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pre61-list-digest Thursday, December 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 382



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Charity Event (HELP!)
FTE Pre61 - Effie for Sale
FTE Pre61 - Re: Gas Tanks
FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8
Re: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8
FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine
FTE Pre61 - Worth the time to read
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine
Re: FTE Pre61 - engine colour
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine
Re: FTE Pre61 - Effie for Sale

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:24:42 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Charity Event (HELP!)

Due to a late start, and low contributions, the annual charity
event has been extended to January 14th. Following is the
original announcement... Please help us out, both causes are
very worthy of your support.

The Association of Ford Truck Enthusiasts (AFTE), the non-profit
club made up of Ford Truck Enthusiasts (FTE) users, is holding
their first annual charity event (actually, their second, though
they were not yet organized as a club them).

This year, AFTE is raising funds for two causes:

1. a list member's son who is a paraplegic and could really
use a decent laptop with voice recognition software. He
became disabled last year and needless to say, he's not
in the best of spirits. I think we can bring a little
joy into his life.
2. the Georgia LoRiders, a long standing Ford truck club,
is raising money for the family of a child found in the
family swimming pool. The child is brain damaged and the
father must stay home to take care of him because the mother
is VERY pregnant. AFTE is going to donate any money left
over from item 1 to the Georgia LoRiders for this family.

There are three ways you can donate:

1. Send a check or money order to:
Association of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
re: Charity Drive
Box 562
Tecumseh, MI 49286-0562

2. Via credit card on the web. The FTE web site is set up
to take credit cards. We're going to add an item to the
cart for this. You'll be able to select any amount you
want. All funds will be forwarded to AFTE for their
drive. The address is:
www.motorhaven.com

3. Via credit card on voice mail. FTE's phone number is
770-806-1955. Leave name on card, type of card, card
number, expiration date and amount to donate. Also,
PLEASE leave an address so we can mail a receipt to you.
All funds will be forwarded to AFTE for their drive.
This number is busy in the evenings!

The laptop purchase receipt and the check cut to the Georgia LoRiders
will be scanned and placed on the web site so everyone will know their
donations were well spent. There will be zero administration costs.
All money will be spent for the charity. We're trying to raise at
least $1500.

Regards,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:15:52 -0500
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" qnci.net>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Effie for Sale

We came to the tough decision of placing Effie up for
sale.

Here is a link to the information if anyone on the list know
of someone with sincere interest.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227329917

Regards to all for a great new year.

Howard

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:49:47 -0600
From: "Terry" ticnet.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Gas Tanks

>The gas tank out of my 59 f-100 has developed small pin holes due
>to prolonged lack of use, and I was wondering if there was any company that
>either sold replacements or could possibly fix mine,

Since most tank leaks work their way out from the inside, you can assume
that there is a rusty situation where the water is sitting at the lowest
part of the tank. It is really easy to solder the pin holes up with a home
made soldering iron(copper). As long as there is still the galvanized
coasting on the outside, you can flow the solder over the whole area and fix
it better than sliming the inside with some epoxy derivitive. I have
repaired dozens of tanks, including late models that still looked new
inside, but had developed pin holes from sitting water. If the tank is
varnished or has residue, you need to let some potassium hydroxide sit in
the tank for a few days. Slosh it around several times while it soaks. Then
you will be able to find all of the leaks to fix. You should clean it out
weither you solder it or just decide to slime the inside.

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:44:52 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride" memes.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8

So today I wandered out and tried the truck engine again(Flathead 8).
Took a wrench to the genrator pully and tightened the belt. Engine wouldn't
budge.
Jacked up rear end and put her in 4th gear. Rear right wheel won't turn and
left wheel will rock back and forth but engine won't turn. I think the right
rear wheel is stuck somehow. There seems to be no access to the front
engine pully/nut.
Trying to get the engine loose to see if it will run.
Starter won't turn when electricity is applied.
Poured more oil into the cylinders and not sure what to do.

Kreig in Bellingham


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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:11:58 -0500
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" qnci.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8

Hi Kreig,

Have you tried to drop the flywheel cover and a then taking
a flywheel wrench to it? You may be able to borrow the tool
from a transmission shop.

Howard
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From: Kreig McBride memes.com>
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Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:03 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Starting v-8


>So today I wandered out and tried the truck engine again(Flathead 8).
>Took a wrench to the genrator pully and tightened the belt. Engine wouldn't
>budge.
>Jacked up rear end and put her in 4th gear. Rear right wheel won't turn
and
>left wheel will rock back and forth but engine won't turn. I think the
right
>rear wheel is stuck somehow. There seems to be no access to the front
>engine pully/nut.
>Trying to get the engine loose to see if it will run.
>Starter won't turn when electricity is applied.
>Poured more oil into the cylinders and not sure what to do.
>
>Kreig in Bellingham
>
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:27:02 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride" memes.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine

OK Ok OK
Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8
I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid.
I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to
"loosen" the pistons.
I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very
gentle methods as recommended.
When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see.

Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option.

I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will see.

Thanks for all of the help.

Kreig in Bellingham

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:49:22 -0500
From: Paul cfw.com>
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Worth the time to read

I thought you might like this:


Can you imagine working at the following Company? It has a little over
500
employees with the following statistics:

29 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad checks
117 have bankrupted at least two businesses
3 have been arrested for assault
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 are current defendants in lawsuits
In 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving


Can you guess which organization this is? Give up?




It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The same group
that
perpetually cranks out hundreds upon hundreds of new laws designed to
keep
the rest of us in line.
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:11:27 -0500
From: "sam fugate" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine

Hey Kreig,
How are you tapping the top of the pistons with the heads still on the
engine?
The flathead engines valves are directly under the spark plug holes (well,
almost) not the pistons. The only way to tap the pistons is to remove the
heads.
Just a little input.
Sam in Mount Sterling
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From: Kreig McBride memes.com>
To: atis.net>
Cc: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:27 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine


> OK Ok OK
> Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8
> I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid.
> I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to
> "loosen" the pistons.
> I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very
> gentle methods as recommended.
> When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see.
>
> Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option.
>
> I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will
see.
>
> Thanks for all of the help.
>
> Kreig in Bellingham
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:03:22 -0800
From: sainey impop.bellatlantic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine

I had the same problem with my 39 when I got it. Engine was stuck. I soaked
the cylinders with a penetrating oil with no luck. Finally pulled the heads
(took about 45 min). Took a block of wood and a hammer and gently tapped all
of the pistons. Then put a socket on the crankshaft pulley (I think it's about
an 1 1/4" or 1 3/8") then using a large half in drive ratchet wiggled it back
an forth until it came free. Depending on how stuck it is depends how many
times you have to repeat this procedure. Although if it doesn't come free
after 2 or 3 times it probably won't. It worked for me and I put the heads
back on and had the engine running that day.

Steve

39 1/2 ton Hopped up Flathead

Kreig McBride wrote:

> OK Ok OK
> Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8
> I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid.
> I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to
> "loosen" the pistons.
> I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very
> gentle methods as recommended.
> When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see.
>
> Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option.
>
> I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will see.
>
> Thanks for all of the help.
>
> Kreig in Bellingham
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 21:49:28 -0600
From: JeffH icon-stl.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - engine colour

Well, my original '50 flathead is rust-colored..... ;)

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:58:29 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride" memes.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine

Oh. Some one recommended I tap the pistons. Guess that option isn't an
option.
This internet thing isn't so good. Now everyone in the whole world knows how
much of a dummy I am.

Kreig
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From: sam fugate ford-trucks.com>
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com ford-trucks.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine


>Hey Kreig,
>How are you tapping the top of the pistons with the heads still on the
>engine?
>The flathead engines valves are directly under the spark plug holes (well,
>almost) not the pistons. The only way to tap the pistons is to remove the
>heads.
>Just a little input.
>Sam in Mount Sterling
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kreig McBride memes.com>
>To: atis.net>
>Cc: ford-trucks.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:27 PM
>Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: still trying to start truck engine
>
>
>> OK Ok OK
>> Heres the plan with the Ford Flathead V8
>> I will fill all cylinders to the top with a penetrating liquid.
>> I will gently tap on the piston tops with a wood or soft brass rod to
>> "loosen" the pistons.
>> I will continue to try and rotate the engine using one of several very
>> gentle methods as recommended.
>> When all else fails I will remove the heads and have a look-see.
>>
>> Towing the truck to rotate the engine is not an option.
>>
>> I was hoping to get the engine running and avoid a rebuild but we will
>see.
>>
>> Thanks for all of the help.
>>
>> Kreig in Bellingham
>>
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>
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:17:29 -0800
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