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pre61-list-digest Monday, October 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 309



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end
Re: FTE Pre61 - F4 wheels
Re: FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end
Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 C.O.E. Radiator
FTE Pre61 - Cause of a Dead Distributor Cap?
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Free t-shirt and window sticker
FTE Pre61 - 57 engine color
FTE Pre61 - starting 30 year old engine
RE: FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end
RE: FTE Pre61 - starting 30 year old engine
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE Pre61 - Master cylinder question

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:58:05 -0400
From: "sam fugate"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end

Has any one tried to install a 1976-77 Lincoln rear into their 51-52 F1?
Just curios if it would be a direct bolt on, or if mods would be in order.
Rear disk brakes would be nice!
Thanks,

SAM I AM

1951 F1 in progress

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:55:09 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - F4 wheels

If you're after originality, you can change them in your garage. Let all
the air out and remove the lock rim with a pry bar. Sand everything down
and paint it. When you put it back together, make sure the lock rim is
in place with just enough air to provide light tension. Put 5-10 psi in
and check it again. Use the BFH to make SURE the lock rim is seated
properly. Then turn it so the lock rim is on the ground to fill it with
air. That's the reason truck air guages had the double air nozzle; one
facing away from you and the other at you. Bounce it lock rim down a
couple of times and put it on the truck. The better truck stops used to
have steel cages they placed those tire/rim combos in to inflate them
after repairs/changes.

George Miller



"Gary L. Perry" wrote:
>
> To you guys with F-4 wheels. They are probably the 2-peice type
> split in middle.No tire store will change them ("suicide rims") with
> rust on seal areas (that most have) especially.Best way to have different
> tires is to find junkyard sets and change whole wheel and tire.
> I have F-600 6-lug wheels on my 56 and they are used into 70's.
> Later ones are 22.5 with tubeless tires and will fit in place of older
> 20 inch split wheels w/out being too big. Yes, they are Budd wheels
> with Large holes and nuts. If you try Firestone dealers they have
> catalogues with replacement wheels for older trucks, try to
> get a 8R 19.5 size like HD Chevy's still run or motorhomes.
> They are not oversize, yet easy to buy, tubeless and radial.
> Also, military wheels and tires fit 6-lug style, but don't know
> if they have a 5-lug type. Lot's of military truck sales in
> Nothern IN sell them cheap.
> "G"
>
> 56 C-600
> 54 6400 C***y
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:12:37 -0400
From: "fred g 454"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end

Sam,
As far as I can find out the only direct bolt in is the '57 to early 60's
truck rear ends. Most others you need to remove the old and weld on new
spring perches. Not a big job but not bolt on.

Fred
hotrod'56


>Subject: FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end
> Has any one tried to install a 1976-77 Lincoln rear into their 51-52 F1?
> Just curios if it would be a direct bolt on, or if mods would be in order.
> Rear disk brakes would be nice!
> Thanks,
>
> SAM I AM
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:12:13 -0400
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 C.O.E. Radiator

Dear Mark Ames, where you at? 50 miles to boneyard is quite a trip!
I may need a window regulator for my drivers door. I took one from
a 54 COE and it's different than a 56. Every d#$ thing on a 56
Ford truck is one-off! I broke the window getting it out, which I also
need, but can get cut locally as long as I have hardware for it.
Need a 2-spd. wiper switch, but old one is probably rusted or
shot in yard. Otherwise in good shape. Just need TIME to redo
all I have.Ask how-much for reg. yet don't make any effort to
drive that far or whatever if your not already going.
Thanks for the genourous offer! "G"

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:33:44 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Cause of a Dead Distributor Cap?

I have a Mallory Unilite in my 351C. Yesterday I installed a Mallory
coil--I can't remember the model number but it's compatible with the
Unilite. Before that I'd been using an Accel Super Stock coil--it didn't
fail, I just replaced it basically for the hell of it. After I installed
the coil I ran the engine and everything was cool. Today I installed new
spark plugs (Autolite Platinum, gapped .044) and wires (Summit 8mm). When
I started it up I knew instantly something was wrong--it sounded weak and
it would backfire on acceleration. I checked the order on the distributor
cap and double checked my connections--everything looked good. I looked
inside the distributor cap and found the problem--center terminal is pretty
well detonated--charred black and white and there's white tracking between
all the other terminals. There's also white charry stuff on the middle of
the rotor. So I found my problem, but what caused that to happen? I've
never had a problem like this before. If I had to guess I'd say that the
Unilite wasn't grounded well, which lead to some corrosion. Then the new
coil and larger wires were too much for the weakened distributor to take
and I got a kablooey type condition in the distributor cap. Does this
sound anywhere near reasonable, or should I keep looking? I should mention
that the engine has always run great in the 3 years prior to this.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Varoooooom!
1992 Mustang --Self adjusting clutch? In 4 years I don't think it's ever
adjusted itself!

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:34:06 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Free t-shirt and window sticker

The web site is getting stale so we've decided to give
a free t-shirt and window sticker to anyone who submits
an item we publish on the web site. Anyone who has
submitted anything since the 1st of October will also
get a t-shirt and sticker. Details can be found at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/free.html

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:54:11 EDT
From: Craigar68 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 57 engine color

Can anyone please tell me what the original engine color should be for my 57
272 ? I''ve got blue, yellow, and orange on there right now and I would like
to repaint it to the original. I have checked into the POR 15 product pretty
extensively and I think I will use them unless someone out there has a better
suggestion from experience. Also if anyone knows of any archived articles
detailing this procedure I would appreciate them letting me know. Thanks in
advance guys!
Craig
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:26:50 -0700
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - starting 30 year old engine

The engine in the 1950 Ford F-3 has been sitting for 30 years, under the
protection of the hood.
Today I removed the spark plugs and sprayed a little WD-40 into the
cylinders. Later I followed this up with engine oil. Plan to let it sit for
many days while I check all fluids, wires, etc. My plan is to get the engine
loose, check the compression and then try and get it running, check vacuum
and whatever else to see if the engine runs well enough to install in my
good truck.

My question to members of the list is:
What else should I do before attempting to start the engine?
Should I try?

Thanks,
Kreig in Bellingham, Wa

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:28:33 -0400
From: "Mcat"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end

Sam, I have done the swap that you are talking about. Mine was done on a 56
with a 72 truck rear. It does require some machine work, but it works
great.Garry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of sam fugate
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 9:58 AM
> To: list
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - licoln rear end
>
>
> Has any one tried to install a 1976-77 Lincoln rear into their 51-52 F1?
> Just curios if it would be a direct bolt on, or if mods would be in order.
> Rear disk brakes would be nice!
> Thanks,
>
> SAM I AM
>
> 1951 F1 in progress
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:47:03 -0400
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - starting 30 year old engine

Off course, you should try to start it. Once it works its great!
Other things to check before you start it are:
- - Put good oil in it
- - Make sure engine runs freely (not in gear)
- - Check that every sparg plug wire gets a spark
- - fill the carb with fuel and see that it is injecting fuel
- - Itīs a good idea to connect the gauges, specially the oil gauge, test it
before starting..
- - Make sure you have a kill switch working
- - check that all cylinders have compression, no stuck valves...
- - Check that exaust is free of rats, squirrel nests, etc.
- - Put a good battery with correct cables and turn it with the ignition off.
- - When it starts, record the sound and send it to me, Iīll post it in my
website..
- - Make sure there is no muffler, and enjoy the sound.

Miguel Londono
Ontario


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De: Kreig McBride
Para: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Fecha: domingo 24 de octubre de 1999 21:49
Asunto: FTE Pre61 - starting 30 year old engine


>The engine in the 1950 Ford F-3 has been sitting for 30 years, under the
>protection of the hood.
>Today I removed the spark plugs and sprayed a little WD-40 into the
>cylinders. Later I followed this up with engine oil. Plan to let it sit for
>many days while I check all fluids, wires, etc. My plan is to get the
engine
>loose, check the compression and then try and get it running, check vacuum
>and whatever else to see if the engine runs well enough to install in my
>good truck.
>
>My question to members of the list is:
>What else should I do before attempting to start the engine?
>Should I try?
>
>Thanks,
>Kreig in Bellingham, Wa
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:38:07 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates

Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site updates:

- -Nearly every pictorial section has had at least one truck added
to it.
- -Four articles added to tech articles section.
- -Links section updated.
- -Forum section updated.

Enjoy!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:42:05 -0700
From: Dan Laray
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Master cylinder question

when I got my 56 F100, it already had 84 Crown Vic front and 79
Continental rear disks. The booster and m/c is from the CV, but the....

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