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pre61-list-digest Saturday, October 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 291



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration
FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box
Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box
FTE Pre61 - One more time
RE: FTE Pre61 - One more time
FTE Pre61 - 57 Ford Cab repair
Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:04:47 -0400
From: "Howard H. Tarnoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration

Larry,

Here is one last thought. Shows...

With a restoration to stock there is only so much you can do.
You either get very lucky and find all of the right NOS stuff and
have a very detailed truck or not. In judged shows, the points
pile up on attention to detail and quality of restoration.

In showing a custom truck you run up against a different set
of criteria. There is no end to what you can do and how much
you can spend. Let me give you two examples. There is a 55
Merc Effie that a total chrome frame, Gold plated Jag rear end,
and a Ford big block with the best looking blower set up I have
ever seen. All the plumbing is chrome plated. All the fittings are
gold plated. The guy who did it built it for the ISCA World of
Wheels series and did it to win. He did. Invested over 125,000
bucks. He only does a couple of local shows a year but always
takes home 1st in class and best of show. Another one is
a very unusual 56 effie with hydrallic everything; tilt front clip, tilt
bed and suicide door. He also has over 100,000 in it.

We only show our truck when there is a class for "stock" commercial.
Know matter how nice of a stock restoration you have you will not
compete well with the big dollar trucks, not to say that my investment
is for the faint of heart. Our truck was on the cover of one of the
magazines and done right. But again, once it is done it is done. I
can not pull parts off and run to the chrome shop to get more points.

Howard
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From: Larrykvet aol.com
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Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 11:12 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration


>I want to thank all you guys for the opinions on what to do with my truck-
I
>have been given a lot of food for thought- I have not decided for sure what
I
>am going to do- I am going to piddle around a liitle until I decide for
sure
>what to do- I know what i want- a shiny tight looking street rod- and I am
>not a money grubber- I did not buy the truck to make money- that is what I
go
>to work every day for- I will keep you posted- probably with many more "new
>guy" type questions as I go along- thanks again -larry
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 06:37:26 -0700
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box

Stock versus restoration. What a topic, and lots of opinions.
Here are some thoughts:

A year or so ago I read a letter to the editor about a guy who just
inherited his grandfathers 40's vintage truck. All original, good shape,
running, drove it home etc. A couple of dings in the fenders, faded paint,
original worn interior. He was so excited to have his grandfathers truck
with all the memories. His question was what modern engine/tranny should he
put into it? What kind of wheels? Etc.

He had an all original, unmodified truck with memories. He was going to end
up with a roded truck that would go twice as fast, not sound anything like
the original, and the driving experience would be gone. Why?? I would have
maintened the truck as original or restored it to as new. Roding this truck
would have destroyed it's history, and, in my opinion, it's value.

I have a 52 Ford F-2. I will maintain it as an original(As soon as I can get
a flat head into it.) the 1950 Parts truck will donate it's engine to my
project. Hopefully someone will take this rust bucket and return it to the
road either as stock or as a rod.

Conclusion. I like stock trucks and appreciate modified ones. Please keep
original trucks original, and make modified trucks into whatever you want.
I use my 52 for pleasure and an occasional errand. Everytime I drive it,
someone wants to buy it. My friend with his modified 51 never gets asked
this question.

Kreig in Bellingham, Wa

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:45:02 EDT
From: J41Ford aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box

I'm with you!! Preserving history, one truck at a time!!
Joe
j41ford aol.com 1941 ford 1/2 ton PU
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:04:36 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - One more time

In a message dated 10/8/99 9:52:27 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: Larrykvet aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration

I want to thank all you guys for the opinions on what to do with my truck- I
have been given a lot of food for thought- I have not decided for sure what
I
am going to do- I am going to piddle around a liitle until I decide for sure
what to do- I know what i want- a shiny tight looking street rod- and I am
not a money grubber- I did not buy the truck to make money- that is what I
go
to work every day for- I will keep you posted- probably with many more "new
guy" type questions as I go along- thanks again -larry >>

Larry,

After getting too much feedback, let me add this because I don't think it got
mentioned. DRIVE your truck for a while before starting to do major work that
will keep you truck in the garage for long periods of time (assuming it does
drive now). I drove mine home and started taking it apart. After 2 years of
"work" I have not driven it. It is very discouraging to have a truck that
sits! Driving it lets you know what you can live with and what you want to
change. Do little things that won't cost a lot of money or time. The missus
will like your "toy" much more this way!

Glenn in TN
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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 10:23:53 -0600
From: "Kitchen, Ken"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - One more time

Glenn,

I am in total agreement. I bought a good mostly original drive this spring.
The intent was to blow it apart immediately but life got in the way. So I
was forced to drive it as is for several months. I am really glad I did. I
have a better understanding and appreciation of what I have now. I will
still build the hot rod truck but I'm not in as big a hurry to do it as I
thought I was.

Ken Kitchen
Colorado Springs, CO

Email: Ken.Kitchen lmco.com

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Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:05 AM
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - One more time

In a message dated 10/8/99 9:52:27 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: Larrykvet aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration

I want to thank all you guys for the opinions on what to do with my
truck- I
have been given a lot of food for thought- I have not decided for
sure what
I
am going to do- I am going to piddle around a liitle until I decide
for sure
what to do- I know what i want- a shiny tight looking street rod-
and I am
not a money grubber- I did not buy the truck to make money- that is
what I
go
to work every day for- I will keep you posted- probably with many
more "new
guy" type questions as I go along- thanks again -larry >>

Larry,

After getting too much feedback, let me add this because I don't
think it got
mentioned. DRIVE your truck for a while before starting to do major
work that
will keep you truck in the garage for long periods of time (assuming
it does
drive now). I drove mine home and started taking it apart. After 2
years of
"work" I have not driven it. It is very discouraging to have a truck
that
sits! Driving it lets you know what you can live with and what you
want to
change. Do little things that won't cost a lot of money or time. The
missus
will like your "toy" much more this way!

Glenn in TN
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:10:13 -0700
From: "Loren Kowalchuk"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 57 Ford Cab repair

I'd like to thank everyone for their help with the first problem that I
brought up here regarding the repair work that I'm going to have to
do for my rotted out cab.

I'm going to investigate Shawn's suggestion of The Old Car Center
in Langley BC. However, I'm preparing myself for the possibility
that I'm just going to have to perform reconstructive surgery myself.

Loren
'57 F100
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:45:18 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Stock versus restoration/soap box

Couldn't have said it better mayself, Kreig. I am in a similar situation
with you. I got my Uncle's '52 F-3 when he passed away in May of '98. The
truck sat behind the barn for 26 years, and I have always wanted this truck
since I was very young. This truck is priceless to me because it belonged to
him. He used it to work in his hay fiesld many years ago. My main goal in
this restoration is to bring it back to the condition when He bought it new.
I guess you could say that the value of my truck is more sentimental value
than how many bucks it could collect if I sold it, which I don't plan on
doing.
My two cents.

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