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pre61-list-digest Thursday, December 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 366



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - My 2 cents
FTE Pre61 - 59 Stepside Bumper
RE: FTE Pre61 - 59 Stepside Bumper
FTE Pre61 - re: The Power of a Y-block
RE: FTE Pre61 - re: The Power of a Y-block
FTE Pre61 - 39 Truck Picture
Re: FTE Pre61 - re: The Power of a Y-block
FTE Pre61 - Ref: The Power of a Y-Block
Re: FTE Pre61 - Starts like new
Re: FTE Pre61 - 39 Truck Picture
FTE Pre61 - 46 gas tank mounting
FTE Pre61 - 59 Stepside fender
Re: FTE Pre61 - My 2 cents
Re: FTE Pre61 - 46 gas tank mounting
Re: FTE Pre61 - 46 gas tank mounting

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:34:10 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - My 2 cents

Concerning the Ch*vy engine issue..... my opinion on this
has never been a "my way or the highway." Its just a strong
suggestion that Ch*vy engines are best discussed in the
performance/hotrod list we host. In this day and age, there
is really no good reason for putting a 350 in a Ford, 302s
are cheap and so is the aftermarket. Kits are plentiful
and putting one in an Effie is easy. The fact that there
isn't much in the way of Ch*vy resources on the net shows
that as a group, they aren't technically sophisticated.

If you start talking Ch*vy engines, you start diluting
content. Where would you draw the line? Putting one
in? Tuning it? What about intake manifold discussion?
Aren't you then getting into areas that are **purely**
Ch*vy? This issue was hammered over by the core members
a long time ago. They worked long and hard on a paragraph
that is now not only part of the non-profit club's
charter, but the web site's as well:

"All F-series pickups, E-series vans, Explorers, Expeditions, Rangers,
Broncos, Bronco IIs, Aerostars and pre-F series pickups (T's, A's, etc).
In addition, Mercury and Econoline trucks are allowed. Any truck
considered in discussions must be recognizable as a Ford family truck and
must be powered by an engine based on one originally installed in a Ford,
Mercury, or Lincoln vehicle at the factory, but can be assembled using
Ford pattern, after-market blocks and heads, as long as it is recognizable
as a Ford,Mercury, or Lincoln engine. Use of other brand rods, rod bolts,
valves, non-stock carbs, etc. is considered within the normal scope of
Custom Truck Craft and is acceptable. "

However, we've always had votes on major issues. I know
that the 350 is a very common engine in the Effie's (has
high as 25% of them have them). So, I'll add a vote to
the web site. I'll announce it when its ready.

Later,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:27:15 -0600
From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 59 Stepside Bumper

To the best of my knowledge, the stepside fenders from 53-72 are all the same,
it's just that it's virtually impossible to locate the replacement "running
board"/"step" pieces (but I know you've found a way around that, Rob).

If anyone has any idea who might be making the "steps" for a stepside, I'd be
grateful to hear from you.

Brian Nyman
bnyman allina.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:40:30 -0600
From: "Byron Rosbrugh"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 59 Stepside Bumper

Noticed the desire for information concerning someone making steps for the
after 1956 stepside. I purchased a 1956 truck for restoration which had a
different bed, and turns out it is a late 50,s early 60's bed, with perfect
little stepside 18" long running boards, which I cannot use. Also, the
fenders are mounted one and a half inches higher on the sides of the bed,
making the bed uncompatible with the 1956 running boards. So, for someone
who wants to trade a bed, or bed sides, along with the steps, or running
boards which are for a 57 or later, let me know. Byron

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To the best of my knowledge, the stepside fenders from 53-72 are all the
same,
it's just that it's virtually impossible to locate the replacement "running
board"/"step" pieces (but I know you've found a way around that, Rob).

If anyone has any idea who might be making the "steps" for a stepside, I'd
be
grateful to hear from you.

Brian Nyman
bnyman allina.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:17:30 -0800
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - re: The Power of a Y-block

Don I always knew that when people told me that FORD stood for Found On Road
Dead they were really talking about what some good Samaritan Ford owner had
found when they had stopped to assist some other less fortunate owner of
another vehicle.

Gota love it when a classic truck can still do what a truck is supposed to
do.


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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:56:21 -0800
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - re: The Power of a Y-block

Here Here! I totally agree. One of my fondest memories is when I was at a
show with my club and got a call that one of the members broke down on the
way to the hotel. Hooked up my little old 55 and pulled his 50 Ch*vy, with
a 350 Ch*vy engine all the way back to the hotel. He had to trailer it
home. We drove! Even got a picture. He doesn't give me much grief about
Fords anymore.

Denny
55F100

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> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
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> Don I always knew that when people told me that FORD stood for Found On
> Road
> Dead they were really talking about what some good Samaritan Ford owner
> had
> found when they had stopped to assist some other less fortunate owner of
> another vehicle.
>
> Gota love it when a classic truck can still do what a truck is supposed to
> do.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:51:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Winford Rister
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 39 Truck Picture

I know of a 39 3/4 ton pickup for sale. I can't find a picture of a 39 or
38 on the web. I would like to know what it looks like before I take a
fairly long trip to see it. Does anyone know of a web site which has a 38
or 39 truck picture?



Still wiring my '54

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:44 EST
From: Filzdad aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - re: The Power of a Y-block

To the owner of the C***y crewcab that had highcentered himself on a snow bank in White's Pass in Washington's Cascade mountains five weeks ago: We'll pass on your thanks to the driver of the 99 Ford 250 and me in my '49 F-1 as the good sams who pulled you out, to the rest of the FTE's. Okay, Toulouse and I directed traffic, but we were there at the top in the storm with a tow chain (albeit with two 100# oak rounds in the back!) I love my truck; she even got her own grill wreath for the holidays. Speaking of which - Merry Christmas all!

Matt
'49 F-1 'Toulouse'
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:05:53 -0800
From: "Bob"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Ref: The Power of a Y-Block

I gotta brag, folks. I can't help it!
I was driving home this evening trying to identify a couple of new
noises Grover has started making when I saw a couple of cars on the side
of the road, and a guy waving down traffic.
>>>snip
I hopped back into Grover, eased out on the
clutch, and that old truck didn't even grunt as the Mazda pulled free!!
Woohoo! I guess those 4.86 gears are pretty handy after all! Grover
didn't even spin his tires.
>>>>snip

Hey Way To Go Grover!!

Bob

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:28:13 -0600
From: "Roger Hughes"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Starts like new

I know how that feels. I rebuilt the starter in my 55 F100 right after I
got my truck with help from a friend. It is a 6 volt unit in a 12 volt
truck (converted). Starts easy every time now.

Roger
55 F100


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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:43:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 39 Truck Picture

There is a photo of a 38 2ton at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.oldtrucks.com/ford/
Scott

- --- Winford Rister wrote:
> I know of a 39 3/4 ton pickup for sale. I can't find a picture of a
> 39 or
> 38 on the web. I would like to know what it looks like before I take
> a
> fairly long trip to see it. Does anyone know of a web site which has
> a 38
> or 39 truck picture?
>
>
>
> Still wiring my '54
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:55:09 -0600
From: Don Lewis
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 46 gas tank mounting

I pulled the gas tank on my '46 to rehab it and noticed that it had only
one mounting bolt but there appeared to be brackets and holes for 3. The
configuration I have is as shown with the x's indicating where the holes in
the tank match square holes in brackets.

________________x
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x| |
| |
|_______________|
x
The left side has a bolt, spring, washer and castle nut. The right side
doesn't have any attachments (don't know what happened to them). I can put
carriage bolts on the right side but want to know if there should be any
springs, bushings or the like for suspension. The service manual says
"Remove the two tank mounting bolts from the tank bracket on the right side
and the one mounting bolt and spring from the tank on the left side". No
mention of springs on the right side. The chassis parts catalog (Green
Book) also doesn't show any springs or bushings on the right side. It seems
strange that the tank would be solidly mounted on the right side and sprung
on the left side. Does anyone have any thoughts or knowledge to share?

Don Lewis
'46 1/2 ton
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:57:35 -0600
From: "Terry"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 59 Stepside fender

I have a '59 Stepside with a left rear fender scooped out for the spare
tire. A NOS fender is for sale in the classifieds, but it is listed as
being for a 53-56.



I am pretty sure that the only difference on the fenders is where the
running board goes on the earlier models. Aside from that they should
interchange up to 1972.

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:13:16 -0800
From: Dan Laray
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - My 2 cents

Ken - could we have some dialog about how the vote is worded ? I am in favor
of it within reason, i.e. installation and fabrication seems reasonable. But I
would draw the line at diagnosis and modifications, folks should go to a chevy
site for that. My .02
Dan
56 Effie - 351w

Ken Payne wrote:

> Concerning the Ch*vy engine issue..... my opinion on this
> has never been a "my way or the highway." ..... So, I'll add a vote to
> the web site. I'll announce it when its ready.
>
> Later,
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 02:44:09 EST
From: GILASAILR aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 46 gas tank mounting

Don,
I believe the mounting in my 47 1/2 ton was the same way. Probable reason -
to reduce the chance of fatique in the mounting flanges-??? It seems to have
worked for a couple of years now.

Good Luck and Happy Holidays to ALL Gary O.
" Live and Love, Share and Care" -Dr. John
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 02:45:08 -0500
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 46 gas tank mounting

At 09:55 PM 12/15/1999 -0600, Don Lewis wrote:
>It seems
>strange that the tank would be solidly mounted on the right side and sprung
>on the left side. Does anyone have any thoughts or knowledge to share?

As I recall, the gas tank on my 35 has similar mounting: spring bolts on
one side but not the other. My guess is that the purpose of the springs is
to allow the frame to flex without adding too much stress to the tank so it
would be okay (and cheaper) to have the tank solidly mounted on one side.....


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