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pre61-list-digest Tuesday, October 5 1999 Volume 03 : Number 287



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: Engine Sealing
Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list
FTE Pre61 - Western Auto
Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto
Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto
FTE Pre61 - Newcomer 1957 F-100
Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto
Re: FTE Pre61 - Newcomer 1957 F-100
FTE Pre61 - western auto /rusted door pillars
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead
FTE Pre61 - Reply to Kreig McBride
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 07:10:18 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Engine Sealing

Jeff wrote: "Hi, all, I am having trouble with the rear seal of the
intake manifold on my 390. I installed an Edelbrock manifold, and as per
their instructions, used silicone rather than the cork end seals. For a
week, this worked fine, then after a short (30 mile) freeway trip, the
rear seal began leaking again (the original manifold leaked here too).
Any ideas?"

While this may sound like a shameless plug, intake manifold seals is
one of the few areas in auto repair where brand name seems to make a
difference. Try using Fel-Pro seals for that 390. The seals seem to fit
better than other brands, and the compound they use seems to be more
firm and stays in place better while you're lowering the intake in
place.
- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 07:39:07 -0500
From: Troy McClung
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto

There is a tractor sales shop in St Cloud, Fl. It is in a Western Auto
Building and the guy does have some old Western Auto mowers. I don't know
the number but it is on highway 192. By the way, I don't remember Western
Auto, and my '59 F-100 4x4 is 14 years older than I am.
Troy
59 F-100 4x4 stepside


At 04:22 PM 10/4/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I got a Western Auto story for you. We still have a Western auto riding
>lawn mower. It still runs and drives, the problem is the mower deck is
>shot. Does anyone know where we can get parts for the deck? It's a lot
>easier finding parts for my '50 F-2. By the way, I sure wish I was the same
>age as a '51.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JRFiero aol.com
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 3:59 PM
>Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 52 F1 Radio, Jonas
>
>
>>In a message dated 10/3/1999 5:13:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>>TNickolson aol.com writes:
>>
>>> There were a lot of after market radios sold by the dealers and places
>like
>>> "Western Auto". You may not be old enough to know who they were.
>>>
>>Now, just wait a minute. My '51 is the same age as I. Kids that worked in
>>the Western Auto in Bar Harbor, ME used to call it 'Wasted Auto.' The last
>>one I remember being in was Oak Ridge, TN.
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:05:18 -0700
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list

Scott,
I do not have the 48 home yet. Hope to haul it next week. Vaccum wipers?
Well . . . .Don't know. My 52 has electrics. Hubcaps. There are two on the
truck and the owner says he has the other two. I need caps for the 52. Are
the hubcaps for the 48 and 52 the same?? Both trucks are 3/4 ton.

Kreig

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Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list


>Great to hear that you have a 52! I also have a 52 but it is a half
>ton. Do you have any extra parts for it or need any? Also, the 48
>that you have, is it a vaccum wiper motor? If so I know someone who
>needs one if you are willing to sell. And there is a guy on the list
>who is looking for the 17" rims or the F2 hubcaps off them. He'll prob
>email you about them. I have a page on my 52 and I am always looking
>for photos so if you have one then could you send it to me and I'll put
>it up on my page.
>Scott
>
>--- Kreig McBride wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I have a 52 Ford 3/4 ton PU. Use it for controlling traffic speeds and
>> running errands. I believe the truck is all stock except it has a 289
>> engine in it.
>>
>> Today I purchased a really rough 1948 Ford 3/4 ton PU with original
flathead
>> with all the correct parts such as radiator, shroud, generator, etc.
>> I assume this engine should tuck right into the 52. Am I doing the
>> right thing here? Will the engine fit OK?
>>
>> Also the 48 has 17" wheels where as the 52 has 16" wheels. Which size
>> is correct??
>>
>> Thanks for any replies,
>>
>> Kreig McBride
>> Bellingham, Wa
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:34:27 EDT
From: My59f100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto

In a message dated 10/5/99 5:52:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


lawn mower. It still runs and drives, the problem is the mower deck is
shot. Does anyone know where we can get parts for the deck? >>
We still have a Western Auto up here in Bennington,VT
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:42:21 EDT
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto

Your are hardly adult age.

Tom Nickolson
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:11:38 -0500
From: Troy McClung
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto

So I've been told.

At 12:42 PM 10/5/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Your are hardly adult age.
>
>Tom Nickolson
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:09:12 -0700
From: "Loren Kowalchuk"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Newcomer 1957 F-100

Greetings everyone. I just joined this list a few days ago and I've
been very impressed with the discussions I've read so far. It
seems like you are all a great bunch who really likes to help one
another.

I am from Edmonton, Canada and the owner of a 1957 F-100
longbox with a straight 6. It has been in the family since it was
bought new and it is pretty much original except for some minor
things like an alternator and an oil filter adapter kit. It has 110,000
original miles on it and it still purrs like a kitten (well maybe
exaggerating on that slightly but it still starts on the first try... even
at 30 below).

Now that I have the means to do so, I'm serious about restoring
this baby and I'm sure to have a lot of stupid questions for all you
seasoned FTE's. Please be patient.

Okay, stupid question #1: Before I even start this, I need to know
what I can do with the portion of the cab behind the front fenders
that has deteriorated quite badly. This includes the outside air
vents all the way down to about midway along the running board as
well as part of the floor in the cab. There's very little to work with
here and I would need some kind of replacement pieces that I
could weld into place. Is there such a thing or am I wasting my
time?

I've looked over the whole truck and this seems to be my biggest
concern right now since I can make like Fred Flinstone by sticking
my feet through to the ground and paddling my feet.

Thanks for your time.

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ed Ellston
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto

I used to go to Western Auto all the time in Moosup,
CT when I was growing up.

- --- Troy McClung wrote:
> So I've been told.
>
> At 12:42 PM 10/5/99 EDT, you wrote:
> >Your are hardly adult age.
> >
> >Tom Nickolson
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:28:38 -0700
From: "shawn"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Newcomer 1957 F-100

In Canada you can call The OLD CAR Center. they have everything you need for
trucks as well in. No currency to
worry about, if you need their number let me know. they have parts
catalogues for f100's from 48-60's
fenders, running boards, body panels, floorboards, pretty well everything to
rebuild the entire truck if need be.
They are located in Langley BC canada
shawnwo home.com


> Okay, stupid question #1: Before I even start this, I need to know
> what I can do with the portion of the cab behind the front fenders
> that has deteriorated quite badly. This includes the outside air
> vents all the way down to about midway along the running board as
> well as part of the floor in the cab. There's very little to work with
> here and I would need some kind of replacement pieces that I
> could weld into place. Is there such a thing or am I wasting my
> time?
>
> I've looked over the whole truck and this seems to be my biggest
> concern right now since I can make like Fred Flinstone by sticking
> my feet through to the ground and paddling my feet.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Loren.
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:34:04 +0100
From: "Tim Mortimore"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - western auto /rusted door pillars

first western auto: (from the western auto/advance autoparts website)

On August 17, 1998, Sears, Roebuck and Co. and Advance Auto Parts announced
that the Western Auto subsidiary of Sears, including both the retail and
wholesale operations, would merge with Advance. Western Auto / Parts
America, which traces its roots back to 1909, came to the new partnership
with an impressive history in its own right. The merger of Parts
America/Western Auto and Advance Auto Parts is a strong combination of
experience, expertise, commitment, and tradition. The two companies share
almost a century of experience in the automotive industry, and their
combined power will drive the Advance Auto Parts family to even further
success.

geez, i thought i had heard the name recently...they also sponsor some nhra
events.

second, regarding patchpanels for the door pillar/cab support area. i've
looked for aftermarket parts with no luck. the only alternative we've found
is we're gonna have to fabricate the whole thing....man what a pain in the
ass and well beyond my capabilities, so my friend is gonna have to do all of
this part. $$$

tim mortimore
58 panel, totally rust free/lots of holes all in black sealer.
88 conversion/regattamobile
94 villager


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Loren Kowalchuk
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 9:09 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Newcomer 1957 F-100


> Greetings everyone. I just joined this list a few days ago and I've
> been very impressed with the discussions I've read so far. It
> seems like you are all a great bunch who really likes to help one
> another.
>
> I am from Edmonton, Canada and the owner of a 1957 F-100
> longbox with a straight 6. It has been in the family since it was
> bought new and it is pretty much original except for some minor
> things like an alternator and an oil filter adapter kit. It has 110,000
> original miles on it and it still purrs like a kitten (well maybe
> exaggerating on that slightly but it still starts on the first try... even
> at 30 below).
>
> Now that I have the means to do so, I'm serious about restoring
> this baby and I'm sure to have a lot of stupid questions for all you
> seasoned FTE's. Please be patient.
>
> Okay, stupid question #1: Before I even start this, I need to know
> what I can do with the portion of the cab behind the front fenders
> that has deteriorated quite badly. This includes the outside air
> vents all the way down to about midway along the running board as
> well as part of the floor in the cab. There's very little to work with
> here and I would need some kind of replacement pieces that I
> could weld into place. Is there such a thing or am I wasting my
> time?
>
> I've looked over the whole truck and this seems to be my biggest
> concern right now since I can make like Fred Flinstone by sticking
> my feet through to the ground and paddling my feet.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Loren.
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:25:12 -0400
From: "Bill Robinson"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead

Try this! Get liquid WD-40, mix 50/50 with brake fluid, squirt that into
cylinders.
This mixture will do wonders for a "stuck" engine.
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From: J41Ford aol.com
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead


>paul,
> Try this...
> When the spark plugs are out.. squirt some WD40 in each cylinder. Rotate
>the motor, several times, with spark plugs still out. This helps lubricate
>the cylinder walls. (be sure there is oil in the crank case, and the oil
>pump works properly)
> The WD40 will help the pistons slide in the cylinders easier, at that
>point, you should notice the motor turning faster, and easier. Put the
spark
>plugs back in,
>and it will be easier to turn over, when jumping it.
>Joe
>j41ford (41 ford 1/2 pu)
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:28:51 -0400
From: "Bill Robinson"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure

Where is this small pipe plug? I just put my flatty back together & don't
remember a "small pipe plug" Too much invested to screw it up now.
Thanks,
Bill
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From: RVoice2723 aol.com
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure


>Paul something is wrong. Do not run your engine until you find where your
>oil pressure is being lost. I had a similar problem after rebuilding an
>engine and it turned out being a small pipe plug at the back of the engine
>that plugs the cylinder block main oil line. Forgot to put the dang thing
in
>and had to pull the engine again to fix it. There could be several causes
>including no oil line restrictor at the oil filter, stuck pressure relief
>valve or defective, bad oil pressure gauge, exc. But you should have at
>least 10 pounds pressure at idle when hot.
>
>Bob from Mich
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:39:55 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list

In a message dated 10/5/1999 12:45:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kmcbride memes.com writes:

> Today I purchased a really rough 1948 Ford 3/4 ton PU with original flathead
> with all the correct parts such as radiator, shroud, generator, etc. I
> assume this engine should tuck right into the 52. Am I doing the right
thing
> here? Will the engine fit OK?
I'm sure you'll eventually get more knowledgable info on this, but
that's the wrong flathead for a 52. The 48 and earlier had a half
bellhousing cast with the block, the 49-53 do not. Bunch of other little
things are different. But, if you transplant engine and tranny, it should
fit.
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:50:35 EDT
From: FISHROT1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead

Just use ATF.
Erik
1960 F-100 Custom Cab
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:55:16 -0700
From: GUYETTE Phillip
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Reply to Kreig McBride

I recently did exactly what you're planning (installing a Flathead V8 out of
a pre'52 pickup in a '52 pickup). You've made a wise choice purchasing an
entire truck for the swap as there are a number of differences between the
6cyl and V8 trucks (radiator, hood shroud, throttle bellcrank, etc.). Your
'48 will have everything you need except the front motor mount stands; these
are common ONLY to 1952. It took me months to find those two items. As an
alternative, you could remove the front crossmember from the '48 and install
it in your '52 and the '48 front engine mounts will work. You can e-mail me
at vegmanocf aol.com if you want more specific information. It's great to
see someone else installing the engine that should be there! Phillip
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 19:57:53 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list

At 06:39 PM 10/5/1999 -0400, JRFiero aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 10/5/1999 12:45:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>kmcbride memes.com writes:
>
>> Today I purchased a really rough 1948 Ford 3/4 ton PU with original flathead
>> with all the correct parts such as radiator, shroud, generator, etc. I
>> assume this engine should tuck right into the 52. Am I doing the right
>thing
>> here? Will the engine fit OK?
> I'm sure you'll eventually get more knowledgable info on this, but
>that's the wrong flathead for a 52. The 48 and earlier had a half....

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