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pre61-list-digest Wednesday, October 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 311



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: painting apart or together
FTE Pre61 - Re: New to old Fords & F4 Wheels
[none]
FTE Pre61 - Aftermarket truck body
RE: FTE Pre61 - Aftermarket truck body
FTE Pre61 - Re:Cause of a Dead Distributor Cap?
FTE Pre61 - looking for 6 banger pics

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:21:25 -0400
From: hwillms ca.ibm.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: painting apart or together

I had my F1 painted in pieces and then assembled using new fender welting,
window rubber mouldings etc. I think you get a much better job from a
coverage perspective and is really the only way if you want to paint behind
the cab, front of the box, under the hood, door jambs, etc. The downside
is you have to be real careful to transport, store and reassemble without
scrathching.

Paint shops who paint motorcycles have various racks and tables to put all
the parts on to get them painted all around.

Henry Willms



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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:29:20 -0400
From: Francis Marchand
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: New to old Fords & F4 Wheels

At 08:04 AM 10/15/99, I wrote about old Fords:
>
>I just bought a '52 Ford F4 Dump with power angle plow. The truck is in
>fair condition (bodywise). This is OK because I'm going to use it as a
>farm work truck for the next several years before doing it over.

{stuff deleted}
>
>Questions:
>
>Where is/was the Somerville plant located? When were the 14000 series S/Ns
>made in 1952 (early, middle, late)? The Title list the truck as a "1 1/2
>ton" is this what the F4 is? The truck is still 6 volts, is it negative or
>positive ground?
>

>At 07:22 AM 10/21/99, I wrote about F4 wheels

>
>My '52 F4 is fitted with 18 inch wheels (7.00-18 tires). Are these wheels
>the "split rim" type, which I've heard are dangerous to do tire changes on?
> Also what is the lug bolt spacing (diameter?) for the F4? They are 5 lug
>type wheels. Is there a more modern replacement wheel available from
>another vehicle, which will bolt right on (16, 16.5, 19.5, 20 inch, etc.)
>and have about the same or slightly larger tire diameter?
>

Thanks everyone for the great replies to my questions! I only get to visit
my new F4 on weekends, it's about 120 miles from where I live.

This past weekend I got to do quite a bit with it. Put on a new muffler
(it sounds much better!), reversed the positive and ground wires at the
battery (starts easier and runs smoother), polarized the generator (the amp
meter now indicates charge and discharge correctly), got most of the lights
working (either the high or low beam shuts off when the foot switch is
pressed? and one of the snow plow lights is out), got the heater blower to
work, windshield wipers still not working, dumped the snow plow out of the
dump bed and attached it to the plow frame...also switched the fan-to-crank
belt to a fan-to-crank-to-plow pump belt...plow goes up and down and angles
side to side, and finally took some measurements of the wheels, here's what
I found:

7.00-18 tires, about 33 - 34 inches in diameter

five 3/4" diameter studs on an 8" bolt circle (bolt-to-bolt centerline is 4
23/32")

wheel hub diameter is 5.875" (5 7/8") [Wheel is "stud piloted".]

back spacing is 7.562" (7 9/16")

front spacing is 1.50" (1 1/2")

Lug nuts are right hand on passenger's side and left hand on driver's side

Now to find some "new" wheels and tires. Alcoa (www.alcoawheels.com) lists
a 19.5 X 6 wheel with 5 lug holes on 8 inch diameter for a "GM" application
(Alcoa P/N is 763220). The hub diameter is 6.03", they don't state the lug
bolt diameter, however. Now to find that elusive "GM" application for the
cheaper steel wheels! There are many varieties of 19.5" tires out there
with a 33 - 34" diameter. Fords new F450 & F550 both use 19.5, as well as
many GM (Chevy) HD 3500 pickups, Class A motor homes and Grumman style step
vans.

Hope this wheel info helps. The 19.5's could also be used on F5 & F6
trucks, they have the load capacity.

Fran Marchand
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:05:52 -0500
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: [none]

>Hi Gang.
>I am planning on how I will paint my truck. I am doing a complete gound up
>resto on my '52 F-3. The entire body and cab is completely taken apart. All
>my sheet metal is primed and ready for paint. Can one of you tell me how I
>should paint all this stuff before I assemble the body, or should I bolt it
>all up and then paint?

>Thanks,
>Paul
Paul, I did the same on mine,
http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1950_f1_3.html
and there is no perfect way to do it. No matter how hard I try, there is
going to be another paint job once when I get it all back together. Parts
don't fit perfect, the next mix of paint isn't exactly right, and all the
net nuts and bolts will need to get painted or they will start surface
rusting. I have called it my sealant coat. It will take you three times
longer doing it one piece at a time, but I like the fact that there ate no
hidden damage or rust between the sheet metal, and when someone looks under
the fender, it won't look like a 50 year old truck.
Steve

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:15:15 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Aftermarket truck body

Help...I saw the end of a recent TV car show where the fellow showed a
modified Ranger, I believe (might have been an S10?) with new body skins
glued on, among other things, to make the truck look totally different
but really nice.
The fellow is the skinny guy with the odd, pointed mustache.
The company was in Phoenix, Arizona.
Since all I saw was the end of the show, that's all I know!

Thanks, Paul Gayda
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:00:57 -0600
From: "Kitchen, Ken"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Aftermarket truck body

Paul,

There is a company that puts out a product called the Rodster that look kind
of like a 40 Ford convertible that is used to modify an s10 blazer. There
are also a couple of companies that put out 35/36 ford P/U bodies that are
made for the long wheelbase ranger.

You might try a search on the Rodster name and find something. The 35/36 p/u
bodies were discussed on the list recently. someone might have that info
available.

Ken Kitchen
55 Ford F100

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> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Aftermarket truck body
>
> Help...I saw the end of a recent TV car show where the fellow showed a
> modified Ranger, I believe (might have been an S10?) with new body skins
> glued on, among other things, to make the truck look totally different
> but really nice.
> The fellow is the skinny guy with the odd, pointed mustache.
> The company was in Phoenix, Arizona.
> Since all I saw was the end of the show, that's all I know!
>
> Thanks, Paul Gayda
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:41:02 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:Cause of a Dead Distributor Cap?

>I have the same setup in my 400 w/Cleveland Heads, a
>Mallory Unilite Dist. and Promaster Coil. I have not
>experienced any problems, but tracking is caused by
>High Voltage breakdown of an insulator. A spark will
>jump across the easiest path. If the path across the
>plug gap is excessive due to compression, connections,
>plugs or wires, the spark may find a path across your
>cap. Platinum plugs have a higher resistance and along
>with resistance wire could contribute to the problem.

I follow this, but would it happen immediately? In other words, would the
introduction of platinum plugs and resistance wire cause failure of the
distributor cap 5 seconds after you start the engine?

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Varoooooom!
1992 Mustang --Self adjusting clutch? In 4 years I don't think it's ever
adjusted itself!

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:39:09 +0200
From: "Greg Schnakenberg"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - looking for 6 banger pics

I'm looking to contact Loal Phipps, who has a 56 displayed in the pic
section. what I want is to see what the 223 looks like dressed up, and to
send along any engine pics he may have of it. His address is not listed in
the discription.

ugly exairforce '61 steppie

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