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pre61-list-digest Wednesday, September 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 248



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: ignition timing
FTE Pre61 - knowwhatImean?
FTE Pre61 - 59 F-100 4x4
RE: FTE Pre61 - Brake Systems
Re: FTE Pre61 - Highway speed
FTE Pre61 - Bolt info
FTE Pre61 - Fwd: (No Subject)
Re: FTE Pre61 - Highway speed
Re: FTE Pre61 - Highway speed
FTE Pre61 - Re: Highway speed
FTE Pre61 - 51 parts

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:39:16 MST
From: "Jeff Thomas"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: ignition timing

Hi, Dan, as far as timing for your 302, you would do best to pick up a
Chiltons/Clymers/Haynes shop manual. Those have all of the specs for your
engine. A nine-inch will not have a bolt-on rear cover. If you look under
the back of your truck, you will see a smooth cover if it's a 9. If you see
bolts around the differential pumpkin, you may have the stock rear. There
are more details to positively identify rears. Check a local Barnes & Noble
or other big bookstore for reference books. Good luck, and have fun!
Jeff T 56 (390)F-100


>From: MilFam3 aol.com
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>Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: ignition timing
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:44:26 EDT
>
>to whom it may concern, my 56 f-100 has a stock 302 with 2 barrel carb,
>electronic
>ignition. does someone out there know what the correct timing should be set
>at to
>get the most preformance out of it? the only thing eles i know was it came
>out of a
>71 mustang.also i hear you guys speak alot about 9 inch rearends.can
>someone
>explain how to determine what to look for to see if i also have one? i hope
>that wasn't
>a dumb question?! and to all you great people who've already answered many
>of
>my other questions i thank you all!! DAN
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: FTE Pre61 - knowwhatImean?

notice but most, especially those who had contact with
the old trucks
look
with admiration. Y'all know what I mean, right? Mike
in Indy.

Yeah, Mike. We know what you mean. My truck isn't
blazing fast and it looks like crap but people still
turn their heads and ask questions wherever I go.
It's the exhaust that gets their attention and the
classic lines (even with all that needed bodywork)
that keeps their attention.

Thanks for the smile,
Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87
289 pinto
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:40:46 -0500
From: Troy McClung
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 59 F-100 4x4

Does anyone know of a disc brake conversion for my 59 F-100 4x4?
Troy

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:00:28 -0500
From: Mike Morton
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Brake Systems

Dusty,
I've got a 9 inch with discs in the back and disc brakes on the stock
spindles in the front. I can't say how well it will work as I am still
working on the truck as I get time.
I have talked to several other guys that did similiar setups and they were
all happy with how their's stopped. I drove one without the power and didn't
even know it till we got back to the house.
Mike,
55 F100/460
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. D. Dodge [SMTP:dustymtn earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 5:05 PM
> To: Ford Trucks Email
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Brake Systems
>
> Mike - do you have stock drum brakes with your new dual reservoir master
>
> cylinder? Does your truck stop well enough and easily enough that a
> power booster isn't needed? I'd really like to convert to a dual master
> cylinder on my '55 100 but wasn't sure if I should consider a booster in
> addition to the new master to get it to stop
> quickly when necessary without having to stand on the pedal with both
> feet. Thanks for your help!
>
> Dusty
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:42:29 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Highway speed

>
> I took my 52 F-2 out on a highway this weekend after primarily driving on the
>
> city streets here in Indianapolis. My Flathead V8 runs really well but
> seemed most comfortable running around 45. I pushed it up to 50 mph but the
> I felt better letting off the gas to around 45. Will faster highway
> driving harm the engine?


That's your rear end slowing you down. With 3.91 gears your top speed will be
pretty low, and your engine RPM's will be quite high. I tried keeping up with
freeway traffic back when I had the flathead in my 50 and it wasn't very
fun--60 mph at about 3500 rpm. With the oiling system being what it is on
those things I decided I'd stick to surface streets. The other problem with
driving a stock truck on the freeway is, as you pointed out, the bias ply
tires. Even with radials I often felt like a strong wind could blow me across
2 lanes. Then if you've got the slightest big of slop in your suspension you
start having to chase your front wheels around with the steering wheel (did
that makes sense? If you've done it you know what I mean). And suppose you
have to slam on the brakes all of a sudden! I've done it and I'm lucky to be
alive.

~Dan





1950 F1 351C--Edelbrock Manifold #2750 please.
1992 Mustang --The Clutch From HELL!
1965 Mustang--Becoming less likely by the day.

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:43:31 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bolt info

I might possibly do another chassis switch on my panel; the majority of
the body bolts are, as in the pickup, through the wooden floor/bed.
I would like to avoid tearing up the new carpet which is glued to this
wood, which means that I would have to undo the bolts from the bottom
only.
Does anyone have any good ideas as to how I can do this without tearing
up the threads? I have 2 decent ideas, but I wanted your opinions.
These bolts are not carriage bolts, of course.

Paul G.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:18:03 -0700
From: "Erik Matthew Anton"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fwd: (No Subject)


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DATE: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:41:20
From: "Erik Matthew Anton"
To: "pre61-list-digest"

Just a thank you note to the contributors of this list. I am in the middle of restoring a 56 F-100 and as the result of this sight I have:
-learned how to adjust my steering box
-learned more about setting my drivetrain angles
-went back to using argon shielding gas
and regular wire on my mig welder (what
a difference)
-will probably use EZ wiring when I get to electrical work
-decided to buy a roof for my truck instead of patching holes at front
- probably other things I'm not remembering
Thanks again, Erik Anton
If anyone is interested , I know of 2 restorable 56 F-100's in Maryland, both are c***y powered. Also , If you are near sotheastern Pa. , I found a salvage yard with many 40's, 50's & 60's Ford trucks.e-mail me at (antone ccnmail.com) if you want to know more.
Erik 56 f-100 390 & 4-speed overdrive


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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:57:56 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Highway speed

At 11:42 AM 8/31/1999 -0700, Dan Wentz wrote:
>
>>
>> I took my 52 F-2 out on a highway this weekend after primarily driving
on the
>>
>> city streets here in Indianapolis. My Flathead V8 runs really well but
>> seemed most comfortable running around 45. I pushed it up to 50 mph but the
>> I felt better letting off the gas to around 45. Will faster highway
>> driving harm the engine?
>
>
>That's your rear end slowing you down. With 3.91 gears your top speed will be
>pretty low, and your engine RPM's will be quite high.

I've got 3.55 gears in my Flathead and 45 to 50 seems the most comfortable
speed. Engine bolt-ons (dual exhaust and carburetors) did help the top-end
and slower divided highways (55 to 60) don't seem quite as bad, but it
still isn't a vehicle for the fast lane. I've just put on radials instead
of bias-ply tires, but haven't driven around that much yet. These are
215/70R16 and are only a little wider than the 6.00-16's that were stock.
Steering effort isn't noticably different, but I was hoping that the
radials would drive better at 65 to 70. I'm not sure how to describe how it
feels now, but it does seem like it's something in the front suspension
that just isn't set up for higher speed. Note that I've got the stock
transverse spring and solid axle and a 1939 steering box. I don't have
anything like a Panhard bar.

Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:24:31 -0700
From: "cc"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Highway speed

Hi. I have a 56 f-100 longbed that my dad bought new and I restored. He said
that the truck drove badly when he first bought it but a technician from
Ford Motor Company told him to put 15" tires on it and it made a world of
difference in the handling. As per the hard running, mine will cruse at
65-70 all day with no problem with the original 272 engine.

David
Original 56 longbed


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From: Thomas J. Teixeira
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Highway speed


>At 11:42 AM 8/31/1999 -0700, Dan Wentz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I took my 52 F-2 out on a highway this weekend after primarily driving
>on the
>>>
>>> city streets here in Indianapolis. My Flathead V8 runs really well but
>>> seemed most comfortable running around 45. I pushed it up to 50 mph but
the
>>> I felt better letting off the gas to around 45. Will faster
highway
>>> driving harm the engine?

>

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:53:25 EDT
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Highway speed

I have done every thing possible to my old Flathead engine, but I did not
change the suspension except for mono-leaf springs. I feel safe and
comfortable in the mid 60's range. I am having a problem with the play in the
steering. I rebuilt the original box but still have 1/8 turn play in the
wheel and that causes a constant steering adjustment at slower speeds and
especially when I must stop quick. Is this normal?

By the way, I still have a great time driving around.

Tom Nickolson
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 51 parts

Just got an email from a guy who is parting out a 1951 F2. I think
that there was someone looking for hub-caps on the list. Anyways,
email me OFFLIST for more details. wm_69 ....

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