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pre61-list-digest Tuesday, September 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 255



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - wiring diagram for 52-F-1
Re: FTE Pre61 - Bad experence
Re: FTE Pre61 - Bad experence
Re: FTE Pre61 - wiring diagram for 52-F-1
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site pictorial updates
FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion
FTE Pre61 - Upholstery Advice?
Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion
Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:20:11 -0400
From: "Larry Coffman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - wiring diagram for 52-F-1

Does anyone have a digram for the dash and firewall they could e-mail to me?

Thanks in advance,

Larry Coffman
coffman defnet.com

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:45:12 -0500
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Bad experence

WAAAY back in the 80's I was rebuilding my Flathead V8 and ordered a set of
chrome water necks for my engine from some business in California (I don't
want to say any name for I can't remember WHO exactly it was). What I got
were two water necks that looked like they had been buffed a bit then
dropped into the Chrome plating. You could still see the corrosion around
the neck. What got me was that some one thought this was good. (I still have
them somewhere as a reminder) When you picture buying a chrome part in your
head, you almost know what it should look like, even if it is the cheap
plating that will rust in a year, at least it looked good for a week!
Well, I pay attention to who I buy from now, and if a business gives me good
service and no hassles on returns, I stay with them.
Steve

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:48:34 EDT
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Bad experence

I have had such good experiences with people and business I have dealt with
in the past, that it's such a disappointment when this happens. I am
currently building a 33 Plymouth (Mustang parts) and am having great success
so for with parts.

By the way if any one is looking for a 48-52 hood their is one listed in
Ebay. The last time I looked it was only $25.00. I started to buy it just to
have a spare at that price, but I already have two.

Ken: could you update the pictures of my 52 F1 in the pictorial?

Tom Nickolson
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:15:39 -0400
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - wiring diagram for 52-F-1

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From: Larry Coffman
To: pre 61 list
Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 7:20 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - wiring diagram for 52-F-1


> Does anyone have a digram for the dash and firewall they could e-mail to
me?
Larry: I have a 49-51 Ford shop Manual reprint w/52supplement
that I got thru catalogue sources (Obsolete Ford maybe) and it has
small diagrams plus some pictures of harnasses. It also has a large
full truck diagram. YOU have to be able to understand these diagrams
in order to use them correctly, as they do not show connectors and
metal surfaces or run wires together as they are in harnass. Most
diagrams for about any 50's Ford seem to be very similar.
If you are rewiring to stock the easiest way I found was to remove
old harnass, lay on bench, cut off tape and carefully measure each
wire and use new proper color wires to make a copy, retape or bundle
and reinstall. 52 Fords are simply wired, not as hard as you may think.
I could make some copies out of my manual and send them to you
if you e-mail me an address, let me know.
"G" glperry fwi.com

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:11:18 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site pictorial updates

The following have been added to the web site pictorial:


1950 F1
1956 F100
1966 F100
1971 F100
1973 F350 Super Camper Special Ranger
1986 F350 Ambulance
1990 F150 XLT Lariat
1999 F150


Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:47:37 -0700
From: "Roy Maul"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion

I know this has been covered before, but I seem to have lost all the info I
kept on the subject now that I'm ready to tackle the project. I have a
1-wire alternator I want to use. How do I wire it in? Do I need an
external regulator? Do I need to change the starter solenoid? I have a '50
F-2 with the flathead V-8.

Thanks,
Roy


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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 17:54:47 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Upholstery Advice?

The seat in my 50 is in sad sad shape. I've seen kits for sale for
covering the seats, and that's a job I think I can handle. However those
kits don't come with the foam/stuffing/whatever you call it. My stuffing
is so bad it falls out when I sit down, gets airborne at high speeds,
sticks to everything. Does anybody know about this stuff? Where can I get
it, what do I ask for, and how is this stuff to work with?

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Expecting "completion" on or by 8/29/00.
1992 Mustang --The Clutch From HELL!

Visit my Bonus Built 48-52 F Series Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~dwentz
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:43:11 -0400
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion

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From: Roy Maul
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Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 4:47 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion
Roy, If you are all original and it works, why change it ?
I assume you are using a GM alternator as that's only kind I
know of that's one-wire. Use an internal regulator, that drops that
from system, but you'll have to change it to a "self-exciting" type
so you won't need power to activate it. The problem I see is
finding mount brackets for it. I believe you can change your
starter selonoid to a later 12 volt no prob., just get right number
of terminals. Starter should be OK because it has heavier
wire for 6-volt which is good for 12. All the wires are also
bigger for 6-volt so no prob. there. Change all Bulbs, switches
should be OK. Biggest Problem is the gauges, which they
make resistors for, but there not great. Patrick's (chevy business sorry)
has these and instructions for old chevy's on back of his catalog.
should be about the same. I have his address if you can't find him
in links, try Stovebolt page on internet.
Oh, yes! the 10 gauge wire off alt. just goes over to the selonoid
Posi-cable from battery, that's how it charges. Hope this helps.
Changing from Pos. grnd to Neg. makes no difference, just change
the battery cables around. "G" glperry fwi.com


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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:01:27 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt conversion

At 08:43 PM 9/6/1999 -0400, Gary L. Perry wrote:
> Roy, If you are all original and it works, why change it ?
>I assume you are using a GM alternator as that's only kind I
>know of that's one-wire. Use an internal regulator, that drops that
>from system, but you'll have to change it to a "self-exciting" type
>so you won't need power to activate it.

I think some Ford alternators have an internal regulator, but use more than
one wire. In any case, the GM 'one-wire' alternators already HAVE an
internal regulator.

>The problem I see is
>finding mount brackets for it.

Most of the Flathead suppliers have brackets for GM alternators.


>Patrick's (chevy business sorry)
>has these and instructions for old chevy's on back of his catalog.

Patrick's also has a Flathead V8 catalog so no need to apologize. :-)

> Oh, yes! the 10 gauge wire off alt. just goes over to the selonoid
>Posi-cable from battery, that's how it charges.

That's one way, but then you don't get a working ammeter gauge. You can
also move the 'field' wire on your voltage regulator directly under the
'battery' terminal on the voltage regulator and your ammeter will work
properly.

>Hope this helps.
>Changing from Pos. grnd to Neg. makes no difference, just change
>the battery cables around.

I believe you should swap the wires on your coil around, and you will also
have to swap the wires on your ammeter to get the proper sense of charging
and discharging.

There's a technical article on http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/6to12to6/ by
Steve Delanty that covers the conversion and explains how to use a voltage
regulator instead of just a resistor for the gauges.

Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html

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