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pre61-list-digest Friday, August 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 243



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - It runs!!
Re: FTE Pre61 - It runs!!
FTE Pre61 - Tubelss Rims for 48-52 F4 - F6
FTE Pre61 - Re: Windshield Leaks
FTE Pre61 - EZ wire harness
FTE Pre61 - brake systems
FTE Pre61 - winter storage
FTE Pre61 - More questions for the group
FTE Pre61 - More questions
Re: FTE Pre61 - winter storage
FTE Pre61 - styleside bed & idiot lights

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:01:42 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - It runs!!

> i have a 48 flathead and they tell me i
> have a cyc not firing. they did a compression check and said one cyc had no
> comp. said i probally had a hole in piston. it keeps back firing and it blew
> the dip sstick out and the oil cap off thanks for your help
>

Steve, before you get to excited and think you got a neat ashtray in
there, why not pop off then intake manifold so you can see the valve
stems. Roll the engine and check to see if the vales are all moving,
backfiring and no compression, to me, means most likely a stuck open
intake, or, less likely, bent shut exhaust valve. After you check the
valves, which is fairly easy in comparison to many things, and rule out
a problem there, then you can try pulling the head to see what's up.

47Fred
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:02:49 -0500
From: "Steve Schnitz"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - It runs!!

thanks will try that. dont really have 2500.00 for engine rebuld now
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From: 47Fred
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Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - It runs!!


>
>
>> i have a 48 flathead and they tell me i
>> have a cyc not firing. they did a compression check and said one cyc had
no
>> comp. said i probally had a hole in piston. it keeps back firing and it
blew
>> the dip sstick out and the oil cap off thanks for your help
>>
>
> Steve, before you get to excited and think you got a neat ashtray in
>there, why not pop off then intake manifold so you can see the valve
>stems. Roll the engine and check to see if the vales are all moving,
>backfiring and no compression, to me, means most likely a stuck open
>intake, or, less likely, bent shut exhaust valve. After you check the
>valves, which is fairly easy in comparison to many things, and rule out
>a problem there, then you can try pulling the head to see what's up.
>
> 47Fred
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:59:16 -0700
From: "R. R. Gehres"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tubelss Rims for 48-52 F4 - F6

Recently had a look at a super 1949 F4. The owner had completed a "from
the ground up" rebuild with modern drive train, and had 19" tires on
tubeless steel rims. One of his friends at the swap meet told me that
the rims were from an "early" Ford chassis motor home, and bolted right
on. He did not know what year, though, and so far I have been unable to
find a source. Any ideas out there? I am in the process of a similar
"from the ground up" redo, and would certainly like to get away from the
very unsafe split rims. Also would be interested in information
regarding the best source on a "looks like original" but is a modern
version of a radio/stereo for this truck.
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:00:45 -0700
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Windshield Leaks

47Fred wrote, in part:

> and silicone, over
> time, was acidic and and would cause the metal of the body to rust, sure
> enough, the lip was rusted almost thru. Silicone does resist sunlight
> better than urethane, but he recommended only urethane sealer under the
> glass or rubber.

Urethane sets up awfully hard, and is very tough to work with afterward. If you
ever plan to get the window out again, plan on distroying something, most likely
the rubber. Modern windshields are glued in with urethane, but this is because
the window becomes a structural part of the body.

There are two different silicone designs, and each sets up due to a different
reason.
One type "outgasses" acidic acid. This is the type that smells a bit like
vinegar when you use it.

The other cures due to the absorption of moisture. This is a non-acidic type,
and is usually used in the electronics industry, as the other type with acid is
a real no-no when it comes to copper.
A good example is Dow Corning #3145, though I'm sure there are commercially
available ones out there. I'll bet Steve Delanty knows off the top of his
head. Steve?

- -Marv-
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:25:01 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - EZ wire harness

Chalk up another 2 votes for the EZ harness; price is right, and I have
installed 2 of them since April...the only odd thing about them is that
the radio key-on wire doesn't work in accessory position, so you might
want to substitute another for this one if, like me, you sometimes like
to turn on the radio while parked and waiting on the wife to finish up
shopping.

Paul G.
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
Subject: FTE Pre61 - brake systems

I have a 56 and I would like to get the master cylinder and booster unit
off the firewall and under the cab. Other than the high priced units the
parts houses, is there one that will bolt on with little or no
modifications. Have heard a Corvette will work, is this true and are
their others??

Thanks in advance

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:56:20 EDT
From: MilFam3 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - winter storage

does anyone out there just drive there classics on sunny days only and keep
them
inside stored in the winter?i was wondering about storing over the winter but
being
sure it'll be ready in spring. i heard once where someone would fire it up
once in a
while and let it run for awhile ( idling) but engine became clogged with
sludge.
anyone out there who could advise me on storing for a few months safetly?any
advise would be appreciated!! thanks, dan milfam3 aol.com




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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:29:44 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - More questions for the group

FTEers,

1.) I have decided to call a truce on purging more wires from the Lincoln
harness. There are more wires gone than left, but there is still a mess of
spaghetti in my cab. I plan to try and plug in what I can decipher to go
together, plug n a battery, and see what happens. Is this a prudent plan or
am I inviting a fire to happen? Also I noticed that the original F-100
harness did not have a fuse panel (or any fuse anywhere that I could find).

2.) This was discussed some time back, but I am nearing the start of the
engine, so here goes. What is the best preparation for starting a motor that
has been sitting for over a year? I remember somebody suggesting removing the
distributor and spinning the oil pump. Will this lose my timing position (if
I remember to mark the rotor location and put it back in the same place? What
am I looking for to spin?

3.) There appears to be some powder coating on the brake master cylinder and
booster that is peeling off (Lincoln). What might take it the rest of the way
off so I can repaint these? If the powder coating came off because of leaking
brake fluid, what chance does paint have?

4.) What is a good position for installing a new brake pedal? If I put the
Lincoln's petal assembly where the original was, the petal will be about 8"
from the floorboard.

5.) This question might be better suited for another list! There aren't many
stylesides in this room. Has anybody seen or made the wooden supports that
fit between the frame and bed of 57 - 60 stylesides (stepsides may have the
same supports, but I haven't seen any in catalogs)?

I really wanted to have this thing going before Labor Day. Oh well, there's
always Pigeon Forge next year!

Glenn in TN
a 57 F-100 with an identity crisis!
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:35:18 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - More questions

FTEers,

Just tell me if this is getting too much!

Has anybody used a product called Martex? It is supposed to be better than
standard "bondo". I have many "imperfections" to work out. I have heard that
no fillers will last over 5 or 6 years; and again, if it is done right, it
will last forever. What is the "scoop" on this one?

I have always heard that it is best to go down to bare metal before priming
and painting, but is there a good way to paint over old paint and make it
last and look presentable?

Glenn in TN
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:41:14 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - winter storage

At 08:56 PM 8/26/1999 -0400, MilFam3 aol.com wrote:

>anyone out there who could advise me on storing for a few months safetly?any
>advise would be appreciated!! thanks, dan milfam3 aol.com

I stored mine last year under a car cover outside (actually used one sized
for a late model Ford Explorer -- the front fits pretty good but very loose
over the bed). I changed the oil, made sure the antifreeze was fresh (I had
been chasing a coolant leak so this just involved topping off with 100%
antifreeze). I ended up forgetting to add gas stabilizer. I also have some
sort of leak if the gas tank is more than 7/8 full, but it's better to
store with a full tank to prevent rust. I also disconnected the positive
battery cable.

In the spring, my only problem starting up was forgetting that I had
loosened the battery cable and not just used the quick disconnect.

It's actually not a good idea to let it run unless you're going to get the
engine hot enough to get all the condensation back out of the oil and
exhaust. This is one of the main reasons why driving less than 10 miles at
a time is counted as 'severe service', even in new cars. You're better off
letting it set instead of running it for just a few minutes.
Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:31:16 -0500
From: "Terry Jones"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - styleside bed & idiot lights

Could some one tell me if a 1960 styleside bed is the same as a 1961 and if
it is how many years did Ford use this bed.

I installed a Ron Francis wiring harness in my '60 F-100 and I would
like to use the idiot lights in conjunction with gauges, but I can't figure
out how to wire them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Terry Jones....

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