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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Little Things
RE: FTE Pre61 - Mustang II IFS
RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance
RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance
FTE Pre61 - Re: Mustang II IFS
FTE Pre61 - insurance
FTE Pre61 - Spring Pins and Bushings
Re: FTE Pre61 - Spring Pins and Bushings
Re: FTE Pre61 - insurance
Re: FTE Pre61 - Mustang II IFS
RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance
FTE Pre61 - Project Status
Re: FTE Pre61 - Spring Pins and Bushings
FTE Pre61 - 1950 F-1 gas consumption
FTE Pre61 - Re: fuel capacity
Re: FTE Pre61 - insurance
RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance

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Date: 03 Nov 1999 08:13:16 -0600
From: Randy K Selby
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Little Things

Can anyone help with the following?

1) Supplier for '50 ignition switch (catalogs all have '52 and later)

2) Supplier for '50 dash light switch (flanged toggle switch)

3) Horn relay location for '50 (firewall, fender inner panel......)

4) Picked up a set of stock exhaust manifolds, but the dipstick clearance is
wrong. Is there a difference between truck and car manifolds? My dipstick is
just barely in front of the center exhaust port on driver's side.

5) Can Ford dealerships find any of these parts from old stock?


Randy Selby
selbyrk npoint.net
selby_randy_k cat.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:00:32 -0800
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Mustang II IFS

Earl,

I,m running a clip on mine, but I believe most of the aftermarket IFS is
based on Mustang II. I know they make a lot of after market parts for them
so getting the proper spring rates shouldn't be a problem. As for the
strength of the stock upper and lower control arms I don't know, especially
if your going with something like a 460. I read somewhere that the 460 is
175lbs? heavier than a 390. Fat Man Fabrications and Heidt's both base
their IFS kits on Mustang II components. November classic trucks has a
Heidt's installation on a F1.

Dennis
55F100
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>
> Has anyone tried this?
> Is it acceptable?
> Would it work with a Big Block?
>
> earl
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:04:18 -0800
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance

Have you tried Allstate. They insure my 55 F100 and treat it just like my
other cars. All I had to do was get it appraised. It's all hot rodded and
I've had no problems. Used the insurance twice without a whimper from
Allstate. I do have a great agent that really helps.

Dennis
55F100

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>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for insurance coverage? I used St.
> Pauls on a 62 Vette but they won't cover my 52 Mercury pickup because it
> has
> some custom features not original to the truck.
>
> Thanks,
> Charles Williams
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 08:25:58 -0700
From: "Kitchen, Ken"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance

I insured my 55 F100 through my State Farm Agent. All my agent did was a
quick visual inspection and took my word on the value of the vehicle. Cheap
to only about $75 buck for six months. Told me to keep any receipts to show
any improvements. As proof in case of a future claim.

Ken
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> From: O'Connell, Dennis M[SMTP:DMO1 pge.com]
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>
> Have you tried Allstate. They insure my 55 F100 and treat it just like my
> other cars. All I had to do was get it appraised. It's all hot rodded
> and
> I've had no problems. Used the insurance twice without a whimper from
> Allstate. I do have a great agent that really helps.
>
> Dennis
> 55F100
>
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> > Subject: FTE Pre61 - insurance
> >
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for insurance coverage? I used St.
>
> > Pauls on a 62 Vette but they won't cover my 52 Mercury pickup because it
> > has
> > some custom features not original to the truck.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Charles Williams
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:05:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Mustang II IFS

earl,

I have a TCI coil-over shock version of the MII. I
have a 400 engine(not a Big Block) and it is fine. I
think you need heavy springs to use a MII with a big
block. One note of caution is your front bumper will
sit very low. I had to have a custom install on mine
to allow for wheel/fender clearance and to allow the
front bumper to go over speed bumps.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V

> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Mustang II IFS
>
>
> > Has anyone tried this?
> > Is it acceptable?
> > Would it work with a Big Block?
> >
> > earl


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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 12:09:36 -0500
From: Abe Stauffer
Subject: FTE Pre61 - insurance

Charles and others,
I recommend State Farm. They have a "Classic Insurance". You do not
have to have Classic Tags or antique tags on your car or truck. It can
be a daily driver, custom or stock. You tell them what it is worth,
they take pictures of the vehicle to verify the condition. and it is
cheap! I am paying just a little more than I was when my truck was a
rust bucket (and that was for liability only!!).
Abe Stauffer: "back on line"
'54 F-100: "back together and looking good"
(pictures will be posted when I have time)
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:11:50 -0500
From: "Sheldon Rier"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Spring Pins and Bushings

Hi Marty

kits are readily available for half tons and have also bought parts from
local spring shop for 600 class trucks so there should be parts avail for
350 series

last one I did used some oil-lite bushings & ground shoulder bolts that we
had work - takes a little dicking with but is really precision & should be
more durable than stock - can get the parts at any bearing, bolt or
industrial supply

Good Luck
Sheldon


Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 20:21:42 -0500
From: Marty Gatz
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Spring Pins and Bushings

Anyone know of a source for spring pins and bushings for a 56 F350 . I have
sand blasted the frame and want to replace the pins and bushings before I
paint the frame.

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:29:36 -0500
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Spring Pins and Bushings

Marty, I live in NE Indiana, and know of a spring shop in
Ft. Wayne, IN that has or can get suspension parts for any
old Chev or Ford I've worked on (usually big trucks). Don't
you have a spring shop in your area? The older the better.
Maybe a Big truck repair shop. These parts are common
between years.Napa is also a good source for older vehicles.
Most mail-order places don't deal with parts for over 3/4 ton,
I have found, unless they are used on both.If you want I can
e-mail my source in Ft. Wayne, but sure seems like must
be someone closer to you. "G"

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:36:08 -0800
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - insurance

I also insure with State Farm. They will NOT insure my 1952 F-2 under the
classic category because it is not all fixed up/restored. It is original but
they maintain that it has to be restored to be considered a classic. So
much for original vehicles.
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From: Abe Stauffer
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:14 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - insurance


>Charles and others,
> I recommend State Farm. They have a "Classic Insurance". You do not
>have to have Classic Tags or antique tags on your car or truck. It can
>be a daily driver, custom or stock. You tell them what it is worth,
>they take pictures of the vehicle to verify the condition. and it is
>cheap! I am paying just a little more than I was when my truck was a
>rust bucket (and that was for liability only!!).
> Abe Stauffer: "back on line"
> '54 F-100: "back together and looking good"
> (pictures will be posted when I have time)
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 12:00:31 -0800
From: Kevin Coughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Mustang II IFS

Earl,

I have the Mustang II IFS in my 54, it works good, it really lowers the
front of the truck though. I imagine you could get big block springs for
the suspension and it would work good........................good luck!!

Earl Capps wrote:

> Has anyone tried this?
> Is it acceptable?
> Would it work with a Big Block?
>
> earl
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:37:13 -0700
From: "Kitchen, Ken"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance

Probably agent dependent because mine didn't ask any questions about mods.
She just came out took a couple of photos ask what I thought it was worth
and sold me the policy.

Ken

> ----------
> From: Kreig McBride[SMTP:kmcbride memes.com]
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:36 AM
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> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - insurance
>
> I also insure with State Farm. They will NOT insure my 1952 F-2 under the
> classic category because it is not all fixed up/restored. It is original
> but
> they maintain that it has to be restored to be considered a classic. So
> much for original vehicles.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Stauffer
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:14 AM
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - insurance
>
>
> >Charles and others,
> > I recommend State Farm. They have a "Classic Insurance". You do not
> >have to have Classic Tags or antique tags on your car or truck. It can
> >be a daily driver, custom or stock. You tell them what it is worth,
> >they take pictures of the vehicle to verify the condition. and it is
> >cheap! I am paying just a little more than I was when my truck was a
> >rust bucket (and that was for liability only!!).
> > Abe Stauffer: "back on line"
> > '54 F-100: "back together and looking good"
> > (pictures will be posted when I have time)
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:15:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Project Status

Here is the status of my project. This is in addition
to TCI IFS and Power Rack and Pinion Steering, Tilt
Steering column, VDO guages, Lokar shifter, AM/FM/CD
player. Air Conditioning is on the way.


400 engine bored +.030 and Balanced.

Ohio Pin&Piston Flattop Pistons

Crank .010/.010

Melling High Volume Oil Pump

Bronco Rear Sump Oil Pan & Pickup.

Cloyes true roller Timing Chain

Fluidamper Vibration Damper

Crane 278/290 Cam, Lifters and Springs

Crane Roller Rockers and Guide Plates

Crane Hardened Pushrods

351C-4V heads with Manley Valves and Hardened seats

Fel-Pro Performance Head Gaskets

Edelbrock Performer Intake for 351C-4V w/ Weiand
adapters.

Carter 750 CFM Carb.

Sanderson Headers

Weiand Aluminum Water Pump

Carter Electric Fuel Pump

Mallory Unilite Distributor

Holley HP Annhiliator Ignition Control

8mm silicone Wires, Autolite Plugs

Bebuilt C6 w/ shift kit

9 Ford Rear 3.0:1 ratio

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V



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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 15:32:27 -0500
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Spring Pins and Bushings

Marty,

Detroit Eaton Springs advertises in the Truck magazines that they'll make
springs for what ever it is you have...

Fred
hotrod'56

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:41:06 -0700
From: "Fenwick, Steve (BI35)"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 1950 F-1 gas consumption

Hello everyone, this is my first posting. I bought a 1950 F-1 (I think) in
August of this year.

What gas consumption should I be getting from my 239 V-8 flathead in m.p.g.?

Also, my truck is Canadian and seems to have some 1950 and some 1951
features: 1951 dash and hood, 1950 grill. I recall someone saying that
there is a late 1950 model. I wonder if that is what I have. Anyone got
any more info about this?

Steve Fenwick
1950? F-1
1963 Falcon Sprint

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:53:12 EST
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: fuel capacity

Good point about the running board brackets. That was something that I never
thought about. I knew that my F-600 had a 20 gallon tank, but never
considered the fact that the running boards were much lower on that truck
then my pick up. Also I had noticed in the manual that F-500 and up had this
bigger tank.

Michelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:23:16 -0500
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - insurance

Let me share a tale of misfortune with the hope that I can offset
some future problem for someone else. I had an Olds Convert that
had been in storage since my father-in-law passed away about 13
years ago. I bought "classic" coverage with "stated value" and
proceeded to drive the vehicle to Massachusetts from Wisconsin.

It burned along the side of the highway about 125 miles from home.

The insurance company first offered $825.00!

You must have "agreed valuation", not "stated". I am now covered
on my Effie and my better half's Dart GT Rag top with Grundy World
Wide.

Once BURNED is enough.

Howard
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From: Abe Stauffer
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 12:18 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - insurance


>Charles and others,
> I recommend State Farm. They have a "Classic Insurance". You do not
>have to have Classic Tags or antique tags on your car or truck. It can
>be a daily driver, custom or stock. You tell them what it is worth,
>they take pictures of the vehicle to verify the condition. and it is
>cheap! I am paying just a little more than I was when my truck was a
>rust bucket (and that was for liability only!!).
> Abe Stauffer: "back on line"
> '54 F-100: "back together and looking good"
> (pictures will be posted when I have time)
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:52:26 -0700
From: "Kitchen, Ken"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - insurance

Thanks,

I need to check with my insurance agent and see exactly what kind of
coverage I have.

Ken Kitchen
55 F100
> ----------
> From: Howard H. Tarnoff[SMTP:htarnoff qnci.net]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 2:23 PM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - insurance
>
> Let me share a tale of misfortune with the hope that I can offset
> some future problem for someone else. I had an Olds Convert that
> had been in storage since my father-in-law passed away about 13
> years ago. I bought "classic" coverage with "stated value" and
> proceeded to drive the vehicle to Massachusetts from Wisconsin.
>
> It burned along the side of the highway about 125 miles from home.
>
> The insurance company first offered $825.00!
>
> You must have "agreed valuation", not "stated". I am now covered
> on my Effie and my better half's Dart GT Rag top with Grundy World
> Wide.
>
> Once BURNED is enough.
>
> Howard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Stauffer
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 12:18 PM
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - insurance
>
>
> >Charles and others,
> > I recommend State Farm. They have a "Classic Insurance". You do not....


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