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pre61-list-digest Tuesday, August 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 226



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Good To Hear It!!!
Re: FTE Pre61 - Gloveboxes plus
FTE Pre61 - Tie Downs
[none]
Re: FTE Pre61 - full flow oil kit, AMSOIL
FTE Pre61 - hubcap letters
FTE Pre61 - Re: wiring for column
Re: FTE Pre61 - Oiling problems and heaters
FTE Pre61 - RE:
[none]
Re: FTE Pre61 - Old Fords on TV
Re: FTE Pre61 - Old Fords on TV
FTE Pre61 - Firewall Cover

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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 07:09:39 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Good To Hear It!!!

I'm glad to hear Old Betsy's on the road again!!! Now that Grover is
back on the road, maybe Grover and Betsy should get together some time.
Of course, Grover's still kind of disreputable looking...
By the way, everybody: As some of you know, I converted to 12 volts on
Grover some time back, using a spare Ford alternator I had amongst my
spare parts. That alternator, which I had gotten with a 390 I bought
several years ago, failed on the first good test drive I took Grover on
(Although I got several months service out of it last year), but was
easily replaced for less than $35.00. It makes me VERY glad I didn't opt
for a GM single wire alternator!
- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
inaccessible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 08:23:33 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Gloveboxes plus

>
> Just got back from a week trip to the Sierras in the 57 F100 - no trouble
> from the Fordomatic although I could use a radiator shroud on those hot
> upgrades. She was able to keep up with traffic most of the time, except on
> the bay area freeways and on hiway 17 from Santa Cruz. When the sign says a
> 45 curve, better not be going faster.
>
> For you 57-60 fans, there were still quite a few out there earning a living.

I was in the Burkley / San Francisco area for a few days in June, and
saw a '57 still being used as a contractor's truck, pipe racks and all,
in the Pier 33 area, a '58 in a lumberyard, (well beat up) and a few
other years on the road. Most of the older vehicles I saw were not
restored, just running as built, quite a change from the East coast
where almost all the older vehicles you see are restored, and are
usually kept well covered up.

47Fred
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:18:22 EDT
From: My59f100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tie Downs

I have tie downs on my 59 and I also asumed they were installed by the owner.
I was told my truck came from a Ca. grape farm. Does anyone have a picture
they can scan to me so I could compare I never heard of this. I left the tie
downs on because I liked them and I didn't want to weld up the holes and
distort anything.
MY59F100
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:34:53 -0700
From: "Tillman, John"
Subject: [none]

I am looking for a good right front fender and tail gate for my 54' F100.
Does anyone have any leads on one?

John Tillman (jt)
Test engineer, Catalytica Combustion Systems
(650) 940-6216

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:25:38 EDT
From: Filzdad aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - full flow oil kit, AMSOIL

A company I know about is ASMOIL, on the net (forget the address). They offer both single bypass and dual bypass systems that, using a modified screw-on fitting, go right on the old oil filter housing. Whereas a normal screw-on filter filters out down to ~8-10 microns, these sytems go down to .5 microns. According to data I've seen most damage and wear is caused by particles in the 3-5 micron range. A complete dual bypass system is something like $150.

No, I don't work for the company! It just makes sense to me. Hope it helps.

Matt
'49 F-1 "Toulouse"
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:56:35 -0400
From: "Sheldon Rier"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - hubcap letters

Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 23:13:33 -0400
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - It is Finished!

> This brings me to a question I asked earlier and got no response: What >is
the best way to paint the FORD letters on the stainless hub caps? Is
>there any prep needed to the stainless?

Congrats on the truck!!!
I run a sign shop & suggest that vinyl letters are the best way to go
you will get great adhesion, nice sharp edges & 70+ colours to choose from

make sure that you ask for "2 mil cast vinyl" as it has higher gloss &
adhesion

take your hub cap down to your local sign shop & they will trace the indents
on the hubcap, scan in the tracing & clean up the file to run on their
cutter - this also works good for tailgates etc

if you are handy & patient you can also buy some material & hand cut them as
you only have 16 letters to do

wipe the hub cap off with isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol before applying & it
will last forever

Sheldon Rier

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:59:33 EDT
From: Gunpro100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: wiring for column

Flathead,

I did pretty much the same thing with my 54 F-100 although it was a different
column. I had 6 wires coming off the column. 1 Y, 1 R, 1 W, 1 B, and 2
Green. The Blue was the source to the ignition key. The yellow was the left
turn signal, white was the right turn signal, red the neutral safety and the
2 green were to the brake lights. I don't know if they are the same color
codes or not, but the easy way to test which is which is with a voltmeter or
lamp tester.
Hope this helps at least a little. I have a 69 f-1 with close to the same
wire colors if you need me to look at those I would be happy to.

Kevin
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:37:48 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Oiling problems and heaters

> Shane, your heater motor should have 2 wires, one to the ground, the
>other to the switch. As for the apparent reverse airflow, hmmmm....
>Since I didn't have any trouble with the motor running backwards when I
>did my 12 volt conversion, I don't think reversing the wires will fix
>the problem, or I'd suggest it.
>--
>Don Neighbors

I missed the origional post on this, but here's some thoughts...

If the motor has field windings, then reversing the polarity
on the leads will do nothing... motor still runs the same direction.
If the motor has permanent magnet fields, then reversing the leads
will reverse the direction of the motor.

I dunno which type of motor Ford used for blowers. I would guess
wound-field type, but they might be Per-Mag. It doesn't cost anything
to swap the motor leads and see if it turns the right way or not.

If it's a wound-field type and it really does turn the wrong direction,
it can be reversed by opening up the motor and swapping the polarity
of the field leads with respect to the armature. Or you can swap the
polarity of the armature with respect to the fields...
Perhaps someone already had it apart to do "maintenance" and accidently
swapped a pair of leads ?

Steve Delanty
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:48:19 -0400
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE:

You can get a new tail gate from Macs...

Miguel



> I am looking for a good right front fender and tail gate for my 54' F100.
>Does anyone have any leads on one?
>
>John Tillman (jt)
>Test engineer, Catalytica Combustion Systems
>(650) 940-6216
>
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:49:43 -0400
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: [none]

Queremos contarles que hoy revivio el Flathead, sono mejor que una sinfonia,
sono y resono de lo lindo, trono y relampeago como un thunder storm, y
despues runruneo parejito como una abejita. Hasta que se le acabaron las
pilas. Pero como todo el mundo aplaudeo nos hizo descorchar. Va ha ser el
alma de un Highboy.


Miguel Londono.

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:59:38 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Old Fords on TV

In a message dated 8/8/1999 11:22:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
astauffe oak.kcsd.k12.pa.us writes:

> This winter when the list was slow we started a thread on Fords on TV
> and movies. Our local cable finally got us Nicholodian's TV Land.
> Sanford and Son is on and Fred's truck is a '51 or '52 as the grille is
> easily seen at the opening of the show.
>
Abe -
This question (Sanford, '51 or '52?) is just dying to be answered! If
you're watching again...
'51 standard cab has a single spear on the side of the hood, no round Ford
emblem.
'51 has the V8 symbol on the panel below the front of the hood (if its a V8).
If it's a 6, that panel is clean (isnt' it? - not sure).
'51 hood emblem on the front has FORD on it.
'52 standard cab has a spear with a round Ford emblem toward the front.
'52 has FORD in individual letters on the panel below the front of the hood.
'52 has the V8 (if so equipped) on the emblem on the front of the hood. If
its a 6, it has an oblong shape in the middle which could be mistaken for an
'8' from a quick look.
If its a Five Star Extra cab, I can't describe the differences between
the hood side spears. The other differences are the same.
We're counting on you!
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:46:34 PDT
From: "Walter O'Riley"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Old Fords on TV

The truck is a 51.


>From: JRFiero aol.com
>Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Old Fords on TV
>Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:59:38 EDT
>
>In a message dated 8/8/1999 11:22:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>astauffe oak.kcsd.k12.pa.us writes:
>
> > This winter when the list was slow we started a thread on Fords on TV
> > and movies. Our local cable finally got us Nicholodian's TV Land.
> > Sanford and Son is on and Fred's truck is a '51 or '52 as the grille is
> > easily seen at the opening of the show.
> >
>Abe -
> This question (Sanford, '51 or '52?) is just dying to be answered! If
>you're watching again...
>'51 standard cab has a single spear on the side of the hood, no round Ford
>emblem.
>'51 has the V8 symbol on the panel below the front of the hood (if its a
>V8).
> If it's a 6, that panel is clean (isnt' it? - not sure).
>'51 hood emblem on the front has FORD on it.
>'52 standard cab has a spear with a round Ford emblem toward the front.
>'52 has FORD in individual letters on the panel below the front of the
>hood.
>'52 has the V8 (if so equipped) on the emblem on the front of the hood. If
>its a 6, it has an oblong shape in the middle which could be mistaken for
>an
>'8' from a quick look.
> If its a Five Star Extra cab, I can't describe the differences between
>the hood side spears. The other differences are the same.
> We're counting on you!
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:46:41 EDT
From: FRD56F100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Firewall Cover

Does anybody know who sells the best looking firewall cover for my 56 F100?
I am trying to clean the engine compartment of my truck and will like to have....

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