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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Two Little Holes in Dash
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
Re: FTE Pre61 - Two Little Holes in Dash
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank - '52 F1
FTE Pre61 - Re: Speedo cables
FTE Pre61 - Re:'54 Ford
Re: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering
RE: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
FTE Pre61 - FE intake
Re: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: New store items
Re: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:09:01 -0500
From: David Hersman
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Two Little Holes in Dash

I think the two holes you inquired about a for mounting the motor for electic
wipers. When I bought our '51 F-1 (in 1968) it had an electric wiper motor
mounted here. When the wipers went bad on Thanksgiving Day, 1968, I tried to
find another one, but all I could find was vacuum type, so that's what it has
had for 21 years.

We went on our honeymoon in this F-1 in 1969. It's the same age as my wife, so
get in trouble if a refer to it as the "old truck."

David Hersman

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> FTE Pre61 - Urban Legends
> FTE Pre61 - RE- Have 16, need 17" Budd wheels
> FTE Pre61 - '54 Ford...
> FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
> FTE Pre61 - Power Steering
> FTE Pre61 - Bread truck
> RE: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
> Re: FTE Pre61 - Bread truck
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:21:39 -0500
> From: The Neighbors
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Urban Legends
>
> I'd like to refer everybody to agreat site that debunks a lot of those
> internet hoaxes and urban legends floating around. It is
> www.urbanlegends.com.. Not only is the site amusing, but very
> informative. I suggest going there with any of the stories you find.
> It's a LOT more fun to talk about our old trucks here.
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> Don Neighbors
> '54 F250 Named Grover
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> "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
> innaccesible part of the vehicle."
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:33:13 -0800
> From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE- Have 16, need 17" Budd wheels
>
> Ray:
>
> Before you do anything else I would contact Stockton Wheel Service,
> stocktonwheel.com 800.395.WHEEL. They are really good and have been around
> a long time (1883). If they can't fix the problem with what you have they
> will have or will make what you need. Good luck.
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:43:10 -0500
> From: "Gemini"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - '54 Ford...
>
> I have a few questions. Did the '54 Ford F-100 come with a horn?? What's
> the original rearend ratio? And does anyone know of a company that makes
> custom speedo cables??
> All help would be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks.
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:15:47 EST
> From: DEADOAK aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
>
> Does anyone know the gas tank capacity for a 52 pickup? Also, there are two
> unidentified holes in the dash just right of center. I have no idea what
> they are for.
>
> thanks
> Charles
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:37:33 -0500
> From: "Earl Capps"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering
>
> I want to add power steering to a 55 F250.
> I found a kit from Bob's F100 that uses a '80's Toyota gear box
> and one from Sacramento Vintage that uses a GM gear box.
> Has anyone used these? Comments?
> Are they any other options out there for the original front end?
>
> earl
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:25:35 -0600
> From: blevins1 itexas.net (Mike Blevins)
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bread truck
>
> I just got a old Rainbo bread truck. It looks like a 48-52 in the front. It
> has a straight six, three speed and the old style split rearend. The only
> tag I could find says Vanette body and then some serials numbers but they
> are not very legible. Anybody have any info on these or know where I can
> get some. I have a picture I can e-mail if anybody thinks they can help.
> Thanks, Brian
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:36:00 -0500
> From: "Miguel....."
> Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
>
> 16 gallons
>
> - -----Mensaje original-----
> De: DEADOAK aol.com
> Para: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Fecha: jueves 18 de noviembre de 1999 21:23
> Asunto: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
>
> >Does anyone know the gas tank capacity for a 52 pickup? Also, there are
> two
> >unidentified holes in the dash just right of center. I have no idea what
> >they are for.
> >
> >thanks
> >Charles
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> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:54:33 -0800
> From: "Kreig McBride"
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Bread truck
>
> Sure. Send a picture my way. I would like to take a look.
>
> kreig
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Blevins
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 9:30 PM
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bread truck
>
> >I just got a old Rainbo bread truck. It looks like a 48-52 in the front.
> It
> >has a straight six, three speed and the old style split rearend. The only
> >tag I could find says Vanette body and then some serials numbers but they
> >are not very legible. Anybody have any info on these or know where I can
> >get some. I have a picture I can e-mail if anybody thinks they can help.
> >Thanks, Brian
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:35:06 EST
From: DEADOAK aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1

That's what I thought but I just put 20 gals in at a local station. Must be
some hanky panky going on at the pump.

Thanks,

Charles
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:38:07 EST
From: DEADOAK aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Two Little Holes in Dash

David,

Thanks for the information. Where the holes different sizes. One hole is at
least two times the diameter of the other?? I had to let all my wives go and
keep the trucks.

Charles
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:58:28 -0500
From: "Tom Grover"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1

I put over 20 gal in mine also. I don't think that the pump is off at all.
Tom
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> That's what I thought but I just put 20 gals in at a local station. Must
be
> some hanky panky going on at the pump.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charles
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:41:02 EST
From: PBRUHN aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank - '52 F1

My '52 F1 gas tank holds 20 gallons. Bruno
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:18:18 -0700
From: "Janet Herron"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Speedo cables

Gemini,
I don't know where you are located but here in Salt Lake City, Utah I had =
a place called Triple A Speedometer build me a speedo cable for my '48 F6 =
fire truck. Brian is the owner and his number is (801) 262-4404. Hope this =
helps.
Janet
Blazin'48


Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:43:10 -0500
From: "Gemini"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '54 Ford...

I have a few questions. Did the '54 Ford F-100 come with a horn?? What's
the original rearend ratio? And does anyone know of a company that makes
custom speedo cables??
All help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.


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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:56:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:'54 Ford

Try Mid-fifties, they have stock speedometer cables as
well as for C4, C6, FMX, late model manual
transmission. They also have them for ch**y
slushpumps.
If you need something else, call them they will try to
help. The ph# is 800-252-1956.

> Subject: FTE Pre61 - '54 Ford...
> And does anyone know of
> a company that makes
> custom speedo cables??

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:53:28 -0500
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering

Earl,

I used it on mine. It's pricey, but does a good job. My truck handles well.
I had to buy the hoses from Mid-fifties, couldn't find the parts in
Michigan so ended up getting it all from the catalog guys. About $700. it
comes close to the low end IFS kits. Installs easily and it does work.

Fred

Earl Capps wrote:

> I want to add power steering to a 55 F250.
> I found a kit from Bob's F100 that uses a '80's Toyota gear box
> and one from Sacramento Vintage that uses a GM gear box.
> Has anyone used these? Comments?
> Are they any other options out there for the original front end?
>
> earl
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:49:32 -0500
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1

Yeah, my mistake, The stock tank holds 20 Gallons.


- -----Mensaje original-----
De: Tom Grover
Para: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Fecha: viernes 19 de noviembre de 1999 8:06
Asunto: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1


>I put over 20 gal in mine also. I don't think that the pump is off at all.
>Tom
>----- Original Message -----
>From:
>To:
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 7:35 AM
>Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 M1
>
>
>> That's what I thought but I just put 20 gals in at a local station. Must
>be
>> some hanky panky going on at the pump.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Charles
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:46:25 EST
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - FE intake

FTEers,

In my quest to find used (read: cheap) parts, I have been cruising Ebay for
some time. How many others have found good stuff there?

Anyway, someone is selling a 3 deuce intake manifold for FE engines if anyone
is interested. To keep from seeing everything, use the search feature.

Glenn in TN
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:04:05 -0800
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering

>I want to add power steering to a 55 F250.
>I found a kit from Bob's F100 that uses a '80's Toyota gear box
>and one from Sacramento Vintage that uses a GM gear box.
>Has anyone used these? Comments?

The Toyota one looks pretty good. It mounts the Toyota steering box in the
same position as the original one. It's a bit larger than stock though, so
exhaust clearance may become an issue. However it uses the stock drag link
and pitman arm (depending on who you talk to) so it's less invasive than
the GM option. The GM box is a hell of a lot larger than either stock or
the Toyota part so exhaust clearance is a bigger consideration. Also it
eliminates the drag link and switches you to a cross steer system--more
chances for interference. I suspect it would also put more strain on the
frame which can't be too good. I tried this setup on my truck and had to
take it out due to numerous clearance problems. That was my punishment for
putting a GM part on my truck I guess.

>Are they any other options out there for the original front end?

I'm not sure about your year and model, but for the half tons there is a
power assist kit that uses the stock steering box and bolts to the straight
axle. It's what I ended up using and it works great. It's in the
Sacramento Vintage catalog, I think on the same page with the GM conversion
kit.

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Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: New store items

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:07:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed Ellston
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering

Hello FTE's:

I'm looking for a original radio and antenea for a 49
Ford F-1 pickup. Your help will be appreciated.

Ed and his effie (or soon to be effie I should say)

- --- Dan Wentz wrote:
>
> >I want to add power steering to a 55 F250.
> >I found a kit from Bob's F100 that uses a '80's
> Toyota gear box
> >and one from Sacramento Vintage that uses a GM gear
> box.
> >Has anyone used these? Comments?
>
> The Toyota one looks pretty good. It mounts the
> Toyota steering box in the
> same position as the original one. It's a bit
> larger than stock though, so
> exhaust clearance may become an issue. However it
> uses the stock drag link
> and pitman arm (depending on who you talk to) so
> it's less invasive than
> the GM option. The GM box is a hell of a lot larger
> than either stock or
> the Toyota part so exhaust clearance is a bigger
> consideration. Also it
> eliminates the drag link and switches you to a cross
> steer system--more
> chances for interference. I suspect it would also
> put more strain on the
> frame which can't be too good. I tried this setup
> on my truck and had to
> take it out due to numerous clearance problems.
> That was my punishment for
> putting a GM part on my truck I guess.
>
> >Are they any other options out there for the
> original front end?
>
> I'm not sure about your year and model, but for the
> half tons there is a
> power assist kit that uses the stock steering box
> and bolts to the straight
> axle. It's what I ended up using and it works
> great. It's in the....


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