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pre61-list-digest Tuesday, October 5 1999 Volume 03 : Number 286



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans
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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - re: 6cyl wanted
FTE Pre61 - engine sealing
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration
FTE Pre61 - Brake Pedal Setup after a PB Conversion
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 52 F1 Radio, Jonas
Re: FTE Pre61 - engine sealing
FTE Pre61 - Western Auto
FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list

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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:51:11 -0400
From: "Sheldon Rier"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - re: 6cyl wanted

Hi

someone posted the other day looking fo a 6 cyl

I have some good ones of varying vintages & displacements

is there a way to view archives of postings to this list - thought there was
but couldn't find on the website

Thanks!!
Sheldon

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 06:54:46 MST
From: "Jeff Thomas"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - engine sealing

Hi, all, I am having trouble with the rear seal of the intake manifold on my
390. I installed an Edelbrock manifold, and as per their instructions, used
silicone rather than the cork end seals. For a week, this worked fine, then
after a short (30 mile) freeway trip, the rear seal began leaking again (the
original manifold leaked here too). Any ideas? Hopefully I won't need to R&R
the manifold again- huge job on a 390! Thanks in advance!

Jeff T '56 FE-100

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:49:53 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration

Larrykvet aol.com wrote:
> 12 volt...alternator, and different wheels-the
> original 5 bolt 16" wheel were in the bed.
> I found the original sales receipt from 53 and the registration from each
> year from 53 -70's-I am now the 4th owner- I am begining to think that this
> truck will be worth more if I go back stock than if I do it up- questions-
> how much can you change this truck before it loses value?

The key here, you are the FOURTH owner, do you plan to be the last
owner? We've all seen custom trucks that are worth far more than any '53
will ever be worth, if was the last one on the planet. Value is in the
eye of the beholder, to some, a bone stock, original paint, dings and
all, will be worth more than the same vehicle repainted, restored and
polished. Same with modification, some people want a stock looking truck
with some speed parts, aluminum heads, 3 carbs and so on. Now I suppose,
a swimming pool in the back might be a net loss to almost any future
purchaser, but will it satisfy you now? I wouldn't suggest sawing the
top off, adding Desoto fins or mounting cow horns on the hood, but I've
seen all these things done, and they must have some strange appeal to
the owner.
It's your truck, do what you want to satisfy your particular
needs, but it seems from your initial post, you want a hot rod more than
a stocker, why not unload the one you have and buy what you want.
Somebody is going to be a lot happier with the semi stock truck you
have, and you may be happier with a more customized unit. Just don't
confuse value with condition, it's not a linear relationship.

47Fred
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:35:03 -0400
From: "fred g 454"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration

Larry,

From my experience, and if you look at the values of restored vs rodded
vehicles, rods are worth more. So, if you're only interested in an
investment Building a Rod is more expensive but worth more in the end. I
know people in my club that have bought a restored vehicle, then rodded it
because it was cheaper than finding a rough one and having the body/frame
work re-done. You should build what you want. A nice professionally restored
truck is worth around 12,000 depending on the year. Street rods start there
and go up.You can check recent values at the classic truckshop. com. I enjoy
both the restored and the rodded trucks. My two cents worth.

Fred
hotrod56

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>From: Larrykvet aol.com

I am begining to think that this
> truck will be worth more if I go back stock than if I do it up- questions-
> how much can you change this truck before it loses value? do you have to
> paint it with original colors- can you put chrome under the hood and nice
> wheels or will that reduce its value- thanks larry
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:54:04 -0500
From: "Whiteman, Bob"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Brake Pedal Setup after a PB Conversion

I was wondering if anyone out there has encountered an OEM brake pedal
assembly that bolts up without too much modification after doing the
Chrysler swap on the front end. Thanks for any advice.


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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:02:24 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 52 F1 Radio, Jonas

In a message dated 10/3/1999 5:13:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
TNickolson aol.com writes:

> There were a lot of after market radios sold by the dealers and places like
> "Western Auto". You may not be old enough to know who they were.
>
Now, just wait a minute. My '51 is the same age as I. Kids that worked in
the Western Auto in Bar Harbor, ME used to call it 'Wasted Auto.' The last
one I remember being in was Oak Ridge, TN.
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:07:17 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - engine sealing

Jeff wrote:
>Hi, all, I am having trouble with the rear seal of the intake manifold on my
>390. I installed an Edelbrock manifold, and as per their instructions, used
>silicone rather than the cork end seals. For a week, this worked fine, then
>after a short (30 mile) freeway trip, the rear seal began leaking again (the
>original manifold leaked here too). Any ideas?

This has been described here many times, but here's the procedure
again...

Clean all the surfaces to be sealed. Not just clean, but spotlessly
ruthlessly, perfectly clean. No trace of oil can remain. Wipe it
all down with brake cleaner or other solvent that evaporates away clean
and leaves no oily residue. That's the big key. If there is even the
slightest trace of oil left the silicone won't stick and you will
be doing it again soon.
When all is clean and dry, put down a bead of silicone about the same
thickness as the origional cork gaskets. About 1/8" thick?
Try and make it one continuous bead all the way across from one corner
to the other. Let the beads of sillycone set up until they are fairly
firm. I waited about 2 hours on mine.
Once they are firmed up good, lay another thin bead 1/16"? on top of the
first. Spooge a little extra silicone in the corners where the block,
manifold, and heads all meet. This is typically the trouble spot...
After the top beads are on and the corners generously covered with
silicone, immediately put the manifold on. It must go down as straight
as possible with out having to slide it around to line it up.
Get the bolts in and torque to spec. Don't forget to check and retighten
as necessary after a couple hundred miles...

That's how I install FE manifolds, and I've done it that way on several
and had good success. My FE with edelbrock manifold has about 60K miles
on it and is still very clean and dry. That's the way they should be
and I wouldn't settle for anything less!

Again, make absolutely sure that the gasket surfaces are *totally* oil
free before applying the silicone. That can make or break ya...

> Hopefully I won't need to R&R the manifold again- huge job on a 390!
> Thanks in advance!

It sounds like you get to do it one more time. Be thankful you've
got the edelbrock and not the stock manifold. That saves 50+ lbs on
your back...


Steve
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:22:24 -0700
From: "Roy Maul"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Western Auto

I got a Western Auto story for you. We still have a Western auto riding
lawn mower. It still runs and drives, the problem is the mower deck is
shot. Does anyone know where we can get parts for the deck? It's a lot
easier finding parts for my '50 F-2. By the way, I sure wish I was the same
age as a '51.

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From: JRFiero aol.com
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 52 F1 Radio, Jonas


>In a message dated 10/3/1999 5:13:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>TNickolson aol.com writes:
>
>> There were a lot of after market radios sold by the dealers and places
like
>> "Western Auto". You may not be old enough to know who they were.
>>
>Now, just wait a minute. My '51 is the same age as I. Kids that worked in
>the Western Auto in Bar Harbor, ME used to call it 'Wasted Auto.' The last
>one I remember being in was Oak Ridge, TN.
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:34:57 -0700
From: "Kreig McBride"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 52 Pick up/new to list

Hello,

I'm new to this list and I have heard you are all pretty nice to us new
guys, especially those of us with some pretty easy questions.

I have a 52 Ford 3/4 ton PU. Use it for controlling traffic speeds and
running errands. I believe the truck is all stock except it has a 289
engine in it.

Today I purchased a really rough 1948 Ford 3/4 ton PU with original flathead
with all the correct parts such as radiator, shroud, generator, etc. I
assume this engine should tuck right into the 52. Am I doing the right thing
here? Will the engine fit OK?

Also the 48 has 17" wheels where as the 52 has 16" wheels. Which size is
correct??

Thanks for any replies,

Kreig McBride
Bellingham, Wa....


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