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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - value of 1956 for t-800
FTE Pre61 - rear fender patches
FTE Pre61 - Re: 223 I6
FTE Pre61 - Reply to Paul
FTE Pre61 - 57 locks
Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: 460 V8 Swap
Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks
Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks
FTE Pre61 - Re: no beer steering adjstment
Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks
FTE Pre61 - Re: '66 Rear End

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:19:13 EDT
From: Upeele aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - value of 1956 for t-800

thanks for the responce to my "56" ford t-800 question, i've been looking
ford an older dump truck for private use. this t-800 tandem dump is in
surprisingly good condition,
body is not dented up at all, seats are not torn, bed & box are some what
dented but that's to be expected. it needs a new water pump and the owner
put new rubber on it.he wants $3500.00 for it. i don't know what to think
about that price, any opinions?
scott, upeele aol.com.
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:32:03 -0400
From: "Sheldon Rier"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - rear fender patches

Hi All

is there anybody that makes formed patch panels for the lower front (where
the running boards mount) for 53>72 rear fenders

Thanks!!!
Sheldon

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:35:29 EDT
From: GEMcC5150 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 223 I6

Eric,

I know were there is dub 1 Bel intake man for a 223 if you want info e-mail
me and I can hook you up.

George
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:23:31 -0700
From: GUYETTE Phillip
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Reply to Paul

Regarding the patch panels you're looking for: Patch panels for the rear
fenders are VERY easy to make yourself. Use a dremmel or cut-off tool to
cut a rectangular patch slightly larger than the rusted area where the
running board meets the rear fender. Trace the opening you cut on to light
cardboard (old cereal box) and cut it out so you have an exact pattern.
Transfer the pattern to a piece of new sheet metal (or a straight piece off
a junk body panel that you can get for free at most any body shop), and have
it wire welded in place. Don't gas weld or braise it, you'll warp the
fenders. E-mail me at vegmanocf aol.com if you want further information.
Phillip

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> FTE Pre61 - Patch Panel
> FTE Pre61 - '57 Door Locks
> FTE Pre61 - an Answer for Andy
> FTE Pre61 - 390 manifold
> Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear fenders on Ebay
> FTE Pre61 - need fender patch for 52 F-3
> FTE Pre61 - Tying Springs Together
> Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear fenders on Ebay
> FTE Pre61 - 223 I-6 rebuild
> FTE Pre61 - speedometer cable
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:43:18 -0700
> From: Steve Bittman
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Patch Panel
>
> I need to get the rusted driver side floor replaced on my '56, but don't
> have the welding skill. Can anyone reccommend a good body shop ion the
> Oakland, California area? Or is anyone out there that has done it
> interested in getting together with me on this? I can bring the patch
> panel and some beer! Steve
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:01:49 -0500
> From: "Brian C Nyman"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - '57 Door Locks
>
> My '58 has the described locking mechanism. So I would assume that your
> 57
> would have the same setup.
>
> Brian Nyman
> Allina Health Systems Provider Support
> bnyman allina.com
> 612-775-1537
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:49:18 -0700
> From: Marilyn Boese
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - an Answer for Andy
>
> Andy,
> If you use the earlier flathead dual intake on the later flathead, you
> won't have correct crankcase ventilation and that will allow water and
> acid to build up in your oil. If you are a member of, or can join, the
> Early Ford V8 Club, I just wrote a column that is coming out in Sept/Oct
> issue about this topic. I think their site is www.earlyfordv8.org
> Red
>
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:46:00 GMT
> From: "Ford Enthusiast"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 390 manifold
>
> I have a 4 bbl manifold that has 2 tubes coming out of the rear that are
> positioned across from each other. Could anyone tell me what these tubes
> are
> for and is there any significant value associated with this manifold?
>
> On another note. I have found a 65 F-100 that is smashed up on the
> front
> and was wondering if a 9" rear was standard in this year. I am considering
>
> putting this and the bed onto my '55.
>
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:38:16 -0400
> From: "Bill Robinson"
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear fenders on Ebay
>
> Under what catagory on e-bay?????
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Jones
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 11:45 PM
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear fenders on Ebay
>
>
> >For anyone interested, there are a pair of rear fenders for a '51-2 on
> the
> >Ebay site. They are going for about $390 but they look nice. I can't
> tell
> >if they're F-1 or F-2-3s. The add says they are take offs and have been
> in
> >storage since the fifties. Take a look.
> >
> >Bob Jones
> >'49 F-2
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:33:45 EDT
> From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - need fender patch for 52 F-3
>
> Hi Folks. I am looking for repair patch panels for the front fenders of my
>
> '52 F-3. I know they are different from the F-1's. I need the lower rear
> patches, the lower front extensions and the patch for the front fender
> area
> that the lower extension bolts up to.
> I have tried a few suppliers like Sac Vintage, but they only carry stuff
>
> for the F-1. Any body know where I can find these pieces for my F-3?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:07:16 -0400
> From: "Sheldon Rier"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tying Springs Together
>
> Hi Dan
>
> newer vehicles usually use a paper or plastic covered rod clamped to the
> springs (all the covering does is reduce squeaks)
>
> hog rings or nylon wire ties can be used to hold a wire in place or you
> can
> tye them with a nylon cord
>
> this will firm up the seat & reduce the chances of a single spring
> breaking - using a resilient urethane foam you can still look stock but
> have
> much greater comfort
>
> Sheldon Rier
> Canada
>
>
> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:33:56 -0700
> From: Dan Wentz
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Seat Question: Tying Springs Together
>
> I wrote a couple weeks ago about recovering my seat. Somebody mentioned
> that while I was at it I should tie the springs together to spread the
> weight out better. Could I get some details on this please? What is
> durable enough to tie them together and last? Would hog rings be good?
>
> Thanks
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:11:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Scott
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear fenders on Ebay
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=162962068
>
> - --- Bill Robinson wrote:
> > Under what catagory on e-bay?????
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Jones
> > To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> > Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 11:45 PM
> > Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear fenders on Ebay
> >
> >
> > >For anyone interested, there are a pair of rear fenders for a '51-2
> > on the
> > >Ebay site. They are going for about $390 but they look nice. I
> > can't tell
> > >if they're F-1 or F-2-3s. The add says they are take offs and have
> > been in
> > >storage since the fifties. Take a look.
> > >
> > >Bob Jones
> > >'49 F-2
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> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:54:34 EDT
> From: FISHROT1 aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 223 I-6 rebuild
>
> Ok all you hot rodders out there, soupin up yer 460 y-blocks with C-4's
> and
> yer 4bbl's, heres a real question for ya. I'm about to rebuild my 223 6cyl
>
> and want to give the old thing a kick in the pant's. I would be interested
> in
> any input on some things others have tried, that either worked or didn't.
> Everyone's got V-8's, for the few of us out here that don't I'd be
> interested
> in hearin' from ya.
> Erik
> 60 F-100 Custom Cab
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:06:45 -0500
> From: "Terry Jones"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - speedometer cable
>
> I need a Speedo cable for a '60 F-100 and a C-6. Any help will be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks Terry
> 1960 F-100 460 Must.II IFS fleetside
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:38:45 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks

In a message dated 9/20/99 9:38:18 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: Ken Toop
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Door locks

I seem to remember being able to lock the cab doors from inside by pushing
the handles forward on 1950's and earlier trucks. This does nothing in my
'57 F-100. Did the '57 have this door-locking feature? >>

Ken,
My 57 locked by pushing in the opposite direction of opening. I can't
remember which was which.
Glenn in TN
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:08:11 -0400
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks

Help!!! I locked myself in my truck...and I can't get out!

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Fred
hotrod56

RJC988 aol.com wrote:

>
> I seem to remember being able to lock the cab doors from inside by pushing
> the handles forward on 1950's and earlier trucks. This does nothing in my
> '57 F-100. Did the '57 have this door-locking feature? >>
>
> Ken,
> My 57 locked by pushing in the opposite direction of opening. I can't
> remember which was which.
> Glenn in TN

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:27:35 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: 460 V8 Swap

I just checked the FatMan Fabrications web site and they indicate that their
MII is strong enough but you need to install V8 springs out of a 82 - 93 5.0
Mustang. He indicates that the ball joints and tie rod ends are the same
size as the full size fords. Take a look at :

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://super-store.site.yahoo.net/super-store/quesanabifsk.html

Dennis
55F100 w/429 and T Bird clip

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> From: Dan Lee[SMTP:danlee_58 yahoo.com]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 8:21 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 460 V8 Swap
>
> I just installed a Mustang II IFS in my '53. My motor
> was a 351C-4V, now its a 400, but I believe that the
> 460 is too heavy for a MII IFS. You will need a clip
> from a donor that will support a 460.
>
> Dan Lee
> '53 F100
> 400C-4V
>
> > Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 460 V8 Swap
> >
> > In a message dated 99-09-15 05:38:59 EDT, you write:
> >
> >
> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:59:05 EDT
> > From: GEMcC5150 aol.com
> > Subject: FTE Pre61 - Road test
> >
> > I took my 55 F 100 on a 250 mile So Cal Freeway
> > trip over the weekend. I
> > currently have a 223 I6 and a three speed on the
> > tree, thinking of changing
> > to 460 v8 with a C6. Will also change front clip
> > to IFS and the rear end ti
> > a 9" ford. The truck ran well 65 - 70 with no
> > problems. Now to the
> > Question
> > Let me know your thoughts on this change? I been
> > reading this list for
> > about
> > 6 months and I want it input.
> >
> > thanks
> > George
> > 55 F100
> > 68 Cou >>
> >
> > George,
> > I am considering the same engine swap into a '54.
> > Like to hear thoughs from
> > everyone problems facing. I know motor/trans mount
> > changes, drive shaft,
> > etc. I was wondering how much room needed...
> > James
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:40:07 EDT
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks

That's nothing, I locked myself inside a 33 Roadster once. I had to use my
cell phone to call AAA to get out.


Tom
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:00:39 -0400
From: "Frank Mester Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks

And its raining and the windows are open!

Frank Stock '51

Fred g 454 wrote:

> Help!!! I locked myself in my truck...and I can't get out!
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist.
> Fred
> hotrod56
>
> RJC988 aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > I seem to remember being able to lock the cab doors from inside by pushing
> > the handles forward on 1950's and earlier trucks. This does nothing in my
> > '57 F-100. Did the '57 have this door-locking feature? >>
> >
> > Ken,
> > My 57 locked by pushing in the opposite direction of opening. I can't
> > remember which was which.
> > Glenn in TN
>
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:16:01 EDT
From: MilFam3 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: no beer steering adjstment

mel you old dog you! how right you were on no beers improving the adjustment
on my 56 f-100! i thought i'd experiment with a couple of shots of hard
stuff but then i couldn't even find the truck!?! still 56 and lovin it, DAN
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:01:01 MST
From: "Jeff Thomas"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks

Darn it! I got in the truck and locked my keys outside again!! :)
Jeff T '56 FE-100 (390... FE... get it?)


>From: Fred g 454
>Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 57 locks
>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:08:11 -0400
>
>Help!!! I locked myself in my truck...and I can't get out!
>
>Sorry, couldn't resist.
>Fred
>hotrod56
>
>RJC988 aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > I seem to remember being able to lock the cab doors from inside by
>pushing
> > the handles forward on 1950's and earlier trucks. This does nothing in
>my
> > '57 F-100. Did the '57 have this door-locking feature? >>
> >
> > Ken,
> > My 57 locked by pushing in the opposite direction of opening. I can't
> > remember which was which.
> > Glenn in TN
>
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:53:32 -0500
From: lwblumjr juno.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: '66 Rear End

>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:46:00 GMT
>From: "Ford Enthusiast"

> On another note. I have found a 65 F-100 that is smashed up on the
>front
>and was wondering if a 9" rear was standard in this year. I am
>considering
>putting this and the bed onto my '55.

Ford Enthusiast,

The Ford 9 inch rear end was standard under F-100's/F-150's from 1957
until 1982 I believe. (1980 - 1982 or so F-100's had the Ford car lug....

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