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pre61-list-digest Sunday, July 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 203



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans
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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Comments For the New Guy
FTE Pre61 - Wiring
Re: FTE Pre61 - Wiring
FTE Pre61 - chrome
FTE Pre61 - The hood
Re: FTE Pre61 - The hood
FTE Pre61 - Hood Ornaments. Again.
FTE Pre61 - Great Powder Coating Source
Re: FTE Pre61 - Hood Ornaments. Again.
Re: FTE Pre61 - Wiring
FTE Pre61 - Re: Greetings
FTE Pre61 - 1952 V 8 firing order
Re: FTE Pre61 - 1952 V 8 firing order
FTE Pre61 - Re: POR-15
FTE Pre61 - It's ALIVE!!!!!!!

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:12:58 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Comments For the New Guy

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Welcome aboard, Shawn! As Ken has already said, this is the BEST spot
on the web for your Ford truck questions. We even have a club here, the
Association of Ford Truck Enthusiasts, of which I somehow became
President.
I have a '54 F250 myself, and I'll be glad to try to answer any
questions specific to that model. Abe Stauffer is another source, and a
better one than I, for that model. Steve Delanty is our resident
electronics and fabrication guru, and you should check out his articles
in the Tech section, one of which details 12 volt conversion. I
performed the operation myself using a Ford alternator and an instrument
panel voltage regulator to get the volts back down to 6 for the
instruments. I didn't do it Steve's way, so it's a little quirky, but
works.
As for the Ford small block conversion, it's fairly involved.
but kits are abundantly available through the aftermarket. My truck
still has the original type Y-block (get used to that term!) 239 cid V8.
That engine mounts at the front in the truck, whereas the later Ford
engines had mounts on the side, necessitating the conversion kit. I'd
recommend a C6 tranny for your truck, because they are easy to find and
bulletproof.
Any more questions?
By the way, everybody, after a FAR too long a time putting it
back together, Grover will start this weekend!!!!

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
inaccessible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:35:32 EDT
From: "Bill Casady"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Wiring

I've got a 1954 F250 with a 239 Y-Block. Have some wiring problems.
Let's say, just for discussion, that I have no wiring. Nada! I guess I
would need some very good sources for wiring harness. So, for a 12v system,
can anyone lead me to good sources for completely wiring my truck? Sources
could be: Vendors, reference sources, individuals, manuals, etc., [just
about anything]. Let's hear your recomendations, suggestions, and even your
war stories. Respond FTE or personal. Thanks for any and all help.



JustPlainBill
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:55:14 -0400
From: Thomas Teixeira
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Wiring

At 11:35 AM -0400 7/17/99, Bill Casady wrote:
> I've got a 1954 F250 with a 239 Y-Block. Have some wiring problems.
>Let's say, just for discussion, that I have no wiring. Nada! I guess I
>would need some very good sources for wiring harness. So, for a 12v system,
>can anyone lead me to good sources for completely wiring my truck? Sources
>could be: Vendors, reference sources, individuals, manuals, etc., [just
>about anything]. Let's hear your recomendations, suggestions, and even your
>war stories. Respond FTE or personal. Thanks for any and all help.

I'm sure that stock reproduction wiring harnesses are available, but I've
got a '35 and none of my catalogs have stuff past 1948 or so. You can also
get various 'generic' wiring kits from Painless, Ron Francis and I'm sure
others. There's no problem running 12 volts through the original 6V
harness, but you can't necessarily do the reverse since twice as much
current needs to flow at 6V to get the same amount of power as at 12V. On
the other hand, a stock harness may not have wires for things like electric
wipers, an electric fan or even turn signals (I know mine didn't, but 1954
may). You can add these to a stock harness fairly easily if you want.
Tom Teixeira mailto:tjt world.std.com
1935 Ford Pickup (flathead V8) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:48:47 -0500
From: norm l lasnier
Subject: FTE Pre61 - chrome

On the 53 f100, the strip that covers the gutter seam above the
windshield, is that chrome or stainless???? There is some paint on mine
and I hate to treat it like chrome if I can just take some 00 steel wool
to clean it up..
Thanks in advance
Norm nspk8046 juno.com

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:43:56 -0400
From: Fred g 454
Subject: FTE Pre61 - The hood

Hi Everyone,

I'm putting my '56 f-100 back together after almost
a year and a half of fiddling (HA!) Anyway, after
having pretty good success hanging most of the metal
I got to the hood. Now I know why guys do tilt front
ends, it's easier than trying to get the darned
thing to line up. To complicate things for myself
I'm trying a reverse tilt hood like I saw on three
trucks at Pidgeon Forge. But the problem would be
the same either way I suspect. The hood wants almost
quarter inch more room than the core support has to
give it. Read too tight against the cowl. The whole
front end needs to shift slightly to the driver side
to make the gaps even out. I see no side to side
adjustment. Some of you must have been through
this?? What am I missing? I'm ready to pull the
front clip and drill my own adjustment holes, is
this a bad idea?

Fred
Hotrod'56

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:26:25 EDT
From: Jeffben56 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - The hood

From what I've read in the repro shop manual I have and other sources, the
front end depends on the hood. The hood is fit to the cab (cowl), then the
fenders, etc are fitted to the hood. My '56 fit together well (whew!) and I
installed a reverse-tilt hood kit. Before, my hood closed and latched with
one hand. Now, it's easier. Installing the kit took about 1.5 hours with 2
people. Adjustments took about 3 hrs for proper fit. Still not perfect, but
better than many F-100's I've seen.
Try loosening the fenders, etc, and fitting the hood, then adjust everything
else--lots of work!

Jeff Thomas 56 F-100
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:20:58 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Hood Ornaments. Again.

I seem to have a fixation with wanting a hood ornament for my panel.
Of course, it would be nice to have an ornament which would have been
used in the contemporary era.
My survey of hood ornaments leads me no where, so....I was wondering if
anyone knew more than I do about the subject!

Shouldn't be hard,
Paul G.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:41:55 -0500
From: "Byron Rosbrugh"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Great Powder Coating Source

For those who need a great job on Powder Coating, contact RMI, Steve Rogers,
Olathe, KS a suburb of Kansas City, 913-829-3363. Very good and very cheap,
does both aluminum oxide blasting and coating. Max length is 25 feet, they
just finished my 56 F100 frame, inner fenders, chassis parts, it is
beautiful!! Byron Rosbrugh

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:46:10 -0500
From: "Byron Rosbrugh"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Hood Ornaments. Again.

Paul, whats the year of your truck? I have an ornament which comes from the
58, 59, 60 era, not sure but it is one with a long mounting piece which runs
lengthwise with hood, but has a round ford logo ornament attached about
halfway along the mount. What is it? Byron
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From: Paul
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 5:24 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Hood Ornaments. Again.


>I seem to have a fixation with wanting a hood ornament for my panel.
>Of course, it would be nice to have an ornament which would have been
>used in the contemporary era.
>My survey of hood ornaments leads me no where, so....I was wondering if
>anyone knew more than I do about the subject!
>
>Shouldn't be hard,
>Paul G.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:47:36 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Wiring

In a message dated 7/17/1999 11:40:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
plainbill hotmail.com writes:

> I've got a 1954 F250 with a 239 Y-Block. Have some wiring problems.
I bought a complete set of wiring for my '51 at Fords at Carlisle
this year, from "Wiring Harnesses from Tyree Harris." His prices were
uniformly cheaper than Dennis Carpenter (or DC Reproductions, or whatever his
name is these days). They are the correct stock colors and gauges, and he
threw in some black wire for my spotlight, and had all the Ford single and
double connectors. Several different sub-harnesses, each with a wiring
diagram. He had the directional signal harness as it would have been as an
option in '51. I'd prefer it in the main harness, but that's not the way
they were. No website that I know of, but he's at 14271 Boondock Lane (!),
Montpelier, VA 23192, 804-883-5200. Business card says Ford - Mercury Cars -
Trucks 1909-1959, Street Rods and other models.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:17:18 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Greetings

In a message dated 7/16/99 3:09:52 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


Subject: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

Greetings!

I just discovered this newsgroup pertaining to F100 pickups etc. Does this
newsgroup offer help and suggestions to new members?
The wife and i just purchased a 1954 F100 pickup, complete body and frame
etc but no motor, nor transmission. and we hope to
bring it back to life, and experianced owners are the best source of info

Thankyou.

Shawn... >>
Shawn,

Glad you've joined us. I found this site the same way you did about 2 yrs
ago. This has been the best place I have found for "down to earth" help.
Nobody knows like those who do. I have a 57. I did go the clip route and I
don't recommend it. I have a 5.0 with EFI Dan if you aren't an electrically
gifted person, what out for that (many wires!!!). There are some wiring kits
out there.

What has everybody used for their wiring harness? EFI or carb!

Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F-100 (by the way -- does your effie have a name?)
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:36:56 EDT
From: Albec99 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 1952 V 8 firing order

I just bought a 52 F3 and am trying to get it started before the manuals get
here does anyone know what the firing order is and which side the # 1 piston
is on?

Thanks Al
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:04:53 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 1952 V 8 firing order

Hi Al. Glad to see you have a 52 F-3. I have one also, a dually flatbed. The
the number one cylinder is the front passenger side. The firing order is
1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2.

Paul
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:22:05 EDT
From: FRD56F100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: POR-15

A note on using POR-15- be careful and not get it on your hands, it is
extremely hard to remove. I painted my truck frame, the inside of the
fenders and the underneath of the cab, didn't use any gloves. When I
finished, I had it all over my hands. I washed my hands with several types
of soaps, gas, thinner, hand cleaner, etc,. Nothing was completely
effective. It took me two or three days to finally get rid of it.

Joe
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:34:57 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - It's ALIVE!!!!!!!

I did it!! I got that 239 Y-block I've been messing with so long to
start and run today!! WOOHOO!!! It was getting dark by the time I got it
started, so adjusting the valves will have to wait, but by the sound of
that engine, I don't have much adjusting to do.
The megalopolis of Noth Middletown was treated to the sight of me
dancing around my truck tonight! They'll think it's some weird Ford
Truck Enthusiasts rite or something..... :-)
- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most....

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