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pre61-list-digest Monday, July 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 204



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - It's ALIVE!!!!!!!
FTE Pre61 - RE: It's ALIVE!!!!!!!
FTE Pre61 - Re: POR-15
FTE Pre61 - 59' F-250 QUESTIONS
FTE Pre61 - Fw: 1955 F-350
FTE Pre61 - Hood alignment
FTE Pre61 - Wiring
FTE Pre61 - Glove Box Door
FTE Pre61 - re: It's ALIVE!!!!!!!
Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings
Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE Pre61 - updated pictures
FTE Pre61 - 272 heads vs 292 heads

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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:47:03 -0500
From: "Byron Rosbrugh"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - It's ALIVE!!!!!!!

Don, Congradulations, I look forward to the same gratifying sound one of
these days. My Y-Block is a 272, had to drive the pistons out with a sledge
and bar, resleeve two of them, and have completed a total rebuild. Would
love to hear it run, but patience must rule. Just ready to set it back into
the recently coated frame in the next few weeks.
- -----Original Message-----
From: The Neighbors
To: FTE Pre-61 List ; FTE Core

Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 11:18 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - It's ALIVE!!!!!!!


>I did it!! I got that 239 Y-block I've been messing with so long to
>start and run today!! WOOHOO!!! It was getting dark by the time I got it
>started, so adjusting the valves will have to wait, but by the sound of
>that engine, I don't have much adjusting to do.
> The megalopolis of Noth Middletown was treated to the sight of me
>dancing around my truck tonight! They'll think it's some weird Ford
>Truck Enthusiasts rite or something..... :-)
>--
>Don Neighbors
> '54 F250 Named Grover
>
> "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
> innaccesible part of the vehicle."
>
> grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:17:59 -0500
From: "Steve Hansen"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: It's ALIVE!!!!!!!

>>The megalopolis of Noth Middletown was treated to the sight of me
>>dancing around my truck tonight! They'll think it's some weird Ford
>>Truck Enthusiasts rite or something..... :-)

IT IS!!

Another rite is to make 14 trips out to the driveway or garage in a 1 hour
period to admire; 1) A brand new shiny piece on your truck (bumpers, wheels
and tires, new paint job). 2) a major milestone in your trucks life, the
just completed engine, or replacement rear end sitting there so pretty..

Steve
92-F250
50-F-1

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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:20:38 -0500
From: "Steve Hansen"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: POR-15

>> A note on using POR-15- be careful and not get it on your hands, it is
>> extremely hard to remove. I painted my truck frame, the inside of the
>> fenders and the underneath of the cab, didn't use any gloves. When I
>> finished, I had it all over my hands. I washed my hands with several
types
>> of soaps, gas, thinner, hand cleaner, etc,. Nothing was completely
>> effective. It took me two or three days to finally get rid of it.

Ahhh, But did your hands rust? I wish I had known about it when I first
started my frame.

Steve
92-F250
50-F-1



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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 02:45:56 -0700
From: "Tammy Johnson"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 59' F-250 QUESTIONS

I RECENTLY AQUIRED THIS TRUCK AND NEED INFO.IN SEVERAL AREAS.ARE
REPLACEMENT FRONT/REAR SPRINGS AVAILABLE?IT IS V-8,292 C.I..ANY ADVICE ON
ELECTRONIC IGNITION CHANGEOVER?ADDING POWER STEERING/POWER BRAKES?INSTEAD OF
P.-S.,ANY LOW-BUCK SOLUTIONS TO IMPROVE HANDLING?WHERE CAN I LOCATE AN
ORIGINAL RADIO?SHOULD I GET RID OF THE OPTIONAL O.E. 17"WHEELS THAT I
REMOVED,OR ARE THEY DESIREABLE ?I LOVE THIS TRUCK,BUT REALISTICALLY,-IS THIS
A GOOD TRUCK,OR A LEMON?IT'S MY DRIVER,NOT A SHOW VEHICLE,SO COLLECTIBILITY
IS UNIMPORTANT.IJUST WANT TO KNOW IS IT A GOOD TRUCK?STEVE.


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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:56:03 +0200
From: "Mike Christmann"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fw: 1955 F-350

- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Mike Christmann
An: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ford-trucks.com/
Datum: Sonntag, 18. Juli 1999 19:55
Betreff: 1955 F-350


>Hi, dear fellow enthusiasts,
>
>I need HELP,HELP,HELP!!!!!!
>
>Few weeks ago, I found a 1955 F-350, that needs a whole lot of restoring,
as
>it has been sitting for more or less 17 years outside in the rain (most
>common type of weather in Luxembourg!).
>As old pick-ups are extremely rare in Europe, I can't get any information
on
>the subject. Surfing the internet only brought me to a lot of pictures and
>info on the F-100, but Ican't find anything on the F-350.
>Now, I have the following questions:
>Is the F-350 worth restoring or is it not considered as a collectable?
>Are the body dimensions the same as those of the F-100 (exept the chassis,
>which seems to be longer on the F-350)? Can I fit F-100 spare body parts to
>the F-350?
>Did the F-350 come with a factory fit bed, or was it "nude", so that
>customers could customize it to their own needs?
> Is it possible to get the exact body dimensions of both the F-100 and the
>F-350?
>My truck is equipped with a 6 cylinder engine (stock). I've been told it
was
>later fitted into the Mustang. Is that true? How much power has it got?
>
>All these questions may seem ridiculous to some, but as I wrote,
information
>is extremely hard to find in Luxembourg. Even Ford dealers don't know
>anything about the older US-trucks!
>
>Please answer as fast as you can, because I need to know these things
before
>I start work on the truck.
>
>Thanks a lot , yours sincerely,
>
>Mike Christmann
>Luxembourg, Europe
>
>

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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:10:47 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Hood alignment

Speaking of this subject, I am today trying to align a new front clip on
my panel. The clip contains 2 fibreglass fenders; these must be real
bad fenders, because they are about an inch too short, front to rear.
The hood on the truck is perfect...the old clip (original) fenders
aligned perfectly. This clip's fenders, if you align the front edge
with the hood, the bolt holes show through at the sides!
Yes, the hood is not too far up, but is in original perfect factory
alignment.
My point: Does anyone have any recommendations for real nice fitting
front fenders,,,or,,,are they all pretty sad?

Paul Gayda
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:17:05 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Wiring

I have now wired 4 F100s in the past 2 years, and, speaking as a
backyard mechanic only, I have found that an excellent kit/value,
etc...to be:

EZ wiring's 195 dollar kit. All the wires are black, with circuit names
printed in little white letters . I like the fact they are all black,
and, with the name there, you are sure of having the right wire.

The instructions are clear, easy, etc.
All the wires are attached at the fuse box, and seperated into bundles
which correspond to the manual.
It's worth checking out...they advertise a lot in the monthly car
magazines.

Paul G.

Also, I have called there twice for info, and both times I was directly
connected with the fellow who designed the kit, so my questions were
answered immediately.
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:36:30 -0700
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Glove Box Door

I am not sure that a 56 has a button to open the glove box (I only have a 51
to look at and it does not) but this has worked for me on other trucks and
cars. Inspect the latch (hook on the glove box door) to see if its bent and
not making good contact with the catch in the glove box. To do this I put a
liberal amount cheap lipstick on the catch and close it. When you open it
there should be a mark on the latch where it starts to strike the catch on
the glove box. If its pretty far up the latch you're not getting sufficient
contact to keep it closed. To fix it I bend the latch up very carefully and
in minimal increments or bend the catch down which ever seems easier.

If it is not that then you may need a new spring in the glove box button. I
have never replaced one but I don't see why you couldn't if you're careful
taking it apart.

Another solution I have seen is to mount a magnet on the glove box opening
where it will contact the door not pretty but effective.
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:46:44 -0700
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - re: It's ALIVE!!!!!!!

Don glad to hear that Grover is running with the Y Block. Last night I
started the reverse and took the intake and left head of the 302. I
identified all the parts and manufacture dates what an odd assortment. I
understand now why though someone would put a 298 head on a 302. It's to
get a pre-Thermactor (read smog) head. Anyway I am ordering some catalogs
from PAW and Ford Motorsports Equipment to help make some decisions on how I
what to rebuild it. So my fun has just started.

William Vierra
Not quite so original 51-F1
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:44:47 -0700
From: "shawn"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings

> POR15 is also a water cured product as well. Once dried, the wetter it
gets
> the harder it gets.
>

For the application, would you sand blast the inner fenders to bare metal
and apply por 15
or do folks simply give the inner fenders a good hand sanding and then apply
this paint.
I am not looking for show quality, simply a clean look and good protection
against weather
and rust.
Also is there a good product out there for hard to reach rust areas, that
you can paint the rust
killer-stabilizer on that works well. I have heard of some products years
ago that claimed their
rust killer made the rusted area's workable metal again >;/ or stronger at
least.



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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:48:00 -0400
From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings

With POR-15, Correles or any other paint of it's kind, about the only thing
you need to do is take a wire brush and knock off all of the loose stuff and
make sure there is not much rust dust left and then paint it on.

If you have access to a sand blaster, I would probably do that first then
put the paint on. The cleaner you get the metal, the better the paint will
adhere. With this paint though, it doesn't really matter. It kind of thick
and will fill in all pores in the metal not allowing are to get to it,
hence, stopping the rust.

The other thing to use to neutralize rust is good old navel jelly.

- -Ted



>
>For the application, would you sand blast the inner fenders to bare metal
>and apply por 15
>or do folks simply give the inner fenders a good hand sanding and then
apply
>this paint.
>I am not looking for show quality, simply a clean look and good protection
>against weather
>and rust.
>Also is there a good product out there for hard to reach rust areas, that
>you can paint the rust
>killer-stabilizer on that works well. I have heard of some products years
>ago that claimed their
>rust killer made the rusted area's workable metal again >;/ or stronger at
>least.
>


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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:22:20 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates

The Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site has been updated:
http://www.ford-trucks.com

- -All sections of the pictorial have had new pictures
added.
- -1973-1979 Ammeter Diag article added to tech articles.
- -BBS reorganized (actually took place 3 days ago) for
easier navigation.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:42:05 EDT
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - updated pictures

Ken:
Any chance of having my updated pictures posted and having the old pictures
deleted? I gave you the updated pictures in Pigeon Forge just before the
group picture was taken.
Thanks

Tom Nickolson
52 F1
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 03:24:48 EDT
From: Ennui880 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 272 heads vs 292 heads

I'm new to the list, and I was wondering if anyone knew if the heads from a
272 Ford V-8 (from a 1956 truck) are interchangeable with the heads from a
292 V-8 (from a 1956 passenger car). My 272 engine block cracked
(right after a thousand bucks' worth of oil seals, bearings and cam plugs,
not to mention a new clutch) and I am going to drop a 292 into the truck
this week to replace it. Would like to know if most of the engine parts are
interchangeable, since everything on the 272 was new. And the 292 I just
bought....


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