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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - transport
FTE Pre61 - new to list
FTE Pre61 - Re: Standard Gears & Tire Size
FTE Pre61 - RE: REPLY TO Clive
FTE Pre61 - Re:transport
Re: FTE Pre61 - new to list
Re: FTE Pre61 - '52 F1 Clip
FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck
Re: FTE Pre61 - Standard Gears
Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck
FTE Pre61 - Not a problem.
Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck
FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61:Lowering
Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck
Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck
Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck
Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:transport

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:15:25 -0500
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - transport

I had a '55 F100 delived from Hollywood, Fl to my home in NC. I had it
professionally delivered and cost me roughly $550. I didn't think that was to
bad considering if I had done it myself. I would have spent half of that in
hotels and the other half in gas and that wouldn't have included the frustration
factor of trying to load that non-running truck with four flat tires on my dove
tail trialer. To me...it was money well spent.

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Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - transport




I went to North Carolina, from the Florida panhandle, w/ a friend in his
truck to make a pick upof a pick up
We bought a '67 Chevy that I hooked a rented one way dolly to & hauled back
a '50 F-1.
We rented another dolly for behind his truck( 4 cyl Toyota, 5speed) & pulled
back a '58 Chevy pickup.
A rear wheel came off the '58.
That was the only real trouble, but a 2 day trip turned into 4 days.
Cost was around $800. The experience was priceless.
Next time I went to far North Georgia w/ a trailer & brought back a '52 F-1.
Cost about &220 for 2 people.
The next weekend I went back to Augusta, Ga & picked up a '49 F-1 & a spare
8BA engine.
I went up by myself, loaded up & started the return trip at 11:30 pm.
I drove straight thru, so no motel cost this time. Total cost less than
$100.
AND the experience was priceless.
I almost forgot, my wife & I went to Birmingham, Al. with a trailer behind
the just finished '67 Chevy.
Repainted, new tires & wheels, totally redone.
Loaded up a '51 F-1 in downpour & made it to Montgomery, Al.
Got hit slam in the middle of the right front wheel. No collision ins. Total
cost -----$$$$$$$$ MUCHO!!!
Experience sucked.
Had to use AAA tow home. That cost $300 and took about forever.
I could have skipped that one.
Bill









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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:58:51 -0600
From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - new to list

Welcome, it's always a pleasure to hear people buying these "working" trucks -
57-60. I too own a '58, it hasn't seen the road in 15 yrs, but hopefully by
next summer.

My guess as to your "control" problems is that you may not be used to a vehicle
with this type of suspension. Looks like you've got mostly newer ('80+)
vehicles. The front end will react differently than your usual IFS. You may
want to put new(er) springs up front (& rear), that may help clear up the hop.

Brian Nyman
bnyman allina.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:12:17 EST
From: HDMel95 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Standard Gears & Tire Size

I wouldn't suggest going too wide with a 7" rim. Try to find at least 8"
wide rims if you are going over a 235 /60x 15. I run a 3:50 to 1 rear end
with a C6 Tranny. My rear tires are 275/60 x 15's and fronts are 235/60 x
15's. This gives me good all around town driving and pretty fair freeway.
No problem cruising at 75/80 mph. (that's on the freeway, it's tough cruising
at 80 around town) Just remember that the number 75, 60, 50, and 40 on the
tire size is basically the % measurement of the width of the tire. IE: If
you measure a 275 x 50 tire the width is 275. The measurement from the rim
to the road would be 137.5 or 50% of 275. So if you put a 275x 80 tire on
your truck the width would still be 275 but the measurement from the rim to
the road would be 220. Much taller tire and noticeable difference in acting
like a taller gear ratio on the freeway. Hope that helps.
Mel
53 f100
34 Roadster
34 5w
70 El Camino
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:30:50 -0800
From: GUYETTE Phillip
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: REPLY TO Clive

[GUYETTE Phillip] Clive, I've got 3.9:1 rear gears in my Flathead
powered '52 F1, and am very happy with them. The majority of my driving is
in town, and I can run in second gear from abut 10 mph - 35 mph. I cruise
on the freeway at 60 - 65 mph in high without any problem. I think if you
go much higher than 3.5:1 you'll lack low-end torque, resulting in slipping
the clutch to start and poor performance. If you're looking for better fuel
economy, I'd look into an overdrive transmission before I changed the
rear-end ratio. Phillip

> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:52:33 +1300
> From: Clive Pedersen - CSERVNZ
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Standard Gears
>
> With a lot of subscribers having changed to a 9" diff, I was wondering if
> there are any people out there who ARE HAPPY driving with the standard
> 3.9
> diff ratio.
>
> If there is , what size radial tires are they using as I am going to stick
> with the standard diff. The last owner put 15" rims on with 60 series
> tires
> which makes the motor rev. Luckily I've found some bronco rims that are
> the
> right stud pattern and are 7" wide so I can put some wider tires on.
>
> I look forward to hearing from the stock diff guys.
>
>
> Clive Pedersen
> Auckland, New Zealand
> 55 F100 Panel ( 1 of 2 US panels in NZ I think)
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:34:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:transport

Bill,

Drive to Corpus with a tow vehicle(about two days with
two drivers) the third day pick up a U-haul one way
Car Hauler trailer, and load up your vehicle. In two
more days you can be back in Jersey. Total mileage
will be about 4K mi. If your tow vehicle averages 12
MPG and gas is $1.25/ gal, you will spend $417.00 on
gas. Four nights in a Motel 6 is about $200.00. If you
pack sandwiches and bring a case of beverages and eat
frugally two could get by on $40.00/day. That is
another $200.00 for five days, but you have to eat
anyway, so just add another $100.00 for food. A three
day rental of the trailer and tolls(most in Jersey)
add anpother $100.00. Total cost is five days lost for
two, two very tired people, wear and tear on the tow
vehicle, and $617.00.
If you have a little more time and money, it would be
a fun trip.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V

> Hello to all,
>
> I am looking to purchase a 51 pu from Corpus
> Christi, Texas. I am in New
> Jersey and have been given quotes from 885 to over
> 1000 dollars to move
> it. Any of you guys know a better and cheaper way to
> make the move??
> Thanks
> BIll


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:53:00 EST
From: ChargerGLHS142 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - new to list

I have a ton of truck catalogs and saw a power steering unit i can mount on
my truck, i considered doing this to maybe clear up the weave, and make it
easier to steer. Now i just need a motor to pull a horse trailor.

Brian Achey &A nn Bates

1987 SHelby Charger GLHS #142
1996 Mustang GT convertible
1958 Ford F100 "Gus"
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:58:22 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '52 F1 Clip

Your original axle, tires, and wheels would look best.
Sorry, just couldn't help myself. :-)

Kreig in Bellingham
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From: GUYETTE Phillip
To: pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 8:33 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '52 F1 Clip


>I'm about ready to replace the stock front axle on my '52 F1 and am leaning
>toward a Volare' clip. Can anyone give me the exact width (as compared to
>the stock axle)? I'm concerned about how the wheels/tires will look in the
>fenderwells.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:04:47 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck

Well I "found" a 1938 Ford 1 1/2 ton flatbed truck for $700.

Haven't seen it yet. My problem is how to pay for it and sneak it home AND
store it with out the spouse knowing anything about it.

How do you guys accomplish such a task?

Kreig in Bellingham

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:16:15 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Standard Gears

My truck has stock gears, tranny, rear end. 4 on the floor and it is slow by
todays standards. If I need to drive 60+ mph safely, I drive my 1991 Ford
Van. I enjoy driving my truck as-is, slow and savoring ever mile of it.
I also own a 130mph sports car. I would rather drive my old slow truck.

Kreig in Bellingham

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From: Clive Pedersen - CSERVNZ
To: 'pre61-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:12 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Standard Gears


>With a lot of subscribers having changed to a 9" diff, I was wondering if
>there are any people out there who ARE HAPPY driving with the standard 3.9
>diff ratio.
>
>If there is , what size radial tires are they using as I am going to stick
>with the standard diff. The last owner put 15" rims on with 60 series tires
>which makes the motor rev. Luckily I've found some bronco rims that are the
>right stud pattern and are 7" wide so I can put some wider tires on.
>
>I look forward to hearing from the stock diff guys.
>
>
>Clive Pedersen
>Auckland, New Zealand
>55 F100 Panel ( 1 of 2 US panels in NZ I think)
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:23:30 -0500
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck

Well....I have a buddy who owns a wrecking yard. I pay him a monthly fee for
storage. I paid for the transporter with a money order but reserved the truck
via Credit Card. You must have cash, otherwise SWMBO will get suspicious. I had
the truck delivered directly to my buddy's place.

Only problem I have now is she wants to know where I'm getting these parts and
wants to know how much they cost. I know eventually she'll figure it out.....

- -Ted



Well I "found" a 1938 Ford 1 1/2 ton flatbed truck for $700.

Haven't seen it yet. My problem is how to pay for it and sneak it home AND
store it with out the spouse knowing anything about it.

How do you guys accomplish such a task?

Kreig in Bellingham

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:14:02 -0500
From: "Steve Schnitz"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Not a problem.

I am one of the lucky guys. My wife is just as excited about my truck as I
am. She is even excited about going to Piegion Forge next year for the Super
F-1 Nationals. So I can't help you out. Good luck.teve

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:18:11 EST
From: DEADOAK aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck

Divorce
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:14:36 EST
From: OBKBEE aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61:Lowering

I installed reversed eye rear leaf springs to lower my 55 panel. It lowered
it 2". It has a 75' Cordova IFS. I need to bring it down 4 or 5 more for
installing a fold down wheelchair ramp. Staying away from a lift for weight
concerns because installation would require too extensive a modification. I
want to reposition the front frame mount of the leaf (removed rivets/replaced
with grade 8 bolts & self locking nuts last year rebuilding the rear end) up
to the top of the frame or flip that mount itself. I shy'd away from
repositioning the axel on top of the leaf pack, notching and gusseting the
frame. I had to accept the fact after a "few" life threats (truck rolling on
head, rotary tool cuts, torch burnings etc, new day new injury. I got it to
daily driving status Enoughhhh is enough
my MS (Multiple Sclerosis a.k.a. MURPHY'S SYNDROME.:) had evolved enough
I just had give the truck to someone to finnish. I have to thank everyone for
the help from this list over the last 2 years. Thanks-Kent
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:46:39 -0500
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck

Kreig, when you gonna stop sending those D--- posts with
big fonts and add-ons? You don't know how to run your PC, or
have vision problem?
"G"

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:18:57 -0500
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck

Bellingham MA? We are next door if you are.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kreig McBride
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:19 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck


>Well I "found" a 1938 Ford 1 1/2 ton flatbed truck for $700.
>
>Haven't seen it yet. My problem is how to pay for it and sneak it home AND
>store it with out the spouse knowing anything about it.
>
>How do you guys accomplish such a task?
>
>Kreig in Bellingham
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:16:23 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck

Sorry. I didn't know I had big fonts.
Don't know where the ad ons are coming from. What are they? What do they
look like?
Yes my vision is poor and, no I don't know anything about my PC.
Personal attacks are always welcome. :-)

Kreig in Bellingham

PS I recieve about 200+ emails a day and respond to about 40 each day.
This is the first complaint in years. Guess I better go and jump in front of
a truck and get it all over with.
Oh, and vision problems? You outta see me drive . . . . . .

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From: Gary L. Perry
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck


>Kreig, when you gonna stop sending those D--- posts with
>big fonts and add-ons? You don't know how to run your PC, or
>have vision problem?
> "G"
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:00:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed Ellston
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 38 ford truck

When I told my wife that I was taking over her spot in
the garage so that I could park the old truck in there
she said, "I hope you like sleeping in the back of
that old truck!!!". I'm building a new addition to
the garage now.

- --- DEADOAK aol.com wrote:
> Divorce
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:05:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed Ellston
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:transport

Try Kiwi Carriers at 1-800-762-7973. Very safe and
reliable I'm told by one of my friend's in Texas.
Good luck with your truck.

Ed 55 effie

- --- Dan Lee wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Drive to Corpus with a tow vehicle(about two days
> with
> two drivers) the third day pick up a U-haul one way
> Car Hauler trailer, and load up your vehicle. In two
> more days you can be back in Jersey. Total mileage
> will be about 4K mi. If your tow vehicle averages 12
> MPG and gas is $1.25/ gal, you will spend $417.00 on
> gas. Four nights in a Motel 6 is about $200.00. If
> you
> pack sandwiches and bring a case of beverages and
> eat
> frugally two could get by on $40.00/day. That is
> another $200.00 for five days, but you have to eat
> anyway, so just add another $100.00 for food. A
> three
> day rental of the trailer and tolls(most in Jersey)
> add anpother $100.00. Total cost is five days lost
> for
> two, two very tired people, wear and tear on the tow
> vehicle, and $617.00.
> If you have a little more time and money, it would
> be
> a fun trip.
>
> Dan Lee
> '53 F100
> 400C-4V
>
> > Hello to all,
> >
....

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