slime the inside. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:44:52 -0800 From: "Kreig McBride" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8 So today I wandered out and tried the truck engine again(Flathead 8). Took a wrench to the genrator pully and tightened the belt. Engine wouldn't budge. Jacked up rear end and put her in 4th gear. Rear right wheel won't turn and left wheel will rock back and forth but engine won't turn. I think the right rear wheel is stuck somehow. There seems to be no access to the front engine pully/nut. Trying to get the engine loose to see if it will run. Starter won't turn when electricity is applied. Poured more oil into the cylinders and not sure what to do. Kreig in Bellingham == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:11:58 -0500 From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8 Hi Kreig, Have you tried to drop the flywheel cover and a then taking a flywheel wrench to it? You may be able to borrow the tool from a transmission shop. Howard - -----Original Message----- From: Kreig McBride To: pre61-list Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:03 PM Subject: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8 >So today I wandered out and tried the truck engine again(Flathead 8). >Took a wrench to the genrator pully and tightened the belt. Engine wouldn't >budge. >Jacked up rear end and put her in 4th gear. Rear right wheel won't turn and >left wheel will rock back and forth but engine won't turn. I think the right >rear wheel is stuck somehow. There seems to be no access to the front >engine pully/nut. >Trying to get the engine loose to see if it will run. >Starter won't turn when electricity is applied. >Poured more oil into the cylinders and not sure what to do. > >Kreig in Bellingham > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:27:02 -0800 From: "Kreig McBride" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine OK Ok OK Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8 I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid. I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to "loosen" the pistons. I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very gentle methods as recommended. When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see. Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option. I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will see. Thanks for all of the help. Kreig in Bellingham == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:49:22 -0500 From: Paul Subject: FTE Pre61 - Worth the time to read I thought you might like this: Can you imagine working at the following Company? It has a little over 500 employees with the following statistics: 29 have been accused of spousal abuse 7 have been arrested for fraud 19 have been accused of writing bad checks 117 have bankrupted at least two businesses 3 have been arrested for assault 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges 8 have been arrested for shoplifting 21 are current defendants in lawsuits In 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving Can you guess which organization this is? Give up? It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The same group that perpetually cranks out hundreds upon hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:11:27 -0500 From: "sam fugate" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine Hey Kreig, How are you tapping the top of the pistons with the heads still on the engine? The flathead engines valves are directly under the spark plug holes (well, almost) not the pistons. The only way to tap the pistons is to remove the heads. Just a little input. Sam in Mount Sterling - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kreig McBride To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:27 PM Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine > OK Ok OK > Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8 > I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid. > I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to > "loosen" the pistons. > I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very > gentle methods as recommended. > When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see. > > Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option. > > I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will see. > > Thanks for all of the help. > > Kreig in Bellingham > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:03:22 -0800 From: sainey Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine I had the same problem with my 39 when I got it. Engine was stuck. I soaked the cylinders with a penetrating oil with no luck. Finally pulled the heads (took about 45 min). Took a block of wood and a hammer and gently tapped all of the pistons. Then put a socket on the crankshaft pulley (I think it's about an 1 1/4" or 1 3/8") then using a large half in drive ratchet wiggled it back an forth until it came free. Depending on how stuck it is depends how many times you have to repeat this procedure. Although if it doesn't come free after 2 or 3 times it probably won't. It worked for me and I put the heads back on and had the engine running that day. Steve 39 1/2 ton Hopped up Flathead Kreig McBride wrote: > OK Ok OK > Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8 > I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid. > I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to > "loosen" the pistons. > I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very > gentle methods as recommended. > When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see. > > Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option. > > I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will see. > > Thanks for all of the help. > > Kreig in Bellingham > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 21:49:28 -0600 From: JeffH Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - engine colour Well, my original '50 flathead is rust-colored..... ;) =====jeffh Another fine message brought to you by the Screaming Penguins: Unnoficial site of the "John Madden for President" campaign! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:58:29 -0800 From: "Kreig McBride" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine Oh. Some one recommended I tap the pistons. Guess that option isn't an option. This internet thing isn't so good. Now everyone in the whole world knows how much of a dummy I am. Kreig - -----Original Message----- From: sam fugate To: pre61-list Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:03 PM Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine >Hey Kreig, >How are you tapping the top of the pistons with the heads still on the >engine? >The flathead engines valves are directly under the spark plug holes (well, >almost) not the pistons. The only way to tap the pistons is to remove the >heads. >Just a little input. >Sam in Mount Sterling >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kreig McBride >To: >Cc: >Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:27 PM >Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine > > >> OK Ok OK >> Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8 >> I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid. >> I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to >> "loosen" the pistons. >> I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very >> gentle methods as recommended. >> When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see. >> >> Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option. >> >> I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will >see. >> >> Thanks for all of the help. >> >> Kreig in Bellingham >> >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:17:29 -0800 From: Dan Laray To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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