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pre61-list-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 285



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In this issue:

reply to: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure
FTE Pre61 - Seat belts
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead
Re: FTE Pre61 - Seat belts
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure
Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure
FTE Pre61 - Re: 52 F1 Radio, Jonas
Re: FTE Pre61 - Back to building Barney
FTE Pre61 - rear view mirror needed (external hinge mount type)
FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration
FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61-trouble starting flathead-whoops!

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:06:33 EDT
From: VegmanOCF aol.com
Subject: reply to: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure

Paul, my freshly rebuilt flathead (with a new oil pump) has about 55 PSI oil
pressure cold and drops to about 30 PSI warm above 2000 RPM. At idle (warm)
it drops to about 10 PSI. Judging from other postings I've read, I don't
think that's a problem. However, if you've only got 10 PSI above 1500 RPM,
you've got a problem. Before tearing anything apart, put a known good
mechanical oil pressure gauge on the engine as see what the real oil pressure
is. Regarding the use of a 'used' oil pump, that's certainly a practice I've
avoided in 30-years as a professional auto mechanic. $65 for a new pump is
pretty cheap when you consider the cost of regrinding/replacing the
crankshaft and reconditioning the rods. Let us know what you find; I'll keep
my fingers crossed. Phillip
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:11:03 -0500
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Seat belts

Someday, Ill actually have my truck on the road and have to worry about
needing these things, but for now I'm trying to plan the logistics and mods
needed to prevent redoing work later.
I am going to put a set of seatbelts in the truck some day, but am concerned
about mounting points. Modern cars reinforce the area of the body they bolt
too, what have others done. I really would like 3-point in them, how about
the shoulder point? What mods should be necessary to install them
Steve
50-F1

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:26:11 EDT
From: Albec99 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead

Mine was sitting for 8 years the only way I could get it to spin fast enough
was to use a good 12V battery. Thats after I pulled all the plugs and shot
some oil in there. also make sure your fuel is good I had to clean the lines
out and throw some out. To make sure I was getting good fuel I connected a
rubber line on the feed side of the fuel filter and made sure everything from
there to the carb was clear and clean then I threw the other end of the fuel
line in a full gas can. Got her started but boy does she smoke I'll just
keep running her.

PS MAKE SURE YOU ARE GETTING A GOOD OIL FLOW I DROPPED THE SIX INCH OPENING
AND WAS GLAD I DID THE OIL WAS LIKE THICK MUD AROUND THE OIL PICK UP. GOOD
LUCK !!!!!! Al
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: cliff lynn
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Seat belts

When I installed the bels in my 57 I reinforcede them
with a peice of 1/4 inch stainless steal this should
do the trick with the lap part but the shoulder point
is another story u may check obsolete ford for a kit

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Cliff
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Do You Yahoo!?
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:37:09 EDT
From: J41Ford aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 trouble starting flathead

paul,
Try this...
When the spark plugs are out.. squirt some WD40 in each cylinder. Rotate
the motor, several times, with spark plugs still out. This helps lubricate
the cylinder walls. (be sure there is oil in the crank case, and the oil
pump works properly)
The WD40 will help the pistons slide in the cylinders easier, at that
point, you should notice the motor turning faster, and easier. Put the spark
plugs back in,
and it will be easier to turn over, when jumping it.
Joe
j41ford (41 ford 1/2 pu)
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:40:32 EDT
From: J41Ford aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure

At idle, it always will read low. Does it give you a high reading when
you're RPM's are higher?? If so, then it is normal.
If you don't get a high oil pressure reading at the higher RPM's..then it
could be the pump, or other components.
J41ford
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:40:27 EDT
From: RVoice2723 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure

Paul something is wrong. Do not run your engine until you find where your
oil pressure is being lost. I had a similar problem after rebuilding an
engine and it turned out being a small pipe plug at the back of the engine
that plugs the cylinder block main oil line. Forgot to put the dang thing in
and had to pull the engine again to fix it. There could be several causes
including no oil line restrictor at the oil filter, stuck pressure relief
valve or defective, bad oil pressure gauge, exc. But you should have at
least 10 pounds pressure at idle when hot.

Bob from Mich
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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 13:47:57 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61 low oil pressure

>Hi again, again guys. Just one more question and I'll stop all these
posts. I
>got my flathead fired up. When I first got it running, my oil pressure was
>about 50-60 psi. After running for a while, it dropped down to 10psi and at
>idle, the pressure is so low it won't even register on the guage. Could
it be
>that the oil pump is going out? that is one of the few parts I didn't
>replace. The guy at my shop said it was ok, but I'm not so sure now. The
>motor seems to run fine. No funny knocking or pining noises. I advice from
>you experienced Flatheader's?

The oil pressure in my flathead used to always be really low. This was in
the days before FTE so I had to go on my best instinct, which was to
replace the oil pump. It didn't make any difference, the pressure was
still low. After that I started using a mechanical pressure gauge and that
showed higher pressure than the original one. If you've got 10 psi for
every 1000 rpm then you're in good shape--so if you're cruising down the
street at 2000 rpm and have an oil pressure of 20 psi or higher then you're
fine. I was actually running a little bit less than that but nothing bad
ever happened.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Varoooooom!
1992 Mustang --Self adjusting clutch? In 4 years I don't think it's ever
adjusted itself!

Visit my Bonus Built 48-52 F Series Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~dwentz
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:05:56 EDT
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 52 F1 Radio, Jonas

It's the same old story, When all else fails, read the instructions. I looked
in the service manual and found the radios were manufactured by "COLONIAL",
had 8 tubes, Ford part number was 1A-18805D. Ford also used "Zenith" radios.
There were a lot of after market radios sold by the dealers and places like
"Western Auto". You may not be old enough to know who they were.

Now all I have to do is find one!

Thanks

Tom Nickolson
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:42:37 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Back to building Barney

In a message dated 10/2/1999 2:20:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
MichellHC aol.com writes:

> I have found most of
> the parts I need except for a left running board.
Michelle - great to 'hear your voice' again.
At Carlisle I saw DC Reproductions 'New Items' which include 53-56
running boards of their own manufacture, not the Rock Valley boards which
everyone else sells. Looked real nice, but $500 for the pair. And they
don't yet make 49-52 boards.
Good luck.
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:45:40 -0800
From: Brad Evans
Subject: FTE Pre61 - rear view mirror needed (external hinge mount type)

Hello:
Do you have any stock used external hinge mount rear view mirrors and or
mounting brackets for left and or right side for a 1948-1950 F1 Ford truck?
please send price (& picture or description) shipped to Grass Valley, CA
95945
Thanks
Brad Evans
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bradevans.com/truck.html


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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:28:09 EDT
From: Larrykvet aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration

thanks for all the advice on this list- a small update-and I would like
opinions- I was the guy that had just got the 53 and was looking for info-
after digging around all weekend I may have decided not to do all the street
rod changes on my truck- I have found after getting it running( and it purrs
like a kitten) that the only things that are not stock on this truck is a
paint job(decent), a 12 volt battery and alternator, and different wheels-the
original 5 bolt 16" wheel were in the bed. While diiging around in the glove
box I found the original sales receipt from 53 and the registration from each
year from 53 -70's-I am now the 4th owner- I am begining to think that this
truck will be worth more if I go back stock than if I do it up- questions-
how much can you change this truck before it loses value? do you have to
paint it with original colors- can you put chrome under the hood and nice
wheels or will that reduce its value- thanks larry (larrykvet aol.com
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:47:44 EDT
From: FISHROT1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 53 restoration

There are a couple of questions to ask yourself, are you doing this as an
investment or are you doing it for yourself and the love of the truck. If it
is the first one, bring it back to 100% stock. If you are doing it for the
second one, do anything you want but make no irreversable changes to the
truck, and keep all the original parts you remove.

Erik
1960 f-100 Custom
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:31:31 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - FTE Pre61-trouble starting flathead-whoops!

Hi Gang! I posted yesterday and having trouble starting my flatty with jumper
cables from my car directly to my '52's starter. I guess doing stupid things
end up with stupid results. The jumper cables couldn't handle the amperage
draw and got hot. I went down and bought me a good battery and battery
cables, hooked them to the starter. It spun over nicely and then fired right
up. Someone tell me I'm not the only one that ever tried this so I don't feel
....

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