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pre61-list-digest Saturday, December 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 352



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery
FTE Pre61 - Tires
Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery
FTE Pre61 - Y-Block ID
FTE Pre61 - brake and fuel ine plumbing
Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery
Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery
FTE Pre61 - Diesels, Pulling, & CrewCabs?, Gotta deal for you!
FTE Pre61 - Quick Intro
FTE Pre61 - '59, '60 For Sale Sacramento Area, also '84 hauler

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:49:08 -0500
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

Andy,

We have a 55 F100 and I went the radial route. While they did end
the drift at highway speeds I was not very pleased with city driving.
Went back to bias ply WWW's that I got from Coker Tire.

Howard
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andy Montebello
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 10:47 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires


>I'm ready to replace the 6.50x16 tires on my 1950 pickup with new tires.
>
>I have 15" wheels from a 1966 Ford pickup that I can use.
>
>Would anyone comment on radials on a stock suspension?
>
>Size? 235X78R15? 215X78R15?
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:33:40 EST
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery

In a message dated 12/2/1999 9:29:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
eellston yahoo.com writes:

> At the risk of sounding like a newbie I was wondering
> how you charge a 6 volt battery. Can you use a 12
> volt charger on it?
>
I have a fully automatic 6 or 12V charger I got from Griot's Garage of
Tacoma, WA. I just looked on the catalog and found they have a website,
griotsgarage.com, but I've never checked and I'm offline now. The charger
has NO switches or settings. You connect it, plug it in, and it figures out
the rest. Hook it up backwards and it won't do anything. Little red light
when it's charging, blinks when fully charged. Works slick, but its about
$100.
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:21:13 -0800
From: "Mike Bishop"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires

To Andy with the '50 F-1: Other than a rearend swap to an F-100 9-inch, the
only change I have made to an F-1 I purchased last year was the wheel and
tire combo--15-inch wheels with 205/70R-15 and 235/70R-15 radials. The truck
was transformed from tired old ranch truck to a pleasant driver, in both
ride and handling qualities. And that's with well-worn suspension bushings.
The steering gearbox is in excellent shape, although it didn't feel that way
with the 6.50-16 bias-ply tires. With the radials, not only is the steering
precise (relatively), it is much lighter. The truck is slated for a '50s
style hot rodding with a dropped axle and reverse-eye springs, along with
total mechanical rebuild of the chassis. If radials can benefit a tired old
chassis, just imagine what they will do to one that's in as-new condition!

Based on my experience, I say go with the radials.

Mike Bishop


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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:46:29 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery

At 12:57 AM 12/3/99 -0400, you wrote:
>You could find a 6 volt zener diode and place it in series with one of the
>leads going to the battery. Just make sure that you watch polarity and that
>the zener has enough wattage ( current ) capacity. Watts = current ( I ) *
>voltage ( V). For a 10 amp charger you would need: 6V zener * 10 amps = 60
>watt zener min. Zener usually are rated in current, go to any electronic
>parts store and explain what you want to do.

Wow. Yep, a zener would work, but a 60 watt zener would be a BIG,
expensive chunk of diode and would need a massive heat sink to
stay alive.
It certainly isn't something you'll find at Radio Shack!
I've got a Motorola "Rectifiers and Zener diodes" data book here in
front of me, and the biggest zenre listed is *10* watts continuous power.
A 1N3998 has a zener voltage of 6.2 volts and a max continuous curent
rating of 1.46 amps. Not nearly adequate...
I know that larger zeners are made, but they aren't very common or
easy to find, and I'd bet they cost more than a cheap battery charger...
You could use a series pass transistor with a small zener to do the
job, but it sounds like a lot of hassle when you can buy cheap
battery chargers for 30 bucks..

Steve
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 17:00:31 -0600
From: "Roger Hughes"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Y-Block ID

From: "Dee S. Johnson"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Roger Hughes inquiry

Roger Hughes wrote:>
>> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:38:39 -0600
>> From: "Roger Hughes"
>> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Y Block ID
>>
>> I just bought what was advertised as a 272 Y block complete engine less
the
>> carb with 3 spd OD with drive shaft from a 55 F100. I was told this was
not
>> the original engine in the truck, original 6 cyl.
>>
>> The casting number on the left side of block is EDB 6015 with 8A F on the
>> right side of the block. I think this is a 292 from 1958 or 59. The
heads
>> and intake all have the 8A F code and the 2 bbl intake casting number is
>> B9EA-9425-B and has 4 studs to mount the carb. Heads have 6090 casting
>> number under the rocker arm shaft. Can someone with a parts book decode
>> these numbers and tell me what I actually have? I want to rebuild the
>> engine and get the OD working then drop it in my 55 F100.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Roger
>> 55 F100, 239 Y block on last legs
Gil Baumgartner's Thunderbird Restoration Manual says, "In most cars an
EDB-6015B will be a 292, however some were 312's." So to determine for sure
you need to check the crankcase flange, or the bore and/or stroke

I measured the bore at 3.75 inches which would make this engine a 292.
Thanks for the help.

Roger
55 F100


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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 15:16:30 -0600
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - brake and fuel ine plumbing

Gentlemen,

I'm in the planning stages (walking around and looking) of plumbing the
brakes on my '53 f-100. While I understand what has to be done, I'm sure
there are a lot of little details I need to know that I don't.. i.e.
Line size, brackets, where's the best place to "T" in the rear lines...
where should the residuals be put and the proportioning valves..etc. Is
stainless worth the cost if I'm not going to show the truck...??? I've
got disc brakes front and rear (Volare - Lincoln) and using the Chrysler
Master/Booster. (

Any and all suggestions are welcome... does anyone know of a site with a
good tech article... the magazine stuff I've read skims the project and
skips the little details that will bite you in the ...... Well, we've all
been there, done that...

While we're at it.... the fuel lines will be next... so.............

john


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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 23:00:00 -0400
From: robert.w ns.sympatico.ca (Robert Woodworth)
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery

You're right about the hassle and cost, considering most chargers are
nothing more than a transformer and some diodes. You could hook up a
dropping resistor inline (i.e.) light bulb, to drop some voltage across.
This is not as technical as a zener diode but would do the job with some
experimenting to determine the proper wattage of bulb / resistor.

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 19:49:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed Ellston
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Charging a 6 volt battery

Thanks for all the help in regard to charging a 6V
battery. I went down to Sears Hardware and got myself
an early Christmas present. 6V/12V automatic battery
charger for $50. I don't know why I didn't think of
this option.

One of the many Christmas presents for Ed and his
effie.

Happy Holidays!!

- --- Robert Woodworth wrote:
> You're right about the hassle and cost, considering
> most chargers are
> nothing more than a transformer and some diodes. You
> could hook up a
> dropping resistor inline (i.e.) light bulb, to drop
> some voltage across.
> This is not as technical as a zener diode but would
> do the job with some
> experimenting to determine the proper wattage of
> bulb / resistor.
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 23:58:00 -0800
From: Carver
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Diesels, Pulling, & CrewCabs?, Gotta deal for you!

i know this is outside of the 61-79 year framework, but with
the recent discussion of diesels and such, and being a crewcab,
I just had to let you know of a very cool Ford truck for sale.

Its an '84 F-7000 CrewCab Diesel with 74K miles. Spotted it
in a used car lot in Auburn CA (30 miles east of Sacramento).
There are no typos above, it's a Ford F7000 commercial
with a customized crewcab and a conventional bed in the back
holding up a conventional camper. The hitch on the rear is
rated for 8000 pounds, don't know what the truck is rated at.

Original owner has it on the lot on a consignment basis.
I talked to someone who knew little else, says the price
is in the $30-35K range. 530-885-9723 I'd be very willing to
check it out even further for anyone interested in purchasing
such a fine piece of work.

Being such a fan of crewcabs as I am, I just had to stop and
check it out. Very cool. Excellent condition, I thought it
was lots newer. I have a few pitcures, but it wil be a while
before th roll gets processed. Gotta get a digital someday.

If i had a need for a hauler for a trailer plus people,
it would be the only way to go.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab


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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 00:27:36 -0800
From: Carver
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Quick Intro

Hi all. Just a quick intro. Been on the newer list (61-79) for
a couple of years. Not much discussion of the 292 engine on that
list, so thought I'd lurk here for awhile. Seen a few posts already.

I have a '64 F100 CrewCab that I'm keeping as original as a coachbuilt
can be orignal, including the 292. Truck's been in the family since
'65, learned to drive in it. Engine is the second and has about
200K on it, first one lasted 100K. Whadaya expect hauling around
a 3/4 ton camper on a 1/2 ton with an extra cab!

Anyway, found a set of exhaust manifolds and intake used, but
haven't gotten around to installation.

I'm keeping my eye out for an older truck for one son for his
first vehicle. My oher son has no interest in vehicles.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab


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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 01:06:21 -0800
From: Carver
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '59, '60 For Sale Sacramento Area, also '84 hauler

Spotted this in the local paper:

'60 Ford F250, V8, 2V, 4spd, Very Good condition,
receipts $1500 OBO 530-273-4067
Grass Valley area (40 miles east of Sacramento CA)

I also know of a '59 for sale for $800.
restoration barely started, pregnancy interfered,
and now for sale. Let me know, & I'll stop by
and get a phone number. (I lost it)
Auburn area (30 miles east of Sacramento CA)

And a custom for hauling around your show truck:
'84 F7000 CrewCab, conventional bed with camper,
....


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