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pre61-list-digest Friday, December 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 359



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud
Re: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project
Re: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project
Re: FTE Pre61 - Radials on 17 inch rims
RE: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project
FTE Pre61 - RE: Door Seals
Re: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project
FTE Pre61 - Wheels
Re: FTE Pre61 - Radials on 17 inch rims
FTE Pre61 - Re: Radial Tires/Stock Rims
FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud
FTE Pre61 - xmembers
Re: FTE Pre61 - xmembers
Re: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud
Re: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud
[none]
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: New Ford trucks

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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 08:01:45 -0500
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud

Roger Hughes wrote:

> just one belt. When I put the 292 in my 55 F100, will I need to get a
> different fan shroud? Or maybe a different radiator mount? Maybe a 56 F100
> radiator mount is lower than my 55. Just don't see how things will line up
> yet.

Between the two of use, and if it were me, I'd use the original
engine parts on the new engine, and neglect to mention it to the casual
looker. It has always been a source of amazement to me how many people
can glance at an old truck, and say this or that is not stock. All that
water pump and other stuff should interchange, leaving a stock look, and
no clearance problems.

47Fred
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:18:17 -0500
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project

NOS is "New Old Stock".
I agree....if it aint broke dont fix it.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ed Ellston
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 3:50 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project


>I'll have my old truck home by the weekend and my
>first project will be to get the new locks installed
>since I don't have the door key for the old one. I
>have received information on replacing them both.
>Prices I have are as follows:
>
>Door locks 12.00 each, NOS Ignition Switch 80.00
>each, NOS ignition key cylinder is 50.00. A couple of
>questions in this regard: 1. What does "NOS" mean? 2.
>I don't know if I want to replace the Ignition Switch.
> Am I wrong?
>
>I tend to think the old fashion way of "if it ain't
>broke don't fix it". The objective is to make the
>truck secure at this point and not to replace
>everything.
>
>Your thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>Ed and the old truck
>
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 08:29:32 -0500
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project

Ed Ellston wrote:

> Door locks 12.00 each, NOS Ignition Switch 80.00
> each, NOS ignition key cylinder is 50.00. A couple of
> questions in this regard: 1. What does "NOS" mean? 2.
> I don't know if I want to replace the Ignition Switch.
> Am I wrong?
>
NOS: "New Old Stock", indicates a part produced, contemporary with the
vehicle, by, or for, the OEM that was never installed. As opposed to
"reproduction" or "aftermarket" which denote parts built, supposedly, to
OEM specifications, sometimes under license, and just plain replacement
parts you could get at a auto parts store.

If the ignition switch operates the door locks, it would be desirable
to replace both, but as long as you have a key to the truck, and a key
to the door, well??. IF you have the ignition key, it is not that hard
to swap the cylinder to match the door, it is not necessary to change
the whole switch.

47Fred
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:41:44 EST
From: Fordf3 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Radials on 17 inch rims

i have a 48 F-3 and am interested in replies to your query
Ed Reiner
Drexel hill Pa
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:33:07 -0800
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project

Ed,

A good locksmith should be able to make you a key for your existing door
locks in about 10 minutes. When I bought my 55 I had the same problem. The
locksmith went out side with me and started hand filing. I think it only
cost me about $10.

Dennis
55F100

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> From: Ed Ellston[SMTP:eellston yahoo.com]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:54 PM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project
>
> I'll have my old truck home by the weekend and my
> first project will be to get the new locks installed
> since I don't have the door key for the old one. I
> have received information on replacing them both.
> Prices I have are as follows:
>
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:03:51 -0800
From: Carver
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: Door Seals

Just for pricing comparison, a pair of door seals for a '64 is $75,
and the remaining winbow stuff is about $200 for a pair. This is
from Sacramento Vintage Ford. I've done one door and the fit is
excellent, other than the slight area of non-contact due to
my brother 'altering' the top of the door area (rolled it onto it's side).

Now double that for my crewcab!

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab 292
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:59:32 -0600
From: "Randy Selby"
Subject: FTE Pre61 -

I've been looking through my wish books tonight for door seal kits for my
50. According to the catalogs that I have, looks like $200 is the average
price. Is this about right, or am I overlooking a better source? The kit
includes door seals, glass runs, division bars, anti-rattlers, and vent
seals.


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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:04:14 -0500
From: "Bill Robinson"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project

How sweet it is to live where I can leave the
keys in the ignition & not worry!!!!
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ed Ellston
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 2:47 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 49 F-1 Ignition and Door Key Project


>I'll have my old truck home by the weekend and my
>first project will be to get the new locks installed
>since I don't have the door key for the old one. I
>have received information on replacing them both.
>Prices I have are as follows:
>
>Door locks 12.00 each, NOS Ignition Switch 80.00
>each, NOS ignition key cylinder is 50.00. A couple of
>questions in this regard: 1. What does "NOS" mean? 2.
>I don't know if I want to replace the Ignition Switch.
> Am I wrong?
>
>I tend to think the old fashion way of "if it ain't
>broke don't fix it". The objective is to make the
>truck secure at this point and not to replace
>everything.
>
>Your thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>Ed and the old truck
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place.
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>

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:09:59 -0800
From: Carver
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Wheels

I haven't bought them yet, but Stockton Wheel quoted me $65 each
to build wheels in the original style but made for radials. They
actually build them. I could specify the width, offset, etc.
Coker wanted $75 and were only availble in one width/offset, and
with a no return policy. Guess who I'm going with when the time
comes! www.stocktonwheel or something as easy as that, don't have
it bookmarked, it's that easy to find.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab


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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 10:10:40 EST
From: "Dean Loughner"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Radials on 17 inch rims

Do you know where I can find original hubcaps for a 1960 F-100, it has 15 in
rims. If you do I appriciate your information, if not thanks for your time.

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:52:49 EST
From: HDMel95 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Radial Tires/Stock Rims

My feelings and experience (Many Years) (Very Old)
If you are going to drive it.........put radials on it. If you are going to
show it........it doesn't matter.
The only major thing to watch is, because we can go sooooooo wide with
radials, be sure the width of your rim can handle it. If the rim is too
narrow, the tread doesn't meet the pavement correctly and the bead may not
seat well. If you need to get a wider rim and keep your stock centers, that
can be done. Wheels Vintiques and Stockton Wheel have done it for me in the
past.

Mel
1953 F100
1934 5w
1934 Roadster
1970 El Camino
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:15:06 EST
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud

Check to see if the water pump from the 239 will fit the 292. If so buy a new
water pump and go that rout. It is possible that the 292 engine came form a
passenger car, and has a different set up for the water pump. I am a little
pressed for time at the moment, but I will run some part numbers for you
tonight, and see what will fit what.

Michelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:41:20 -0500
From: "sam fugate"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - xmembers

Dennis,
I xploded the pic, maybe you can see the xmember a little better,
http://www.ford-trucks.com/afte/fugate51/trans1.jpg
I'll get real close and take one for you in a couple o' days.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/afte/fugate51/side1.jpg
a different angle.

L8R
Still working on my 51
Sam Fugate




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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:00:58 EST
From: "Dean Loughner"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - xmembers

Can anyone help me find original hubcaps for my 1960 F-100? I want to get
them for my dad for Christmas, but don't know where to start looking. Any
help is appreciated. Thanks!

Dean-o

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:14:22 EST
From: Dpb289 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud

I have been in a similar situation where I purchase another Y-block that I
was told was a 272 out of a 1955 truck. To my amazement the engine has
nothing in common with my 239. Nothing will interchange. The engine code on
the heads show EAL6090A. Does anyone know what kind of Y-block this is?

Dave

P.S. By the way thanks for all the input on my previous question regarding
rebuilding heads on Y-Blocks.

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:34:54 -0500
From: "Joe Michels"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Hughes
To: Ford Trucks
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:56 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fan and Fan Shroud


> I was comparing the water pumps between my 239 Y block in my truck and the
> 292 I am tearing down for a rebuild. The 239 water pump has the fan
mounted
> high on a flange that is part of the pump, with two slots to adjust the
belt
> tension. It has a separate belt just for the fan. The 292 had the fan
> bolted to the pump shaft pulley, which lowers the fan a few inches and has
> just one belt. When I put the 292 in my 55 F100, will I need to get a
> different fan shroud? Or maybe a different radiator mount? Maybe a 56
F100
> radiator mount is lower than my 55. Just don't see how things will line
up
> yet.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:26:30 -0800
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: [none]

>I've been looking through my wish books tonight for door seal kits for my
>50. According to the catalogs that I have, looks like $200 is the average
>price. Is this about right, or am I overlooking a better source? The kit
>includes door seals, glass runs, division bars, anti-rattlers, and vent
>seals.

Sounds about right. I just did my windows, including glass, last weekend
so it's still fresh in my memory. I bought a kit from Sacramento Vintage
with glass runs, division bars, anti-rattlers (what a pain to install) for
both doors for $100. Vent seals are another $45 and the door seals run
$55. Prices I've seen seem pretty consistent from place to place.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Once again stopping under it's own power.
1992 Mustang LX--A fine vehicle if ever there was one...apart from the clutch.

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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:23:33 -0500
From: Ken Payne....


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