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To: pre61-list-digest Subject: pre61-list-digest V3 #258 Reply-To: pre61-list Sender: owner-pre61-list-digest Errors-To: owner-pre61-list-digest Precedence: bulk pre61-list-digest Thursday, September 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 258 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 6v Solenoid Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks FTE Pre61 - gas tanks Re: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks FTE Pre61 - Re; gas tanks FTE Pre61 - Gas tanks FTE Pre61 - Way Off FTE Pre61 - 12v radio question FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP! FTE Pre61 - Hoods Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP! RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks FTE Pre61 - Gas tank FTE Pre61 - gas tanks Re: FTE Pre61 - Hoods ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 06:51:32 -0400 From: The Neighbors Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 or 56 or am I way off?" I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the '53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side. Don Neighbors '54 F250 Named Grover "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most innaccesible part of the vehicle." grover == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:50:12 -0500 From: "Steve Schnitz" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks i have a F-1 and my gas tank is behind seat - -----Original Message----- From: The Neighbors To: pre61-list Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:39 AM Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks >Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 >or 56 or am I way off?" > > I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the >'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I >seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my >memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side. > > Don Neighbors > '54 F250 Named Grover > > "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most > innaccesible part of the vehicle." > > grover >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:09:01 -0400 From: "Steve Powell" Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-pre61-list [mailto:owner-pre61-list Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM To: pre61-list Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 or 56 or am I way off?" I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the '53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side. Don Neighbors '54 F250 Named Grover "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most innaccesible part of the vehicle." grover == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:57:16 -0400 From: tfreeman Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks I believe In-cab tanks were popular till '72. - -Ted "Steve Powell" on 09/09/99 07:09:01 AM Please respond to pre61-list To: pre61-list cc: (bcc: Ted Freeman/MURPHY_FAMILY_FARMS) Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-pre61-list [mailto:owner-pre61-list Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM To: pre61-list Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 or 56 or am I way off?" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:14:35 -0400 From: 47Fred Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: 6v Solenoid STUDJAMES > > In a message dated 09/08/1999 4:43:13 AM Central Daylight Time, > owner-pre61-list-digest > > You don't need to change the solonoid. However it is a pretty cheap > part and you might want to replace it just for piece of mind. > > ~Dan >> > > What an understatement. > My old 6v solenoid worked fine, lasted about a year... then left me stranded > on a dark county road in Texas. Had to call wife to come tow me home, and in > process burned up clutch on second truck getting it home. A $10 part cost me > $400 clutch. What a night, ha! I would keep a 12v solenoid handy just in case. > > Jim '54 Reb Just a little 20-20, hindsight, couldn't you have push started it? I'd like to have a dime for every time I rolled my '57 down a hill, 50% of the time the 312 I had in it wouldn't crank, and me too cheap (broke) to buy a new starter. 47 Fred == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:38:35 EDT From: FISHROT1 Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks My '60 custom cab has an in cab fuel tank...... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:36:38 -0500 From: Troy McClung Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks I've got a '59 4x4 and it has a cab tank. At 07:09 AM 9/9/99 -0400, you wrote: >I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pre61-list >[mailto:owner-pre61-list >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM >To: pre61-list >Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks > >Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 >or 56 or am I way off?" > > I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the >'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I >seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my >memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side. > > Don Neighbors > '54 F250 Named Grover > > "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most > innaccesible part of the vehicle." > > grover >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:26:46 -0500 From: "Brian C Nyman" Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks I believe they still had cab tanks well into the 60s. My '58 had one before I started re-doing everything. My step-dad had a '65 that might have had one (memories are a little fuzzy - ten yrs ago). Brian Nyman Allina Health Systems Provider Support bnyman 612-775-1537 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:39:26 -0400 From: tfreeman Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks My '68 has an in cab tank and I believe the in cab tanks were true through '72. - -Ted "Brian C Nyman" on 09/09/99 10:26:46 AM Please respond to pre61-list To: pre61-list cc: (bcc: Ted Freeman/MURPHY_FAMILY_FARMS) Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks I believe they still had cab tanks well into the 60s. My '58 had one before I started re-doing everything. My step-dad had a '65 that might have had one (memories are a little fuzzy - ten yrs ago). Brian Nyman Allina Health Systems Provider Support bnyman 612-775-1537 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:55:30 -0700 From: JD Hollingsworth Jr Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re; gas tanks Scott, I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that my '55's tank is under the drivers side floorboard and my '69's is behind the seat. Hope this helps. - -- Regards, "Once the pin is pulled and the spoon is JDH released, Mr. Grenade is no longer our friend" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:45:13 -0400 From: Paul Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas tanks I believe 53-55 were all under the left running board, and only the 56s of that era were in the cab. The filler on the 56 is on the opposite side also. Why would they move it? Speaking of gas tanks, my annual no respose question goes out again, take 3: Why is the gas tank on just the panel INSIDE the frame? This positioning means a different tank filler hole position, plus other differences which I'm sure wouldn't be cost effective unless they had to move it. Never have heard a logical answer. By the way, attn: newsbreakers: "because it's safer" is not considered an answer! :} Paul G. Muttless, but still have 3 in the family left. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:49:07 EDT From: RJC988 Subject: FTE Pre61 - Way Off In a message dated 9/9/99 9:47:50 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-pre61-list-digest From: Scott Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 or 56 or am I way off? Scott >> Scott, I believe it was about 1973 until in cab tanks were removed. I still can't believe anybody ever thought that was a good idea! I have removed mine from my 57 and have sold it to someone with a 60 that is stock. I am going to either mount the Lincoln tank in the front of the bed or put another between the back from rails. I have seen and heard of Izuzu tanks bolt right up. It looks like a Jeep tank can fit as well. Does anybody know if a tank that has a fuel pump from a 4 or 6 cyl. will pump enough gas to a 5.0 V8 EFI system? Glenn in TN == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:50:39 -0400 From: Paul Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12v radio question Technical question: Does a 12volt radio pick up more powerful staions than a 6 volt radio? Can a 6 volt radio pick up FM signals, or only those in operation when the radio was made? Will a small radio pick up weak signals? Should I get into ham radio jokes? Why not? Sorry...this happens to panel owners once in a while! Paul Gayda == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:55:20 -0700 From: "Roy Maul" Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP! I'm stumped! I just completed(???) the conversion to a 1-wire alternator on my '50 F-2. I disconnected the BATT, FIELD, and AMP wires from the old 6-volt regulator. Connected the BATT and AMP wired together at the end where the regulator was and connected the AMP wire to the alternator. I replaced the 6-volt coil with a 12-volt coil. Connected the negative post to the distributor and a ballast resistor to the wire that was connected to the BAT post on the original 6-volt coil, and I connected the ballast resistor to the positive post on the 12-volt coil. I changed the 6-volt starter solenoid to a 12-volt solenoid and wired as the original solenoid was wired. I replaced the 6-volt battery with a 12-volt battery and connect the NEG post to ground (on the block) and the POS post to the starter solenoid. When I turn on the key my guages respond and I have 12-volts at the coil. When I press the starter button, no response. If I use a remote starter button to jump the solenoid it cranks, but no spark. Can anyone help? Thanks, Roy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: barry mitchell Subject: FTE Pre61 - Hoods I've been told there is a diference in hood between the 56 and 53-55 f100, is this true? Barry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: barry mitchell Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks Guy, I do know that they still had an in cab tank in 76 cause there is one setting in my back yard. Barry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:31:57 -0400 From: "Thomas J. Teixeira" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks At 06:51 AM 9/9/1999 -0400, The Neighbors wrote: >Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 >or 56 or am I way off?" > > I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as the >'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I >seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my >memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side. Way, way back (like 1935), the tank was under the bed for 1/2 ton trucks, but in the cab or something for larger trucks: my cab is a transplant because I could see where the filler hole was filled in on the cab from the inside. Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:35:31 -0400 From: "Thomas J. Teixeira" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion - HELP! Everything seems okay except you might try swapping the wires on the coil: one terminal is common to both the primary and secondary windings of the coil and should be '+' on a coil designed for negative ground and '-' on a coil designed for negative ground. The other end of the primary coil is connected to the distributor. I'm not sure if you get no spark or just a week spark if you have those terminals mixed up. I'm not sure what's happening with your starter switch. Will it crank if you jumper the 's' terminal to the positive battery terminal? If it doesn't, you should remember "Just because it's new doesn't mean it works." Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:16:08 -0500 From: "Wolfe, Jim" Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks i had a 1972 f100 that still had a cab tank believe that cab tanks went will into the late 70's. Only ones that were different were the ones with saddle tanks that later became popular and were installed at factory. > -----Original Message----- > From: Troy McClung [SMTP:troy > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:37 AM > To: pre61-list > Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks > > I've got a '59 4x4 and it has a cab tank. > > > At 07:09 AM 9/9/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I've got a '58 and it's an in-cab tanker. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-pre61-list > >[mailto:owner-pre61-list > >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:52 AM > >To: pre61-list > >Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: gas tanks > > > >Scott wrote: "What year did Ford get rid of the in cab tanks? Was it 55 > >or 56 or am I way off?" > > > > I don't know for certain about the pre '53 trucks, but as far as > the > >'53 to '56 trucks, '56 was the FIRST year for an in-cab fuel tank. I > >seem to remember my '57 had an in-cab tank too. (Glenn, can you jog my > >memory?) My '54's tank is located under the cab on the driver's side. > > > > Don Neighbors > > '54 F250 Named Grover > > > > "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most > > innaccesible part of the vehicle." > > > > grover > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please forward the message to EMAdmin ********************************************************************** == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:38:29 -0400 From: "Miguel....." Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas tank Is there anyone who is looking for a gas tank to put in their 48-52 Ford truck? I have some for sale, good shape. The tank I believe is 20 Gal, and goes behind the seat. E-mail for more info. Miguel londono. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:44:10 -0400 From: "sam fugate" Subject: FTE Pre61 - gas tanks The gas tank for my 51 F1 is on the garage floor! But I removed it from behind the seat :) Sam I aM == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 18:40:00 MST From: "Jeff Thomas" Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Hoods As near as I can tell, yes, but it's a slight difference. The '56 hood has two carriage bolts about one inch from the rear edge, about 5-6 inches apart. These hold a brace across the back of the hood. I think that's the only difference. By the way... anyone need stock hood hinges in good/very good condition? Let me know. (I put a reverse-tilt kit on.) Jeff T 56 F-100 jbt56 To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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