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To: pre61-list-digest Subject: pre61-list-digest V3 #291 Reply-To: pre61-list Sender: owner-pre61-list-digest Errors-To: owner-pre61-list-digest Precedence: bulk pre61-list-digest Saturday, October 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 291 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box FTE Pre61 - One more time RE: FTE Pre61 - One more time FTE Pre61 - 57 Ford Cab repair Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:04:47 -0400 From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration Larry, Here is one last thought. Shows... With a restoration to stock there is only so much you can do. You either get very lucky and find all of the right NOS stuff and have a very detailed truck or not. In judged shows, the points pile up on attention to detail and quality of restoration. In showing a custom truck you run up against a different set of criteria. There is no end to what you can do and how much you can spend. Let me give you two examples. There is a 55 Merc Effie that a total chrome frame, Gold plated Jag rear end, and a Ford big block with the best looking blower set up I have ever seen. All the plumbing is chrome plated. All the fittings are gold plated. The guy who did it built it for the ISCA World of Wheels series and did it to win. He did. Invested over 125,000 bucks. He only does a couple of local shows a year but always takes home 1st in class and best of show. Another one is a very unusual 56 effie with hydrallic everything; tilt front clip, tilt bed and suicide door. He also has over 100,000 in it. We only show our truck when there is a class for "stock" commercial. Know matter how nice of a stock restoration you have you will not compete well with the big dollar trucks, not to say that my investment is for the faint of heart. Our truck was on the cover of one of the magazines and done right. But again, once it is done it is done. I can not pull parts off and run to the chrome shop to get more points. Howard - -----Original Message----- From: Larrykvet To: pre61-list Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 11:12 PM Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration >I want to thank all you guys for the opinions on what to do with my truck- I >have been given a lot of food for thought- I have not decided for sure what I >am going to do- I am going to piddle around a liitle until I decide for sure >what to do- I know what i want- a shiny tight looking street rod- and I am >not a money grubber- I did not buy the truck to make money- that is what I go >to work every day for- I will keep you posted- probably with many more "new >guy" type questions as I go along- thanks again -larry >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 06:37:26 -0700 From: "Kreig McBride" Subject: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box Stock versus restoration. What a topic, and lots of opinions. Here are some thoughts: A year or so ago I read a letter to the editor about a guy who just inherited his grandfathers 40's vintage truck. All original, good shape, running, drove it home etc. A couple of dings in the fenders, faded paint, original worn interior. He was so excited to have his grandfathers truck with all the memories. His question was what modern engine/tranny should he put into it? What kind of wheels? Etc. He had an all original, unmodified truck with memories. He was going to end up with a roded truck that would go twice as fast, not sound anything like the original, and the driving experience would be gone. Why?? I would have maintened the truck as original or restored it to as new. Roding this truck would have destroyed it's history, and, in my opinion, it's value. I have a 52 Ford F-2. I will maintain it as an original(As soon as I can get a flat head into it.) the 1950 Parts truck will donate it's engine to my project. Hopefully someone will take this rust bucket and return it to the road either as stock or as a rod. Conclusion. I like stock trucks and appreciate modified ones. Please keep original trucks original, and make modified trucks into whatever you want. I use my 52 for pleasure and an occasional errand. Everytime I drive it, someone wants to buy it. My friend with his modified 51 never gets asked this question. Kreig in Bellingham, Wa == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:45:02 EDT From: J41Ford Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box I'm with you!! Preserving history, one truck at a time!! Joe j41ford == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:04:36 EDT From: RJC988 Subject: FTE Pre61 - One more time In a message dated 10/8/99 9:52:27 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-pre61-list-digest From: Larrykvet Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration I want to thank all you guys for the opinions on what to do with my truck- I have been given a lot of food for thought- I have not decided for sure what I am going to do- I am going to piddle around a liitle until I decide for sure what to do- I know what i want- a shiny tight looking street rod- and I am not a money grubber- I did not buy the truck to make money- that is what I go to work every day for- I will keep you posted- probably with many more "new guy" type questions as I go along- thanks again -larry >> Larry, After getting too much feedback, let me add this because I don't think it got mentioned. DRIVE your truck for a while before starting to do major work that will keep you truck in the garage for long periods of time (assuming it does drive now). I drove mine home and started taking it apart. After 2 years of "work" I have not driven it. It is very discouraging to have a truck that sits! Driving it lets you know what you can live with and what you want to change. Do little things that won't cost a lot of money or time. The missus will like your "toy" much more this way! Glenn in TN == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 10:23:53 -0600 From: "Kitchen, Ken" Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - One more time Glenn, I am in total agreement. I bought a good mostly original drive this spring. The intent was to blow it apart immediately but life got in the way. So I was forced to drive it as is for several months. I am really glad I did. I have a better understanding and appreciation of what I have now. I will still build the hot rod truck but I'm not in as big a hurry to do it as I thought I was. Ken Kitchen Colorado Springs, CO Email: Ken.Kitchen ---------- From: RJC988 Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:05 AM To: pre61-list Subject: FTE Pre61 - One more time In a message dated 10/8/99 9:52:27 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-pre61-list-digest From: Larrykvet Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration I want to thank all you guys for the opinions on what to do with my truck- I have been given a lot of food for thought- I have not decided for sure what I am going to do- I am going to piddle around a liitle until I decide for sure what to do- I know what i want- a shiny tight looking street rod- and I am not a money grubber- I did not buy the truck to make money- that is what I go to work every day for- I will keep you posted- probably with many more "new guy" type questions as I go along- thanks again -larry >> Larry, After getting too much feedback, let me add this because I don't think it got mentioned. DRIVE your truck for a while before starting to do major work that will keep you truck in the garage for long periods of time (assuming it does drive now). I drove mine home and started taking it apart. After 2 years of "work" I have not driven it. It is very discouraging to have a truck that sits! Driving it lets you know what you can live with and what you want to change. Do little things that won't cost a lot of money or time. The missus will like your "toy" much more this way! Glenn in TN == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:10:13 -0700 From: "Loren Kowalchuk" Subject: FTE Pre61 - 57 Ford Cab repair I'd like to thank everyone for their help with the first problem that I brought up here regarding the repair work that I'm going to have to do for my rotted out cab. I'm going to investigate Shawn's suggestion of The Old Car Center in Langley BC. However, I'm preparing myself for the possibility that I'm just going to have to perform reconstructive surgery myself. Loren '57 F100 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:45:18 EDT From: PWPTRUCK1 Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box Couldn't have said it better mayself, Kreig. I am in a similar situation with you. I got my Uncle's '52 F-3 when he passed away in May of '98. The truck sat behind the barn for 26 years, and I have always wanted this truck since I was very young. This truck is priceless to me because it belonged to him. He used it to work in his hay fiesld many years ago. My main goal in this restoration is to bring it back to the condition when He bought it new. I guess you could say that the value of my truck is more sentimental value than how many bucks it could collect if I sold it, which I don't plan on doing. My two cents. .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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