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pre61-list-digest Sunday, October 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 292



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: Sentimental Value/Just like new
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Sentimental Value/Just like new
FTE Pre61 - Gunson's Colortune
FTE Pre61 - Stock or not to stock
FTE Pre61 - Chat
Fw: FTE Pre61 - Chat
Re: FTE Pre61 - Chat
Re: FTE Pre61 - Gunson's Colortune
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Sentimental Value/Just like new
FTE Pre61 - 16" vs 17" rims
Re: FTE Pre61 - Chat
Re: FTE Pre61 - 16" vs 17" rims

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:57:18 EDT
From: HDMel95 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Sentimental Value/Just like new

In a message dated 10/9/1999 3:03:24 AM, you wrote:


Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box

Couldn't have said it better mayself, Kreig. I am in a similar situation
with you. I got my Uncle's '52 F-3 when he passed away in May of '98. The
truck sat behind the barn for 26 years, and I have always wanted this truck
since I was very young. This truck is priceless to me because it belonged to
him. He used it to work in his hay fiesld many years ago. My main goal in
this restoration is to bring it back to the condition when He bought it new.
I guess you could say that the value of my truck is more sentimental value
than how many bucks it could collect if I sold it, which I don't plan on
doing.
My two cents.

Paul

This brings up another point of view. Wow, we do have a lot to say don't we?
If your Unc's truck was really sentimental, you would just get it running
and leave it the way he left it. Dirt and all. Anything you restore or
clean up, you are removing part of him. If you really did anything for
sentiment, you would encapsulate it in his memory. Do you even remember how
it looked when he bought it new? Your memories are all of how he kept it
since he bought it. My Dad passed away 10 years ago and his El Camino sat in
the garage for 5 years. He was by no means a Hot Rodder. He used to think I
was goofy because I have to modify everything I own. Anyway, it came time
for Mom to send the El Camino (Leo) on to a happier restored life and she
gave it to me for that purpose. Didn't do much to it, just new suspension,
slightly lower, 8" Vette Rallyes 50 series 265's, Complete detailing stock
looking interior but got rid of all the naughahyde, a little chrome in the
engine compartment and a great Silver Blue Paint job/new vynal top. Going
down the street it just looks better than stock, even Dad would love it and
Mom smiles admirably every time she sees it. So I guess what I am saying, is
we need to do to our hobbies what "FEELS" good, like I said before. We can't
try to please everyone, only ourselves.

Mel
1953 f100
1934 5w
1934 Roadster
1970 El Camino(Leo)

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:25:33 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Sentimental Value/Just like new

Wow, we do have a lot to say don't we?
If your Unc's truck was really sentimental, you would just get it running
and leave it the way he left it. Dirt and all. Anything you restore or
clean up, you are removing part of him. If you really did anything for
sentiment, you would encapsulate it in his memory. Do you even remember how
it looked when he bought it new?

Mel
First off, yes, we do have a lot to say. You missed the whole point of my
letter. I am bringing this truck back to its original condition when he
bought it new. I don't think dirt and rust would be found on a new vehicle,
would it? I am very much aware of what this truck looked like when he bought
it. That's where old family photo albums come in. I don't think that taking
off the years of rust and dirt on this truck is removing any part of my
Uncle's memory. Besides, I am doing this for my satisfaction, and the way I
want to remember him.

Paul
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:24:52 -0700
From: "Loren Kowalchuk"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gunson's Colortune

Something just occured to me. A few days ago, someone posted
a request as to how to properly adjust his fuel mixture.

There is a product out there that I have purchased called Gunson's
Colortune which I'm sure a lot of you out there have heard about. It
is basically a spark plug with a clear plastic (and obviously heat
resistant) viewing window that you use in place of one of your spark
plugs. With the engine running, (of course) you simply look at the
color reflected in the glass and you can tell if your engine is
running too rich or too lean.

It seems to work very well. It costs about $40.00 US.
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 17:20:01 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Stock or not to stock

I agree that it is a good thing to keep a stock truck stock. Even
though my trucks are all medium modified daily drivers....a fellow in
town just bought a 53 custom cab with a factory automatic and flathead.
I am encouraging him to keep this truck stock, since it seems to me to
be a special truck. If he had bought a "regular" 53, I would have no
opinion. I think one can hold contradictory views on this subject and
still be correct.

Paul Gayda
7 months to the Forge
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:43:18 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Chat

FTEers,

Am I the only person going to our chat room only to never find anyone there?

Glenn in TN
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:28:29 -0400
From: "sam fugate"
Subject: Fw: FTE Pre61 - Chat

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From: sam fugate
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, October 09, 1999 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Chat


>Glenn,
>I've been there several times and found no one to talk to.
> While I'm here,,, where is the BBS that Ken has mentioned on some of his
>posts??? Obviously I'm missing something.
>
>Sam I Am
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RJC988 aol.com
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Saturday, October 09, 1999 7:43 PM
>Subject: FTE Pre61 - Chat
>
>
>>FTEers,
>>
>>Am I the only person going to our chat room only to never find anyone
>there?
>>
>>Glenn in TN
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>

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:04:06 EDT
From: FISHROT1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Chat

No, I go and I'm the only one there..........
Erik
69 F-100 Custom Cab
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:16:48 EDT
From: Flathead52 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Gunson's Colortune

Sounds like a neat thing to have were can I find one?

Tom
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:45:23 -0700
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Sentimental Value/Just like new

Mel and others,

All though I prefer the stock trucks I agree with Mel that whatever makes
you feel good is OK. I just have some difficulty taking a completely stock
truck and taking out the engine, transmission, interior, suspension, wheels,
gages, etc. Basically you are useing an old shell on a new chassis. Might as
well buy a new truck.
Kreig
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>
>This brings up another point of view. Wow, we do have a lot to say don't
we?
> If your Unc's truck was really sentimental, you would just get it running
>and leave it the way he left it. Dirt and all. Anything you restore or
>clean up, you are removing part of him. If you really did anything for
>sentiment, you would encapsulate it in his memory. Do you even remember
how
>it looked when he bought it new? Your memories are all of how he kept it
>since he bought it. My Dad passed away 10 years ago and his El Camino sat
in
>the garage for 5 years. He was by no means a Hot Rodder. He used to think
I
>was goofy because I have to modify everything I own. Anyway, it came time
>for Mom to send the El Camino (Leo) on to a happier restored life and she
>gave it to me for that purpose. Didn't do much to it, just new suspension,
>slightly lower, 8" Vette Rallyes 50 series 265's, Complete detailing stock
>looking interior but got rid of all the naughahyde, a little chrome in the
>engine compartment and a great Silver Blue Paint job/new vynal top. Going
>down the street it just looks better than stock, even Dad would love it and
>Mom smiles admirably every time she sees it. So I guess what I am saying,
is
>we need to do to our hobbies what "FEELS" good, like I said before. We
can't
>try to please everyone, only ourselves.
>
>Mel
>1953 f100
>1934 5w
>1934 Roadster
>1970 El Camino(Leo)
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:48:32 -0700
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 16" vs 17" rims

The two trucks in my back yard are:

1952 F-2 with 16" rims and tires

1950 F-2 with 17" rims and tries.

Which is correct? Or are both sizes correct?

I went to the library looking for information on old Fords. None!! No
books.

Any one have the answers??
Thanks, Kreig
Bellingham, Wa

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:19:55 EDT
From: J41Ford aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Chat

New to the club.. where is the chat room??
Joe
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:06:22 -0400
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 16" vs 17" rims

I checked my 49-52 Ford shop manual and it shows in spec. pages:
F-2's having 16" tires, 6.50 standard, 7.00 and 7.50 optional.
F-3's having 17" tires 7.00 standard, 7.50 optional with some
having more ply ratings. These are also 2-pc. wheels, split
in center. No tire stores will change these wheels, called
"suicide rims" because of insurance coverage for splitting
when filled with air. They ARE a bear to change by hand,
I have done some. Best bet is to sandblast wheel with
tire on them and repaint and use as is if tires aren't
real bad shape.....

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