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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 6v Solenoid
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
FTE Pre61 - gas tanks
Re: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks
FTE Pre61 - Re; gas tanks
FTE Pre61 - Gas tanks
FTE Pre61 - Way Off
FTE Pre61 - 12v radio question
FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP!
FTE Pre61 - Hoods
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP!
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
FTE Pre61 - Gas tank
FTE Pre61 - gas tanks
Re: FTE Pre61 - Hoods

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 06:51:32 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55
or 56 or am I way off?"

I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the
'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I
seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my
memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side.

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:50:12 -0500
From: "Steve Schnitz"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

i have a F-1 and my gas tank is behind seat
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From: The Neighbors
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:39 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks


>Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55
>or 56 or am I way off?"
>
> I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the
>'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I
>seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my
>memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side.
>
> Don Neighbors
> '54 F250 Named Grover
>
> "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
> innaccesible part of the vehicle."
>
> grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:09:01 -0400
From: "Steve Powell"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker.

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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM
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Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55
or 56 or am I way off?"

I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the
'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I
seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my
memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side.

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:57:16 -0400
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

I believe In-cab tanks were popular till '72.

- -Ted





"Steve Powell" on 09/09/99 07:09:01 AM

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I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker.

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From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM
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Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55
or 56 or am I way off?"












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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:14:35 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 6v Solenoid

STUDJAMES aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 09/08/1999 4:43:13 AM Central Daylight Time,
> owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:
>
> You don't need to change the solonoid. However it is a pretty cheap
> part and you might want to replace it just for piece of mind.
>
> ~Dan >>
>
> What an understatement.
> My old 6v solenoid worked fine, lasted about a year... then left me stranded
> on a dark county road in Texas. Had to call wife to come tow me home, and in
> process burned up clutch on second truck getting it home. A $10 part cost me
> $400 clutch. What a night, ha! I would keep a 12v solenoid handy just in case.
>
> Jim '54 Reb

Just a little 20-20, hindsight, couldn't you have push started it? I'd
like to have a dime for every time I rolled my '57 down a hill, 50% of
the time the 312 I had in it wouldn't crank, and me too cheap (broke) to
buy a new starter.

47 Fred
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:38:35 EDT
From: FISHROT1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

My '60 custom cab has an in cab fuel tank......
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:36:38 -0500
From: Troy McClung
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

I've got a '59 4x4 and it has a cab tank.


At 07:09 AM 9/9/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>[mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of The Neighbors
>Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
>
>Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55
>or 56 or am I way off?"
>
> I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the
>'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I
>seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my
>memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side.
>
> Don Neighbors
> '54 F250 Named Grover
>
> "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
> innaccesible part of the vehicle."
>
> grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:26:46 -0500
From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks

I believe they still had cab tanks well into the 60s. My '58 had one before I
started re-doing everything. My step-dad had a '65 that might have had one
(memories are a little fuzzy - ten yrs ago).

Brian Nyman
Allina Health Systems Provider Support
bnyman allina.com
612-775-1537

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:39:26 -0400
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks

My '68 has an in cab tank and I believe the in cab tanks were true through '72.

- -Ted





"Brian C Nyman" on 09/09/99 10:26:46 AM

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Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks




I believe they still had cab tanks well into the 60s. My '58 had one before I
started re-doing everything. My step-dad had a '65 that might have had one
(memories are a little fuzzy - ten yrs ago).

Brian Nyman
Allina Health Systems Provider Support
bnyman allina.com
612-775-1537

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:55:30 -0700
From: JD Hollingsworth Jr
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re; gas tanks

Scott,
I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that my '55's
tank is under the drivers side floorboard and my '69's is behind the
seat. Hope this helps.
- --
Regards, "Once the pin is pulled and the spoon is
JDH released, Mr. Grenade is no longer our
friend"
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:45:13 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas tanks

I believe 53-55 were all under the left running board, and only the 56s
of that era were in the cab. The filler on the 56 is on the opposite
side also.

Why would they move it?

Speaking of gas tanks, my annual no respose question goes out again,
take 3: Why is the gas tank on just the panel INSIDE the frame? This
positioning means a different tank filler hole position, plus other
differences which I'm sure wouldn't be cost effective unless they had to
move it. Never have heard a logical answer. By the way, attn:
newsbreakers: "because it's safer" is not considered an answer! :}

Paul G.

Muttless, but still have 3 in the family left.
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:49:07 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Way Off

In a message dated 9/9/99 9:47:50 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: Scott
Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks

What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 or 56 or am
I way off?
Scott
>>

Scott,

I believe it was about 1973 until in cab tanks were removed. I still can't
believe anybody ever thought that was a good idea! I have removed mine from
my 57 and have sold it to someone with a 60 that is stock. I am going to
either mount the Lincoln tank in the front of the bed or put another between
the back from rails. I have seen and heard of Izuzu tanks bolt right up. It
looks like a Jeep tank can fit as well. Does anybody know if a tank that has
a fuel pump from a 4 or 6 cyl. will pump enough gas to a 5.0 V8 EFI system?

Glenn in TN
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:50:39 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12v radio question

Technical question: Does a 12volt radio pick up more powerful staions
than a 6 volt radio? Can a 6 volt radio pick up FM signals, or only
those in operation when the radio was made? Will a small radio pick up
weak signals? Should I get into ham radio jokes? Why not?

Sorry...this happens to panel owners once in a while!

Paul Gayda
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:55:20 -0700
From: "Roy Maul"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP!

I'm stumped! I just completed(???) the conversion to a 1-wire alternator on
my '50 F-2. I disconnected the BATT, FIELD, and AMP wires from the old
6-volt regulator. Connected the BATT and AMP wired together at the end
where the regulator was and connected the AMP wire to the alternator. I
replaced the 6-volt coil with a 12-volt coil. Connected the negative post
to the distributor and a ballast resistor to the wire that was connected to
the BAT post on the original 6-volt coil, and I connected the ballast
resistor to the positive post on the 12-volt coil. I changed the 6-volt
starter solenoid to a 12-volt solenoid and wired as the original solenoid
was wired. I replaced the 6-volt battery with a 12-volt battery and connect
the NEG post to ground (on the block) and the POS post to the starter
solenoid.

When I turn on the key my guages respond and I have 12-volts at the coil.
When I press the starter button, no response. If I use a remote starter
button to jump the solenoid it cranks, but no spark.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Roy


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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:23:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: barry mitchell
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Hoods

I've been told there is a diference in hood between
the 56 and 53-55 f100, is this true?

Barry
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:29:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: barry mitchell
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

Guy, I do know that they still had an in cab tank in
76
cause there is one setting in my back yard.

Barry
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:31:57 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

At 06:51 AM 9/9/1999 -0400, The Neighbors wrote:
>Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55
>or 56 or am I way off?"
>
> I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the
>'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I
>seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my
>memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side.

Way, way back (like 1935), the tank was under the bed for 1/2 ton trucks,
but in the cab or something for larger trucks: my cab is a transplant
because I could see where the filler hole was filled in on the cab from the
inside.

Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:35:31 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP!

Everything seems okay except you might try swapping the wires on the coil:
one terminal is common to both the primary and secondary windings of the
coil and should be '+' on a coil designed for negative ground and '-' on a
coil designed for negative ground. The other end of the primary coil is
connected to the distributor. I'm not sure if you get no spark or just a
week spark if you have those terminals mixed up.

I'm not sure what's happening with your starter switch. Will it crank if
you jumper the 's' terminal to the positive battery terminal? If it
doesn't, you should remember "Just because it's new doesn't mean it works."

Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:16:08 -0500
From: "Wolfe, Jim"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks

i had a 1972 f100 that still had a cab tank believe that cab tanks went will
into the late 70's. Only ones that were different were the ones with saddle
tanks that later became popular and were installed at factory.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy McClung [SMTP:troy ja.mountain.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:37 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
>
> I've got a '59 4x4 and it has a cab tank.
>
>
> At 07:09 AM 9/9/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> >[mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of The Neighbors
> >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM
> >To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> >Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks
> >
> >Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55
> >or 56 or am I way off?"
> >
> > I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as
> the
> >'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I
> >seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my
> >memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side.
> >
> > Don Neighbors
> > '54 F250 Named Grover
> >
> > "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
> > innaccesible part of the vehicle."
> >
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:38:29 -0400
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas tank

Is there anyone who is looking for a gas tank to put in their 48-52 Ford
truck? I have some for sale, good shape. The tank I believe is 20 Gal, and
goes behind the seat.

E-mail for more info.

Miguel londono.

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:44:10 -0400
From: "sam fugate"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks

The gas tank for my 51 F1 is on the garage floor!

But I removed it from behind the seat :)

Sam I aM

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 18:40:00 MST
From: "Jeff Thomas"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Hoods

As near as I can tell, yes, but it's a slight difference. The '56 hood has
two carriage bolts about one inch from the rear edge, about 5-6 inches
apart. These hold a brace across the back of the hood. I think that's the
only difference.
By the way... anyone need stock hood hinges in good/very good condition? Let
me know. (I put a reverse-tilt kit on.)

Jeff T 56 F-100
jbt56 ....


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